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Share your fears about Social Security
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1) In the article, Social Security Fears , many Social Security myths are addressed. What concerns you the most about Social Security?
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 8, 2011 8:05 PM EST
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It seems that the federal government is using Social Secourity funds as a rainy day fund to disguise the size of the deficits.There is no Social Security Trust Fund. The revenues generated by the payroll tax simply go into the treasury , these funds are used for other purposes. The government, meanwhile, pays back to the imaginary trust fund moneys generated by tax revenue. This operation is completely circular and confusing. Most of all because we have an aging baby boom population; it is dangerous because taxes have to be increased to cover the number of payments to retired recipients. The oldest baby born in 1946 has become 65 this year.That person will start to receive benefits in the near future.An aging population along with an avalanche of baby boomers who want and need their benefits will necessitate tax increases on working America. The economy would have to grow at a very high rate to avoid these tax increases.When you increase taxes,businesses don't invest and grow which means we're back to that circular paradox -how do meet our obligations to the retired without destroying a strong economic environment. World class economists, I'm sure, do not have the answer. street15 |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 9, 2011 6:15 PM EST
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I retired in Septemberr 2010, collected SS all 2011 received a letter informing me of 3.6 percent increase, however my monthly benefit has decreased. The reason my benefit is calculated on my income of 2010, and not 2011. I would like to know if this is correct, is there anything I can do about thisl. I have worked and contriburted ad now when it is time to collect I am breing short changed, |
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Earth Leadership meeting
posted at December 11, 2011 5:00 AM EST
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Open Public Invitation Announcement
Earth Leadership meeting number one December 13, 2014 @ 1:00 PM EVERYONE from EARTH is INVITED to ATTEND! Santa Monica Library, Santa Monica, California Main Street & Santa Monica Blvd. cross streets Atrium next to Martin Luther King Jr. Auditorium Meeting to be held in courtyard back of library Dress code: all men in drag/women in uniform MEETING CONACT: Michael V Whitemiller, #1 Earth Leader, 310-382-4931*Inter Galactical Mastermind for Space, Earth, & Time* 1857 7th Street, unit F, Santa Monica, CA 90401 USA email contact: mythical_demythifier@yahoo.com
MEETING OBJECTIVE: TO OFFICALLY RELEASE EARTH LEADERSHIP DOCUMENT AND EXPLAIN PRIMARY PURPOSE OF EARTH LEADERSHIP TO A COMMUNITY IN AN OPEN FORUM BENEFITING ALL PEOPLE AND NATIONS OF OUR HUMANITY.
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Jim Toedtman Article-"The People Are leading the way
posted at December 11, 2011 11:35 AM EST
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i read this article this morning and as i read it I began to think, Gee, this guy is finally seeing things the way they are. He actually is seeing how the economy really works. Then I got to the last line. I guess he forgot what he wrote. The Tree step recipe is not compromise. simple Math. It is Common sense and compromise,, the hell we will. STOP ALL OF THE NONSENSE SPENDING.. Most Americans have. Tell the Democrats to get on board and join with the Republicans to get a budget, what kind of business puts off a budget for 3 or 4 years. Get one done and stick to it. No more unnecessary spending-PERIOD. Lower all of the taxes, keep your hands out of the Social Security Fund and start putting back what you STOLE from it. Come on Mr. Toedtman. Get these Liberals out of AARP and return it to what it used to be. I have 26 years in the real estate business and every time we get a little traction these idiots put something new out there and think they are helping. do me a favor and GO HOME. If we can't figure out by now that spending does ot work then please go home and see if you canreally function in the real world like we are forced to do. Not as lawyers and book writers, but as regular folks who work every day and come home to having to pay everyday bills. Folks who don't get and have a retirement plan that provides for almost a complete salary as we retire, and if we retire. Quit with the rhetoric already and do something. That sure would be refreshing, would it not? Oh and by the way-MERRY CHRISTMAS! Yes it really is Christmas. We celebrate the birth of Christ. it is a Christmas Tree and it is Christmas Season. Yes we have crosses and manger scenes and those of you who disagree, well God Bless you Too. Simply go to sleep for about 3 weeks and it will all be fine. |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 11, 2011 2:14 PM EST
