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In Response to Re: I don't trust the gob'ment to DO that!:
I have no doubt that in 1975 that was the case, but in the County that I worked and retired from in 2003 we were collecting 22-23 millions a month in child support, and that was a very steady nunmber. Many things have changed, and in the present, many of the women, are the ones that actually help in finding the fathers in order to pay child support. many remarry, and forget about the other children, not all are indigent, Most of the women are thrown into the welfare system because, the man stops paying child support. and not because they are indigent or don't work or have no money. That believe it or not. is the small minority.
Many things have changed and remember if they are jailed and come out on probation, or in the military, their probationary officer makes sure that they pay into the child suppor system, and in the military it taken as a wage assignment from their military checks, many things have changed since you were there.
Posted by rker321
No doubt that many things have changed since 1975 as far as collecting child support. DNA testing can establish paternity without a doubt and electronic records can enable the agency to track down absent fathers across state lines which was very difficult to do back in 1975. No doubt the system is far more effective and efficient than it was back then.
However no doubt there are a lot of things that have not changed much since 1975 as well. I'll bet that if you looked at the "father files" in most counties welfare cases, you would still see the same break down. Perhaps a third of the absent fathers are incarcerated and a smaller number have dropped off the face of the earth than in 1975. But I'll bet the farm that most fathers who have difficulty paying child support are poorly educated and barely make enough to support themselves. No doubt they move from one low wage job to another and probably a lot have a poor work ethic.
A boy who grows up in a home without any positive male influence is much more likely to become a man who has a poor work ethic and is much more likely to drop out of school. It is a shame that in many inner city neighborhoods, the life expectency of black males resembles that of some third world African nation. Since 1975, two generations have grown up in this system where the family structure is non existant.
It used to be that if a man died or deserted his family, there was often an uncle or grandfather who would step in and become a positive male influence on the children. But in so many families, there are no grandfathers or uncles available to step in and teach the children responsibility and a work ethic. For many young men, the neighborhood gang fills the role of the family.
What is needed are solid programs that work in restoring and shoring up the family in many low income areas. This country does not need phony moralizing by politicians, but an actual effort to restore family structure in low income areas.
Posted by golfinsailor
What you state will always exist no matter what governmnet we have and no matter which party is on top. All societies have poor people that for whatever the reason they don't get ahead, should we help those, of course, And yes, those programs need to exist to help those individuals that you have stated. But these programs need to become more and more efficient in their management, and don't create dependency. One thing that has been done in order not to have children that are born and paternity is not stablished, is that now, at birth, if the father at that time signs the birth certificate, his name will appear in the birth certificate and will be considered the legal father of that child, no DNA or a parternity court order is needed.