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Just talked to someone who REALLY KNOWS about health care, drug companies and rebates. That someone is one of the premier hematologist in the nation and he said it like it is. If you force insurance and drug companies to operate at a margin less than their small profit margins now, you will destroy the health care system in America. This doc said that in his field we have made tremendous inroads against cancer and if Obama keeps up his personal wars against medicine, this drug research dies. He is already convinced that the federal government will takeover the entire health care system. Funny but this super hematolgist loves America and hates socialized medicine. He interned in the UK and told us, my husband and I, about how bad the health care system is there.
Funny thing is this doc is from Pakistan and loves America more than anyone I know. Shame on those ultra liberal Americans who want to make us a socialist state.
Also, FUNNY is the fact that all the Obamacare lovers have been proven wrong with everything they said when celebrating Obamacare after it was shoved down our throats by sleazy, closed door deals made by Obama, Reid and Pelosi. These ultra liberal voices were wrong about premiums, wrong about keeping our own insurance and doctors and now wrong about the actual timetable and everything else Obama, Reid and Pelosi promised.
Now, they say that the rebates paid to consumers will not be paid for by the insurance companies (MORE FREE STUFF). ha ha ha It ain't going to be insurance companies who work at low margins to begin with. Perhaps the federal government will just add these losses to their huge deficits and debt? We all know that the 50% who pay taxes can afford to bailout out Uncle Sam.
Posted by HUMBUG53
Of course does this doctor realize that health care in the United States costs on a per capita basis more than double what it costs in every other developed nation? Does it not bother this well educated and experienced doctor that the top executives of health insurance companies and HMOs make many times the money than an experienced physician? Does it not bother this doctor that in most medical practices almost 20% of their billings are written off as uncollectable because the patients either are uninsured and lack any ability to pay? Does it not bother this doctor that people in the United States die because they lack health insurance and thus cannot see a doctor until an illness has advanced to a critical stage?
The health care system in the United States is a broken system of government and private health insurance where there is no uniformity. The amount of waste in our health care system is amazing. Back in 1993 when the Clinton health care reform plan was being debated, it was revealed that in one hospital and medical system here in Cleveland Ohio employed more people to handle patient accounts and billings than the entire Canadian province of Ontario (Canada's most populous province) just across the lake. No doubt since that revelation was made that has worsened. A few years ago there was a report on ABC News about the waste and paperwork in health care because of the myriad of plans out there. They used the Duke University Medical Center in North Carolina as an example and reported that the Medical Center employed more people handling patient accounts and billing than they employed doctors and nurses who actually treat the patients.
I have a great repect and admiration for physicians. They have to sacrifice a lot to become a doctor. Then they have to put in long hours and be on call 24/7 for their patients. Plus they are required to be kept up to date in their practice all the time. So it is a never ending continuing education for doctors as well as a busy schedule.
In my career I have met and known many physicians, some world renowned specialists. But the responsibilities and requirements of just being a physician prevents many physicians from having a thorough understanding of how health insurance and the system in the United States actually works.
I have had the opportunity to know a physician who grew up and received her medical education in Canada. She practiced in Canada under their single payer system for many years before coming to Ohio to practice when she had an opportunity to become affiliated with the Cleveland Clinic. Her insights on the differences between practicing medicine in Canada under their single payer system and here in the states is unique.
The first thing she had to say was that her overhead was more than three times higher in the states than it was in Canada. Her practice group in Canada employed only one person to handle all patient accounts and billings. The practice group in the states (with three physicians) employed four people to handle patient accounts. In Canada, there was almost no uncompensated care and they knew how much and when they would be paid for their services since every billing went to the provincial authority for payment. She said that about 20% of their billings were written off as uncollectable.
Malpractice insurance was another big cost in the United States whie in Canada it is not a major expense. In Canada their tort system is "loser pays" and all cases of medical malpractice must be subject to an impartial medical review board to determine whether standard medical procedures were followed. Although not binding, the findings of the medical review board can be entered into evidence in the case. These nip any malpractice lawsuit without significant merit in the bud.
There is much that we can learn from health care practices that are being used in other nations. Based on actual health care outcomes such as infant mortality, life expectencies and other measures commonly used to compare health care among nations; the United States is below many third world countries. Not only do we have a terribly expensive system; but we are not getting the results that we are paying for. I am sure that your doctor friend is aware of that.
Posted by golfinsailor
Haven' t seen so much BS in a response in a long time. So the opinion of a Dr. is what we must all aceept as the truth of what is happening in the US.? What makes him credible and what makes his opinion so fantastic?
please, !!!!!!!!! The time has come that facts and not opinions need to be established, so, who cares what anyone says, once the ACA is up and running then and only then we will see its faults or lack of there of.