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Share your fears about Social Security
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Share your fears about Social Security
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1) In the article, Social Security Fears , many Social Security myths are addressed. What concerns you the most about Social Security?
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 19, 2011 5:59 PM EST
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First: December 19, 2011 Last: December 19, 2011 |
Social Seurity covers itself with a cost of living raise every year. The trouble is the Government borrowed the SS money and never paid it back. So we own a whole bunch of I.O.U.'s. We are still getting what we are suppose to get, the problem is the Government want's to borrow more fromm SS security and they will do this buy cutting our intitlement and using the savings as borrowing. The Government uses the SS fund as there debt calculation to look like the debt is not what it is. What we need is a complete break away from the Government with SS and we will have no problem. The Government can cure all there problems buy not giving away our money to other countries. There is approximately 152 countriies, the United states subsidizes over 100 countries. Stop this subsidizing and we will have no problems. If you find a candidate promising to stop all subsidizing, vote for him/her. Tom |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 20, 2011 1:18 AM EST
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Nothing to fear, except trying to figure the math?? For the past 2 years the basic medicare deduction from the monthly payment was $96.40. The medicare deduction for services was $155.00 & $162.00. Even though the medicare deduction for 2012 is $140.00. The basic medicare deduction from the monthly check is $99.90. By multiplying the additional $3.50 for 12 months is $42.00, and by adding that to the $140.00 The final calculation is $182.00.. Doesn't that look like a bait and switch? gclef6 |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 20, 2011 1:36 AM EST
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Nothing to fear, but for the past two years there were no increase in social security or medicare payments. Except for the medical services of $155.00 & $162.00. The basic deduction from the monthly check was $96.40. For 2012 the basic monthly deduction is $99.90, and medical services will be $140.00. By multiplying the difference of $3.50 for 12 months. The total of $42.00 added to the $140.00 now becomes $182.00. Doesn't that look like a bait and switch? gclef6 |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 22, 2011 1:30 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security: This is what happens when you have liberals in control. |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 22, 2011 1:37 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security: Because the Obama Tax Cut directly affects the money coming into social security, which the AARP is interestingly quiet about, no, no increase, expect a decrease. Just like ObamaCare took out $500 billion dollars from Medicare, we will be getting a lot less. Voting does have censequences. |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 23, 2011 4:10 AM EST
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at December 24, 2011 12:13 PM EST
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I just submitted my comments in the petition "to save Social Security." I found the petition to be disingenuous. It would not let me change my comment to other than "Save ..." I have very contrary views on Social Security. I am now a recipient and am dependent upon getting my monthly check from our beloved federal government, But, I still see the bankruptcy of having the U.S. Government involved in a retirement program, or any other insurance scheme. I do not see anywhere in the Constitution that such is authorized. In fact, I see that our whole American Experiment was to disentangle us from heavy handed government. Social Security is a PONZI scheme. We have been led to believe that it is for our benefit. Social Security has worked to co-opt a whole generation of people who might not otherwise support a larger, more-intrusive government. It has made us dependent upon others to continue to invest in this scheme so we can withdraw our investment, plus hopefully some net return. That is the definition of a Ponzi scheme. I have a former friend who is now in prison for running a private investment program where investors were promised a return as future investors made their contribution. Unfortunately, he diverted some of the funds to other causes and got caught. This sounds like exactly what Congress has done with the fund that once was to pay off the contributors to Social Security. To top it off, we have now stopped the requirement for new contributors to put into the system with the suspension of "Payroll Tax." We were told that Social Security was not a government welfare program, but an "Earned Benefit." If the program is to continue without more funds going into it, it will have to be funded from general revenue. If you may have noticed, we have already exhausted the general revenue. We are broke! Our all-wise, beloved federal government is giving away money it does not have. It has made us all dependent upon a morally and fiscally bankrupt system that cannot help but ultimately collapse. That is what comes of every Ponzi scheme, when new investors cease to put new money into what is no longer seen as a safe "investment!" |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at January 5, 2012 7:41 PM EST
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First: May 29, 2011 Last: March 29, 2013 |
My fear is that extremists will convince the electorate that privatizing social security is a good idea. Our healthcare was turned over to private hands and we have a medical system that can perform the most advanced surgeries in the world yet has one of the highest infant death rates in the industrialized world. |
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Re: Share your fears about Social Security
posted at January 6, 2012 3:14 PM EST
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Now that we got our 3.6%, or about $600.00 per year on average. Think about this...the people still working got a stimulus, from our Social Security Trust Fund, of about $1000.00 per year on average. They got more than us, but don't they always????. The government hates us seniors. We are, or at least will be, the economy. The government only worry about votes and kicking the can down the road. |
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