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Let’s be realistic about SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Besides wanting the monies paid back to these funds from all the times congress borrowed from them, how can any politician make cuts or increases to these funds if they do not have a clear picture of these funds? Politician after politician state that these funds are antiquated and out of date as well as being ripped off. Politicians have their heads in the sand because if they didn't all the problems with SS and all the other funds would be fixed! And we as a country would not be wasting the monies. Please fix the problems with all the funds! Then hopefully the politicians have a complete picture of the funds and actually know where to increase funding or where to cut funding. Right now they are closing the gate after the horse is already out. Think about it for a minute, because when our forefathers founded this great nation there weren't that many people as well as services and the infrastructure we enjoy today. So since then all politicians have done was to add their personal political bureaucracy as well as special interest bureaucracy to all our bills and laws! So here we are at this point time, in a hole from all that weight and clutter. Besides if they don’t pay back the monies to these funds, the question AARP and all Americans should be asking is where is the monies? No one American can solve this problem, it will take all Americans. |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 11, 2011 6:19 PM EST
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First: November 27, 2011 Last: May 18, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security: Let’s be realistic about SS , Medicare and Medicaid. Besides wanting the monies paid back to these funds from all the times congress borrowed from them, how can any politician make cuts or increases to these funds if they do not have a clear picture of these funds? Politician after politician state that these funds are antiquated and out of date as well as being ripped off. Politicians have their heads in the sand because if they didn't all the problems with SS and all the other funds would be fixed! And we as a country would not be wasting the monies. Please fix the problems with all the funds! Then hopefully the politicians have a complete picture of the funds and actually know where to increase funding or where to cut funding. Right now they are closing the gate after the horse is already out. Think about it for a minute, because when our forefathers founded this great nation there weren't that many people as well as services and the infrastructure we enjoy today. So since then all politicians have done was to add their personal political bureaucracy as well as special interest bureaucracy to all our bills and laws! So here we are at this point time, in a hole from all that weight and clutter. Besides if they don’t pay back the monies to these funds, the question AARP and all Americans should be asking is where is the monies? No one American can solve this problem, it will take all Americans. Posted by LauraRep To correct you a bit, Laura - MEDICAID has always come from the General Fund - a charitable program shared by the Federal government and the States for those of all ages that need it and qualify. The monies that come from payroll deduction for SS and MEDICARE are used for these entitlement programs. "Entitlement" in this connotation meaning that those that receive it are entitled to the benefits by the law of the land. Funds are MEDICARE are pretty much used as they come in and it is in dire shape, especially certain parts of it, more than others. All of us pay into Part B for doctors and equipment - Congress tries to make up shortfalls by cutting doctor pay for services that we receive, which is a problem all its own. It is Part A of Medicare that is really having problems - the (HI) part of MEDICARE or Hospital Insurance portion. The reason is simple - as we get older, stuff happens but now we have lots of science and technology to help fix us. Those thing cost. Add to that the cost shift that hospital apply to cover the uninsured and we have escalating cost for everybody. Add to that also, the amount of money that is expended for end of life care when families want everything done for a dying loved one. So you see the cost of what we all want in our health care has escalated rapidly with these wants and needs. Funds that have been collected through the years for the so-call Social Security Trust Fund have been used to finance our national DEBT. So I guess you have to look at our willingness to get this debt under control as to whether or not Social Security will survive and thrive. It has always been just and INSURANCE to guard against extreme poverty; it was never designed to be a retirement plan. |
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a story told to me today by a disabled client
posted at December 15, 2011 1:10 AM EST
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http://sexology.wordpress.com/2011/12/15/practice-random-kindness/ Im a therapist in CA, this clients story told to me today is a perfect illustration of how many older/disabled persons can sometimes be mistreated bcs their disability or conditions are misunderstood, and bcs someone in a physicians office is not well trained.
