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Estimated Benefits set in stone or what?

posted at September 24, 2011 10:04 PM EDT
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Just a quick question regarding estimated benefits. I just turned 62 recently and eligible to receive social security benefits. My current social security statement has estimated amounts listed. My question is do these estimated amounts change from year to year? Like do they allow for cost of living increases or what about inflation. I do not need to take my benefits just yet but may, due to the value of the dollar because the dollar would be worth less in 4 years or even 8 years because of inflation. Would love to hear from other retired folks. Thanks! 

Re: Estimated Benefits set in stone or what?

posted at September 24, 2011 11:39 PM EDT
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Just a quick question regarding estimated benefits. I just turned 62 recently and eligible to receive social security benefits. My current social security statement has estimated amounts listed. My question is do these estimated amounts change from year to year? Like do they allow for cost of living increases or what about inflation. I do not need to take my benefits just yet but may, due to the value of the dollar because the dollar would be worth less in 4 years or even 8 years because of inflation. Would love to hear from other retired folks. Thanks! 
Posted by islandboystan


You can visit the Social Security website for more information.

http://www.ssa.gov/

Re: Estimated Benefits set in stone or what?

posted at October 5, 2011 12:32 PM EDT
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[QUOTE]Just a quick question regarding estimated benefits. I just turned 62 recently and eligible to receive social security benefits. My current social security statement has estimated amounts listed. My question is do these estimated amounts change from year to year? Like do they allow for cost of living increases or what about inflation. I do not need to take my benefits just yet but may, due to the value of the dollar because the dollar would be worth less in 4 years or even 8 years because of inflation. Would love to hear from other retired folks. Thanks! 
Posted by islandboystan[/QUOTE

If you were my brother, I would tell you not to even think about taking benefits at age 62. Your benefits will be reduced forever if you do that. Also, if you continue to work while collecting benefits, you can expect to be additionally penalized until you reach full retirement age. Forget about trying to figure out the value of the dollar and focus on your financial security and the need to protect your life style. 

My advice is to delay taking benefits as long as possible, since doing so will substantially increase your income at a time in your life when your ability to earn more money is significantly decreased.

I retired a few months before my full retirement age because I was so burnt out I was developing high blood pressure and other stress related illness. I am happy I continued to work as long as possible because it makes a huge difference in my retirement security. I am also happy I retired when I did because it improved my health.

The other thing I would recommend is to read, read, read at the social security web site, and call them to ask questions. It's a complicated set of rules, and different people are impacted in different ways.

Re: Estimated Benefits set in stone or what?

posted at December 12, 2011 7:47 PM EST
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First, benefits are adjusted annually for cost of living/inflation. Second, I suggest you speak with a financial planner as your suppositions regarding inflation and the value of the dollar may be overstated.

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In Response to Estimated Benefits set in stone or what? : You can visit the Social Security website for more information. http://www.ssa.gov/
Posted by cat0w

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posted at December 12, 2011 7:50 PM EST
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As a part of this question, do benefits for those on disability (SSDI) change when the recipient becomes eligible for retirement benefits? I heard they did?

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posted at December 12, 2011 8:36 PM EST
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As a part of this question, do benefits for those on disability (SSDI) change when the recipient becomes eligible for retirement benefits? I heard they did?
Posted by jboyd4


According to Social Security, the payment under SSDI becomes the SS benefit when a recipient reaches normal retirement age.

Re: Estimated Benefits set in stone or what?

