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You make up what you want to make up. Illegal aliens are a detriment to our society. They break our hospitals and welfare. They use us for their own gains. They take our jobs and they gain a lot.
Illegal aliens gain by being paid wages that are better than where they come from. They send over $700 billion dollars of our money out of the country every year to other countries (sounds like what we do with oil money doesn't it?). Just this year $80 billion dollars was sent to Mexico alone. We need to stop paying for illegal aliens the same as we need to stop paying for foreign oil. We need to go green with illegal aliens and stop using them for work or anything else here except labor camps so they can pay for their own way back to their country. It costs us billions just to send them back home.
They violated our laws. Numerous laws. They have stolen the identity of American's causing untold hardship on those people and their families. They are draining our social security system, medical system and welfare system. They became criminal when they entered this country illegally. They actually became felons and all of them should be treated as felons. Start the stockades up again. Costs less than a prison.
They are responsible for over a trillion dollars of our current debt and responsible, in part, for our current recession.
They are criminals and should be treated as the criminals they are and so should anyone that hires them. What Madoff did is small compared to what illegal aliens do to the people and children of this country every day. What happened on wall street was also minimal to what illegal aliens cost us.
And what is keeping Mexican officials or others like them from putting their propaganda on this site? Nothing. And what you are saying is pure propaganda. Mexico is a dirty, filthy and corrupt place unless you go to a tourist place. I know a lot of people in the U.S. that have relatives in Mexico and I have been with them to their home town. They are here legally and they also do not like illegal aliens being here. They became U.S. citizens legally.
Lot of other countries are the same. No wonder their people want to leave and come here. But it puts a burden on our society and costs us billions every year. Billions our own children need. No wonder the Mexican embassy wants us to change and let their people come here and make them citizens. They cannot take care of their own people because of their own corruption. So now they want to corrupt our government and our society.
What Orozco says is his propaganda. He is so full of propaganda among other things. He should know illegal aliens are trying to get as much of our social security money as they can using illegal names and identity theft. The government should investigate him and tap his phones and then play it back to show what he is really doing. Maybe they already have, but we just don't get to hear it.
Social security is doing fine. It is the illegal aliens that are trying to drain it. Social security actually has trillions of dollars which illegal aliens are trying to get also.
Every day American citizens are going into bankruptcy because an illegal alien used their social security number and/or name. These illegal aliens should get life for this because what they did will affect the American person for life. Identity theft should be a life sentence and to help straighten out this mess we are in now it will need to become a law.
Illegal aliens account for the loss of between 12 and 20 million jobs American's could be doing. But instead those American's are unemployed. No wonder we have such a high unemployment rate. No wonder American's cannot find a job.
Illegal aliens were a crux to their own country and just came here to be a crux to American's. They serve no purpose except to live off of everyone and anyone they can and drain the economy. That is why other countries are glad they are here and want us to make them citizens so they won't go back. the other countries do not want them back, but they do want the money they send from our economy to the other countries economy. Same as the oil countries.
America would not be in as big a mess now if we had stopped illegal aliens from working here and secured our country. Illegal aliens are the 9/11 all people have not seen yet, but more people are becoming aware of every day.
Illegal aliens are like a leech. Costing the American taxpayer $700 billion dollars or more every year. Over the past 10 years over $7 trillion dollars. Enough to pay off our debt and have money left over.
So I take it you're a 100% Native American, with no 'damn fer'ner' blood mixed into your blood line down through the generations? Well, good for you!
Yes, there are illegal aliens who commit crimes, and incur medical and educational costs they don't contribute to paying for. The same could be said for a % of native-born Americans. The fact is, tho, these people you hate so much are not taking jobs away from Americans; they're doing jobs most Americans wont' do. And paying income and payroll taxes, through their withholdings, to boot. If they're making up invalid SSNs to be able to work, those withheld taxes still go to their destinations (Social Security, Medicare, IRS, whatever), but are not associated with specific accounts. If their made-up SSNs happen to match an existing SSN, they're either rejected as fraudulent & the would-be employee is caught, or the withholding is associated w/ the legitimate SSN owner's account(s). In neither case would the illegal worker be able to collect Social Security or qualify for Medicare, nor would most even try, for fear of being caught. As for identity theft, I think you'll find that most is committed by sophisticated, organized criminal elements, many of which are run from off-shore locations, not by the illegal applicants for low-wage jobs.
While they're here, they're also paying sales taxes on whatever they buy - even tho many do send money home to help support their families elsewhere, they still need food and clothing while they're here. (And if they didn't send the money home, the illegal alien problem would probably be that much worse!) If they acquire vehicles to make it to & from work, they're paying gas taxes. And if, heaven forbid, they're able to acquire any property, they pay real estate taxes. I suspect more than a few, like the rest of us, buy state lottery tickets from time to time, most of which revenue goes to things like education; and many attend church and make their weekly donations to support their community outreach programs.
All of which is not to say that there aren't problems associated with illegal immigration. There are, and they need to be dealt with. But in a thoughtful, rational way, not in a knee-**** "round 'em up & move 'em out" manner. Even if that were logistically and financially feasible, it would likely be inadvisable for our economy, as jobs at the lower end of the spectrum would go largely unfilled, even in today's tight economy.