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 15, 2011 11:27 AM EST
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In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security: In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security : To correct you a bit, Laura - MEDICAID has always come from the General Fund - a charitable program shared by the Federal government and the States for those of all ages that need it and qualify. The monies that come from payroll deduction for SS and MEDICARE are used for these entitlement programs. "Entitlement" in this connotation meaning that those that receive it are entitled to the benefits by the law of the land. Funds are MEDICARE are pretty much used as they come in and it is in dire shape, especially certain parts of it, more than others. All of us pay into Part B for doctors and equipment - Congress tries to make up shortfalls by cutting doctor pay for services that we receive, which is a problem all its own. It is Part A of Medicare that is really having problems - the (HI) part of MEDICARE or Hospital Insurance portion. The reason is simple - as we get older, stuff happens but now we have lots of science and technology to help fix us. Those thing cost. Add to that the cost shift that hospital apply to cover the uninsured and we have escalating cost for everybody. Add to that also, the amount of money that is expended for end of life care when families want everything done for a dying loved one. So you see the cost of what we all want in our health care has escalated rapidly with these wants and needs. Funds that have been collected through the years for the so-call Social Security Trust Fund have been used to finance our national DEBT. So I guess you have to look at our willingness to get this debt under control as to whether or not Social Security will survive and thrive. It has always been just and INSURANCE to guard against extreme poverty; it was never designed to be a retirement plan. Posted by GailL1 These Funds or Accounts were designed for a specific purpose not a piggy bank. Besides other funds that were borrowed against such as the military fund were always paid back in full? So are you stating that it was OK for the congress to borrow the monies from SS, Medicare and Medicaid as well as other funds/programs and not pay them back? You don't rob Peter to pay Paul do you? All politicians are guilty of doing this. Besides you talk about getting our debit under control which I am sure that every American and I agrees with that statement. But! Yes there is that word again. But why wasn't this done since the founding of this great nation? Why now after the all this time? The founding fathers plan was so simple like a simple Vanilla Sundae, but they forgot the most important fact, we are human. Of course we were not satisfied with a simple treat, so we got creative and here we are with a wasted gooey mess. Look at all valuable time we wasted, monies but most importantly lives that fought and died so All American could be part of the American dream not just a few. So either we correct all our problems with funds, programs and all other economic issues starting yesterday or the alternative is to continue on down this path. Here is a clue of what could happen. What happens when you corner and beat any hungry animal, I believe it tries to survive the best way it knows how. Now take into account it's human one of the most dangerous creatures to roam this planet. We can see this in the fact that law enforcement right now can only try to maintain the law not control it like when I was growing up. Personally I go for solving the problems and issues as well as getting rid of all those layer of political, special interest, personl interest bureauracy now! But that's just me! |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 15, 2011 8:35 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security: [QUOTESo are you stating that it was OK for the congress to borrow the monies from SS, Medicare and Medicaid as well as other funds/programs and not pay them back? Posted by LauraRep[/QUOTE] No, I am just telling you that MEDICAID is not part of Social Security or Medicare. MEDICAID has always come from our Income Taxes - Federal and State - to fulfil its obligations - there has never been a fund just for MEDICAID as differentiated from Social Security & Medicare. If you want the money to come back to Social Security then we had better start getting our countries debt under control cause right now that is what it is being used for - to fund our national debt. Medicare is another matter - those funds are used as soon as they come in for the purpose for which they are collected - problem is, the collections are not matching the outlay - so it is going broke FAST. So we either have to have more coming in OR we have to modify services or payment for services - OR maybe a little of both. It is actually Medicare Plan A that has the most problems - that the (HI) or Hospital Insurance part of Medicare. |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 19, 2011 3:50 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security: Will we ever see an increase in our Social Secuirty again to help the rising cost of living. Darlene Krake Posted by 19krake66 As a matter of fact there is a COLA increase in 2012. You should have received the notice of increase. But there could be an increase to Medicare Part B for some and Part D is a bit hinky. |
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