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Re: Current Social Security COLA calculation is unfair

posted at December 27, 2012 9:29 PM EST
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First: March 19, 2012
Last: December 27, 2012
In Response to Re: Current Social Security COLA calculation is unfair:
Last I read, they did think that the chained-CPI formula was a more accurate measure for the overall measure.
Posted by GailL1


I really do not understand your reply.  Where did you read this?

The issue, I believe, is which of the CPI calculation methodologies is most accurate for those people receiving SS or SSI.  The evidence gathered by the BLS is that people over the age of 62 suffer an increase of cost of living at a greater rate than the general population. This would indicate that for SS/SSI recipients to "keep up" with inflation they should receive COLA increases greater than that derived using current urban aggregates or in the chained-cpi.  For many people this year's COLA of 1.7% will only offset Part B premiums.  The only one's able to pooh-pooh the importance of SS/SSI COLA's are those with other significant sources of income.

See http://www.bls.gov/opub/focus/volume2_number15/cpi_2_15.htm


Re: Current Social Security COLA calculation is unfair

posted at December 27, 2012 11:06 PM EST
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First: November 27, 2011
Last: May 18, 2013
In Response to Re: Current Social Security COLA calculation is unfair:
In Response to Re: Current Social Security COLA calculation is unfair : I really do not understand your reply.  Where did you read this? The issue, I believe, is which of the CPI calculation methodologies is most accurate for those people receiving SS or SSI.  The evidence gathered by the BLS is that people over the age of 62 suffer an increase of cost of living at a greater rate than the general population. This would indicate that for SS/SSI recipients to "keep up" with inflation they should receive COLA increases greater than that derived using current urban aggregates or in the chained-cpi.  For many people this year's COLA of 1.7% will only offset Part B premiums.  The only one's able to pooh-pooh the importance of SS/SSI COLA's are those with other significant sources of income. See http://www.bls.gov/opub/focus/volume2_number15/cpi_2_15.htm
Posted by creinsch


The BLS runs about 40 different CPI formulas - as your link pointed out, the CPI-E (based on older Americans) is experimental and has several flaws which the article points out.

Introducing the Chained Consurmer Price Index

BLS:  Frequently Asked Questions about the Chained Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (C-CPI-U)

FAQ # 5 says:  "The C-CPI-U, which in final form is said to be a "superlative" index, is designed to be a closer approximation to a cost-of-living index than other CPI measures."

I'm just quoting what the experts say about the research - Whatever method is used, it affects much more than just SS COLA.

However, seniors substitute all the time, within groups of items and from one expense to the other.  Most all Americans do this if we maintain a budget.  So whether it is medical expense or gasoline that makes for a tighter budget,  American have to adjust their budget.



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