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No we shouldn't have shake downs when we go to banks, but I think surveillance in a bank is a good idea.
Every time we go to a bank or use a ATM at a bank we're on camera, there is bullet proof glass, perhaps guards, probably security features that are kept secret we don't know about.
Maybe we are not subjected to shake downs, but it's quite possible we're searched with a metal detector as we walk though the door.
The bank keeps a record of when you were there, a time stamp , what and how much the transaction was.
For the most part these features don't stop robberies, they prevent them.
Of course it would be hard to prove that, how can you quantify the number of robberies that didn't happen.
We just know that these things make bank robberies more difficult and if the robbery does take place incarceration for the criminal more likely.
As you point out over time the truth about things tends to come out, cases challenging overreach in government power wind their way though the courts and get resolved.
As I've said before I think the main issue here is a lack of trust in our government and a lack of faith in the system. I still have faith that the courts will resolve these issues in time, and until then we all ( including Snowden) should keep our angst and outrage within the limits of the law.
Posted by gruffstuff
True banks do have enhanced security systems. Our local banks require anyone entering to remove hats and sunglasses. But the tellers are behind regular counters,etc, where they can interact with the public, except for the drive-in windows. No doubt they have facial recognition software along with the video surveillance.
There does seem to be government overreach in many areas where perhaps they should back off, and again, there are areas where they should be more involved. But with all of this, it shows that an independent press or media is healthy for a democracy. I have a feeling all this NSA mess is just beginning to come out.