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I agree with you.
George W Bush is not the most admired. History will perhaps show more details of sinister things that went on. That is my personal openion. I tend not to be too critical because at this time we are so polarized, only listening to ideas that comes from our particular block.
In a way, people have lost their ability to think for themselves by assigning that job to some one else. It is a basic loss to the US culture and it is sad. Out sourcing does not have to be outside the country. It is just an act of assigning responsibility elsewhere. It is an act of complacency. In a conversation I can see that problem from a mile ahead. It shows as grouping, labeling, emotion and quotes of someone else's conclusions. It is made worse by jaded views and biased reporting that is made to appear fair.
As for war, I think it is OK to question the old big stick idea. If it is valid, the very first requirement has been glossed over. The stick holder must have moral strength, openness, sense of equanimity and common good. Without any of that the distinction between a common thug and a good person vanishes. Plus .. I never thought much of slogans like "I am the greatest". I have indicated that in an earlier post. I grew up with the motto "pride goes before a fall" and "there is strength in humility"
Response to RE: George Bush:
Das9, to the contrary, it is the American tradition to scrutinize, criticize and object to our leadership ("rebel" is the word our Declaration of Independence uses). That didn't even begin to happen under George43 until we were mired in wars of convenience and our nation driven to debt unheard of in the history of civilization. We compromised our principles again and again in the name of security because we were lied to about weapons of mass destruction and imminent danger.
George43 brags today that he approved torture. He is a war criminal and you can't sugarcoat that. As Benjamin Franklin said, "any nation who compromises their liberties in the name of security deserves neither."