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Rob Reiner Tells All About ‘Spinal Tap’ and the 2025 Sequel: ‘No Matter How Old You Are, If You Still Enjoy It, Do It’

His rereleased 1984 mock rockumentary is a top 10 hit in theaters this week. He previews September’s sequel, ‘Spinal Tap II: The End Continues,’ with Paul McCartney and Elton John


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“These go to 11.” “It’s such a fine line between stupid and … clever.” “Hello, Cleveland!”

The 1984 movie This Is Spinal Tap is jammed with so many iconic one-liners, it’s as if the characters have transcended the screen to walk among us. This Is Spinal Tap is credited with turbocharging a movie genre: the mockumentary, a documentary of a made-up subject for the sake of laughs. Now 41 years old, the film has been called by at least one magazine (Time Out) the best comedy of all time. Turns out, fans are still laughing. From July 5 to 17, the movie is being rereleased in over a thousand theaters around the country, in advance of the sequel, Spinal Tap II: The End Continues, which hits in September.

The band members — Nigel Tufnel (played by Christopher Guest, now 77), David St. Hubbins (Michael McKean, 77) and Derek Smalls (Harry Shearer, 81) — are all back, as is the film’s producer, director and costar, Rob Reiner, who plays the documentary filmmaker, Marty DiBergi).

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Rob Reiner in ‘This Is Spinal Tap’ (1984)
Courtesy Fathom Entertainment

Now 78, Reiner remains an entertainment biz stalwart, the son of legendary actor and director Carl Reiner. We got to know the younger Reiner as Meathead in All in the Family, and he later directed hit movies ranging from When Harry Met Sally... to Misery to Stand by Me. But This Is Spinal Tap remains, for many of his fans, his most memorable film, and its making has a story as good as what you see on-screen.

This Is Spinal Tap was unsuccessful when it first came out in 1984, right?

Reiner: People thought it was a real documentary. We were making fun of rock stars and documentaries. People didn’t understand it. We screened it in Dallas for the first time. People said to me, “Well, I don’t get this. Why would you make a movie about a band that nobody’s ever heard of? And one that’s this bad? Why don’t you make a movie about the Beatles or the Rolling Stones?” I tried to explain, “Well, it’s satire.”

How did Spinal Tap come about in the first place?

I starred in a TV show called The T.V. Show, back in the late ’70s. I introduced Spinal Tap for the first time, on that show. They did a performance called “Rock ’n’ Roll Nightmare.” You didn’t hear them in character. They just performed the song. When we were setting up, they started improvising these British characters. And I thought, Wow, we should do something with these guys. This could be great.

The story of how you got this movie made is a bit of a legend in Hollywood. What happened?

Harry [Shearer] and I had this idea to do a rock ’n’ roll tour — to make a movie from the band’s point of view. A company called Marble Arch gave me $60,000 to write a screenplay. We sat down to try to write it, and we couldn’t convey in screenplay form what this was going to be. Because it’s supposed to be, you know, documentary. You couldn’t write it that way.

I added another $25,000 of my own money, and the guys chipped in, and we made 20 minutes of backstage, interview and concert footage. I took it to the guy at Marble Arch and he said, “I hate this.” We had a can of 16 millimeter film, and we went from studio to studio with this can under our arms. And eventually we were able to get it made. It took four years, and it was pretty tough.

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‘This Is Spinal Tap’ (1984)
Courtesy Fathom Entertainment

Did you have any idea it would become this massive hit? Even the 2025 rerelease is a top 10 hit. How did that happen?

We had no idea! I mean, we made this little film, and it didn’t do very well. Then it came out on videotape, then DVD, and it got played over and over, and it became this cult classic. And then people started quoting it. It got put in the Library of Congress and in the National Film Registry. We got approached by rock stars all the time saying it’s a staple on their tour bus. The quote “This one goes to 11” is now in the Oxford English Dictionary, meaning something in excess. It’s part of the lexicon. I was blown away.

The dialogue in the film is improvised. But what about the music? Does the band Spinal Tap really know how to play?

Yes. Every single note of the music is them playing their instruments, recording, doing everything. They are all musicians. They can play. You know, if you strip away the lyrics, it’s pretty decent heavy metal music. The funny part is the lyrics. It’s kind of like the line “There’s such a fine line between stupid and clever.” Which is my favorite line in the movie, actually.

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Reiner at 75th annual Cannes film festival in 2022.
Andreas Rentz/Getty Images

Yes! That line describes the music itself. So why rerelease the movie after all of these years, in theaters?

We wanted to remind people about it, first of all. And if you go to the theater and watch it, you’ll see me as me at the beginning introducing it. And then, after the film is over, I come out as Marty DiBergi, my character, and I tease Spinal Tap II. And I show a little clip of Spinal Tap II.

The original film’s most famous line has to be “These go to 11.” How did that come about?

Yeah, well, that’s classic Spinal Tap. My favorite thing about that is Nigel [Spinal Tap’s lead guitarist] had this whole thing about his amp going to 11, and it’s one louder. I say to him, “I don’t understand. Why don’t you make 10 a little louder?” And it just goes up to 10. And he didn’t know what to say. You look at the film, and he’s just standing there. Then he finally says, “These go to 11.” It’s all improvised. You know? The whole film is improvised.

In the new movie, the band reunites for one final show, with surprise characters, notably Paul McCartney, 83, and Elton John, 78. Is the new movie meant to say anything specific about reinvention?

It basically says: No matter how old you are, if you can still do it and still enjoy doing it, then do it.

I asked Paul McCartney about this. I said, “There’s you, Mick Jagger, Elton John, and you still like to perform. What is it about you guys? Is it that you just love the music? And you love performing?” And he says, “Yeah. And the drugs.” [That’s a joke line in the new movie.]

The point is, these guys just love doing it. If they’re given an opportunity, they’ll get in front of an audience and play.

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