posted at December 12, 2011 11:29 PM EST
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I unfortunately receive SSD benefits at age 56 due to a muscle disease, muscular dystropy.  I worked for 30 years.  Social Security has given a cost of living raise only a few times in the last 10 years, depends on the economy.  We have NOT received a cost of living raise in 2 years due to the economy, yet Medicare Part D has raised its monthly amount.  Medicare has not risen in the last 2 years, but in 2012 Medicare it going to cost alot more.  Currently it is a little less that $100.00 a month, and Medicare Part D is about $50.00 a month, depending on the plan you choose to enroll in.  So Medicare Part D has risen to about $50.00 a month and Medicare Part A & B is now about $100 a month and is going to go up quite a  bit, but as of now, whatever amount you are looking at for Social Security and retiring early at age 62, which you get quite a bit less than if you work until age 65, you can look at least $150.00 less taken out for Medicare Part A & B and Medicare Part D.  So look at what you think you are going to retire on at age 62, then deduct at least $150.00 from that for Medicare Part A & B and Medicare Part D.  Medicare part D rose quite a bit for 2012, looking at my information I just received.  And every year they adjust prescriptions into Tiers.  Generic Tiers used to all be Tier 1, cheap, but now Generic Tiers are Tier 2 and Tier 3, and the copays on Tier 3 is $38.00 a month for one prescription. In 2011 this certain prescription was a Tier 1 and cost $7.00 a month, now in 2012 it went to a Tier 3, and cost $38.00.  If you are like  me you are taking about 7 or 8 prescriptions.  One prescription for Levothroxin, for thyroid, over the counter full price is $13.00, but my plan put it into a Tier 2, and will cost me $8.00.  So those of you that think we get such a good deal on prescriptions, think again.  Just on that one prescription alone, I am saving $5.00.  So look at what your Social Security amount will be at age 62, then figure out the deductions, you have to enroll in a Medicare D plan.  And they will deduct Medicare A & B from your Social Security check.  What is so scary for me and my husband, is each year our prescriptions keep getting put into a higher Tier, and the copays for both of us are over $200.00 a month.  If you are healthy, not taking alot of prescriptions, and you want to retire at age 62, just remember the deductions that will be taken out of that check even before you get it.  They take Medicare out of your check before you even get it.  Even if you are healthy at age 62, look at me,,, I worked for 30 years and was never sick, then bam!!! You never know what will happen, and that is the thing I would look at very carefully if you want to retire at age 62 and do not have an IRA or pension plan from the company you are working for to supplement you Social Security.  I had no idea this could happen to me and did not have much in my IRA, which was spent on medical bills anyway.  If I had not gotten sick, I would work until age 65 and get more money, but it all depends if you will get a pension to supplement your Social Security if you retire early at 62, and if you have alot of money in savings, or stock (I would not trust my stock at all, I saw a special on TV where a couple in Florida were millionairs one day, and the next day they had NO MONEY due to the Madoff scheme).  There are alot of things to think about if you want to retire at age 62, depends on if your home is paid for, house insurance, car insurance, personal property taxes all have to be paid, and copays on medications, then the rest you have to live on, which is not much.  We ate so poorly for 5 years, until we got our home paid for finally, I am having to take prescription supplements like FOLBIC (Folic Acid, Vitamin B6 and B12-due to not eating alot of leafy greens), homosteine levels so high causes hardening of the arteries, we did not purchase much produce due to the high cost, no salads.  Depends on your expenses you have if you want to take the leap and retire at age 62, but hope I have given you alot to think about.  What you see to retire on for Social Security at age 62, is not what it will be once they deduct for Medicare Part A&B and Medicare Part D, which is mandatory to enroll in within 6 months of retiring.  And then you usually will want a Supplement for Social Security, since Medicare pays so little.  Regular Social Social Security Supplement Plans are under $200 a month, but since I am on SSD, my supplement went up to $400.00 a month several years ago, and I could no longer afford it, I had been Paying $250 a month from my check for a Supplement to Medicare.  So I hope I have given you some insight as to what you may have to prepare for if you want to retire early at age 62, if you have alot of money saved and your home is paid for, it might be easy for you to do.  For those unfortunate sould like me, totally unprepared to be so sick, and on SSD it is a curse!!
Posted by pattyasm


This post has a lot of inaccurate information about SSDI, MC A&B, and the costs.   Please read other articles written by professionals who deal with the system and have read the actual SS documents.  All of this is online, so you just have to search for it and take the trouble to read it.  I would note that SSDI pays the recipient substantially more than they would receive from SS retirement at the same age, and you cannot receive ANY retirement before age 62.  Also, if you are healthy and your family health history indicates you will live longer than average, you will want to wait until 66-70 if you can afford to wait, say, by working longer, reducing expenses, etc.  Illness and disability is a bad thing, but SSDI is a blessing, certainly not a curse....holy cow :-)

Re: Estimated Benefits set in stone or what?

posted at December 12, 2011 11:34 PM EST
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As a part of this question, do benefits for those on disability (SSDI) change when the recipient becomes eligible for retirement benefits? I heard they did?
Posted by jboyd4


They stay the same when you reach retirement age, but the fund the $ come from changes to the reitrement fund.  So SSDI recipients continue to receive more than if they had not been disabled and went on retirement based on their work record.  I do not understand why it works this way. 

