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In Response to RE: Judge Blocks Challenged Parts of Arizona Immigration Law by ANNIESWORKSHOP
No offense, but I absolutely don't agree with your comment of "Many illegals do pay income tax..."
However, let's presume FOR ARGUMENT SAKE, and I stress again, FOR ARGUMENT SAKE that you are correct. Basically, the only way that "…there is a fund that averages about 6 billion a year in taxes collected that are not connected to valid social security numbers…" is that the SSNs are invalid (faked). How SSNs are constructed are on the SSA website (http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html).
These would be associated with an employer that submitted the "income tax" by their employer tax id. The IRS should then check with the SSA, to validate the SSN (this could be done in just a few days, via BATCH mode). If the SSNs don't match a valid one issued by the SSA, the IRS should notify the INS and DOJ, and raid the business, based on probable cause that they have illegals "employed".
That being said, let me say that both my wife and I have talked about the AZ law, as well as other states, like OH that are/were considering similar laws. Since Uncle Sam (Federal) isn't doing their job, they are the ones that have hurt the economy by allowing illegals to take jobs from US citizens, or people that have entered the US legally.
I found several sources that estimated that the number of illegal immigrants in the USA in 2009 was about 10.8 million, up about 7 mullion from the 2000 census estimate. This accounts for about a 154% increase in 9 years, or about 17.11% a year increase.
Now I've said this other places, including on this board (AARP.ORG in general), and my view is simple; deport the illegal aliens, and shutdown any and all businesses that employ illegal aliens, and put the business owner/management in prison for 25 years, with no parole.
Now, before I get flamed, I must insure that the people here don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I have no problems with people coming into the USA LEGALLY, but I have a problem with them coming in ILLEGALLY and I say one more time ILLEGALLY.
When this was "discussed" in another forum (AARP took it down-but I have a PDF copy of it), and this person said "Oh come on friend, LIVE and LET LIVE! There is room for everyone and we need to be compassionate, this country was founded by immigrants and it's wonderful to have such diversity. Remember everything comes back, open your mind and your arms to all human beens, you will be happier, I promise you. Cheers!"
This person had the nerve to compare our fore fathers to ILLEGAL aliens, when there was no immigration law in place; in fact there wasn't even a constitution (yet).
One individual (not me) responded to this person's comment with: "compassionate yes- STUPID no!----illegal aliens ..... do you see the WORD ILLEGAL ??? I rest my case ILLEGAL not immigrants ILLEGAL!"
Another individual stated, "This country was founded by immigrants not illegal aliens"
Before someone thinks I'm blowing smoke, I have a saved PDF copy of the above post (it was on the "old" board).
Now with the current estimate of the United States population being about 310 million, some people might say that 10.6 million illegal aliens (about 3.4 percent) is nothing to worry about. But in a report I saw Dated Jan 2010, it stated that there were "…15.3 million unemployed workers in the United States …" So now, you see, depending on the job, you have 10.6 million illegal aliens that could displace UP TO the same number of unemployed, natural born, legal immigrants, etc; or about 69.28% of the people that really need the job to support their families.
Now, we know that the divorce rate is higher than years and years ago. But for this discussion, let's presume that there is a husband and wife, and only one works. So this means that there are possibility up to about 2.9 million children (stats say there are 1.89 children per family) that are going without what they need. Why? Illegal aliens taking jobs from citizens or legal immigrants.