Re: Estimated Benefits set in stone or what?

posted at December 13, 2011 7:53 AM EST
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Last: January 15, 2012
IEmbarassedn Response to Re: Estimated Benefits set in stone or what?:
In Response to Re: Estimated Benefits set in stone or what? : This post has a lot of inaccurate information about SSDI, MC A&B, and the costs.   Please read other articles written by professionals who deal with the system and have read the actual SS documents.  All of this is online, so you just have to search for it and take the trouble to read it.  I would note that SSDI pays the recipient substantially more than they would receive from SS retirement at the same age, and you cannot receive ANY retirement before age 62.  Also, if you are healthy and your family health history indicates you will live longer than average, you will want to wait until 66-70 if you can afford to wait, say, by working longer, reducing expenses, etc.  Illness and disability is a bad thing, but SSDI is a blessing, certainly not a curse....holy cow :-)
Posted by DMH66

i am not sure that the post has alot of inacurant information about SSDI, MC A&B AND THE COSTS, It is something I have had to live thru.  Medicare for 2012 did not go up much only about $3.00, but we had all heard it was going to go up quite a bit from what we had reaed.  Thankfully, it is did go up by only a few dollars, from $96.40 to $99.     I THINK THAT SS DISABILITY IS A BLESSING, IT IS A CURSE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SAVE UP MONEY BY WORKING, INSTEAD OF JUST RECEIVING WHAT I RECEIVE ON SSD.  I MADE TRIPLE THE AMOUNT WHEN WORKING THAN I RECEIVE ON SSD, THAT IS WHAT I MEANT AS A CURSE!  AND YES I HAVE CONTACTED SS TWICE AS TO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I TURN 65, REGULAR RETIREMENT AGE, AND  I HAVE BEEN TOLD TWICE BY THEM THAT I WILL NOT RECEIVE REGULAR SS BENEFITS  BUT WOULD CONTINUE THE AMOUNT I HAD BEEN RECEIVING ON SSDIT WOULD ONLY MAKE SENSE, YOU CANNOT WORK WHEN YOU ARE ON SSD, SO FOR 24 YEARS I WILL HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE WORKFORCE AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE WAGES TO INCREASE MY RETIREMENT FUND, HEY SO TO RECEIVE WHAT I WOULD HAVE RECEIVED AT RETIREMENT AGE AND NOT BEEN IN THE WORFORCE FOR SO LONG DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE, HENCE THE 2 PHONE CALLS I MADE TO SS, AND TINFORMED ME THAT I WOULD ONITNUE TO RECEIVE  THE SAME AMOUNT WHEN RETIREMENT AGE CAME UP AS I RECEIVED WHILE BEING ON SSD.EmbarassedEmbarassed

Re: Estimated Benefits set in stone or what?

posted at December 13, 2011 10:27 AM EST
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If you think about it, being on disability for 20 years, worked 30 years.  So the 20 years I could not work, I had no way to put in my earned wages.  Your SS amount you receive at retirement at 62 or 65 is based on the total amount of money you made, and the amount of FICA taxes withheld from your check.  I did payroll for 15 years.  People do not understand the FICA taxes withheld from your check.  Do not know what the percentage now taken out of a payroll check for FICA is, used to be 7.65%.  Your company you work for ALSO HAS TO MATCH YOUR FICA TAX!! MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THAT, UNLESS YOU DO PAYROLL!!!  Payroll taxes withhelf from your check have to be deposited to the bank in like 3 days after the date of your payroll check.  So your FICA TAX BEING WITHHELD FROM YOUR CHECK  IS ALSO CONTRIBUTED/MATCHED BY YOUR COMPANY THAT YOU WORK FOR.  THESE TAXES THAT ARE BEING WITHHELD FROM YOUR CHECK HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU WILL RECEIVE WHEN YOU RETIRE!!

RIGHT NOW IN CONGRESS THEY ARE WANTING TO LESSEN THE PAYROLL TAX AMOUNT WHICH IS THE FICA TAX, THE AMOUNT YOU PAY IN FOR SOCIAL SECURITY (AND THE AMOUNT THE COMPANY HAS TO MATCH ALSO).  HAS  BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS.  IF WOULD BE STUPID FOR OBAMA/CONGRESS TO LOWER THAT FICA TAX AMOUNT!!  REASON #1 IS THAT MONEY IS HELPING TO FUND THE CURRENT SOCIAL SECURITY FUND, AND HOPING THAT SOCIAL SECURITY SURVIVES, IT WILL HURT EVERY PERSON WORKING, BECAUSE THE LESS YOU CONTRIBUTE FROM YOUR FIC TAX, THE LESS AMOUNT YOU WILL RECEIVE FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.  SO THOSE OF YOU STILL WORKING NOW, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT TO DECREASE PAYROLL TAXES IS GOING TO HURT YOU IN THE LONG RUN!!!  IT JUST REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF SOCIAL SECURIT Y YOU WILL RECEIVE WHEN YOU RETIRE.  MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THAT THE AMOUNT OF FICA TAX WITHHELD FROM YOUR PAYROLL IS ALSO MATCHED BY THE COMPANY  YOU WORK FOR.  THE SENATE/OBAMA IS NOT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING PAYROLL TAXES.  IT IS ONLY GOING TO HURT YOU, THE WORKER, IN THE END!!Embarassed
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