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Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 2, 2012 4:18 PM EDT
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Dear brownstein11,
Your story reminded me of the words to that song," We only hurt the ones we love". Some pain just does not completely go away, and we live on , knowing another day may bring more pain. For you to understand what has brought on this behavior is made more difficult because you can not speak directly to the one who is sending messages of rejection to you. The channels of communication must be open for a healing to begin, and for you , this is not possible.
 Can you at least beging to accept it and live your life outside of this relationship with as much joy and love for yourself that you can find?
For some reason, there are those for whom this closing of a relationship means they have power and control over others. For this control to stop, the person they are seeking control over must cease to be hurt, and feel no more pain from the loss. This is not easy to do.
None of us is perfect, and we must allow our own errors, as well as those of the ones we love.
Please try to love yourself, and give yourself the best possible life, since you do deserve to be heppy, no matter who decides to shut you out.

Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 2, 2012 5:59 PM EDT
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Dear brownstein11, Your story reminded me of the words to that song," We only hurt the ones we love". Some pain just does not completely go away, and we live on , knowing another day may bring more pain. For you to understand what has brought on this behavior is made more difficult because you can not speak directly to the one who is sending messages of rejection to you. The channels of communication must be open for a healing to begin, and for you , this is not possible.  Can you at least beging to accept it and live your life outside of this relationship with as much joy and love for yourself that you can find? For some reason, there are those for whom this closing of a relationship means they have power and control over others. For this control to stop, the person they are seeking control over must cease to be hurt, and feel no more pain from the loss. This is not easy to do. None of us is perfect, and we must allow our own errors, as well as those of the ones we love. Please try to love yourself, and give yourself the best possible life, since you do deserve to be heppy, no matter who decides to shut you out.
Posted by BettyCM


The oddest thing about this whole thing while I was out of town is that my mom, invited my husband, Ron, to join them all for lunch while I was away. Of course, my husband did not go.  My husband did mention it to me when I returned, because I told him of the Facebook remark that Michele made. As of this date, about two weeks later, my mom still has not stated that she invited Ron to join them for lunch. So now I feel like something else is going on. My mom seems to be the one trying to put a "wedge" into this situation. 

Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 9, 2012 11:52 AM EDT
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I think its' better to leave it alone, don't get others involved. We have to resolve it within ourselves I always refer to Kahil Gabran, 'You're children are not your children they are lifes longing for ........". I went to college, had businesses, etc. But that feeling never goes away, then there are holidays, birthdays, and all of that crap. It is definitely a mind game. But, I am happy to know at least that they are healthy and work. I was estranged from my mother, as her and my father divorced, and my father hid us from her for many years. Eventually, I found her on the net and reestablished a relationship with her, Then Alzheimer's got her and I cared for her until she went to be with the Lord, two years ago. We really must put it in God's hands, because by ourselves we will go crazy, That is the main reason I have FaceBook, so that one day they may reach out to me, They were swayed by their dad and step-mom, it is so cruel to do that to anyone. But we all pay for what we do, I have been through 3 relationships and always encourage the relationship between my partner and their children, that means accepting the ex-wife, however uncomfortable that is. Maybe it is a way for us to share what we have learned and what not to do. thanks for letting me finally talk about this, on another post I mentioned that I don't have a large social network, but of the people I know 11 of them are estranged from their children. So that tells me that many others have hidden this information for many years. Tata for now.
Diane Helmer Ramos (Facebook)







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In Response to Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope? : Dear Geri5799, Do you know where she lives? I think it is a good idea to go through an intermediary, a cousin, or aunt, or friend, who knows both of you, and could just communicate your wish to talk to them. Of course, there are many ways to handle it, but, with emothions high, on both sides, a go between seems like a good idea. Is there anyone you could ask to contact her?
Posted by BettyCM

Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 10, 2012 2:35 PM EDT
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I think its' better to leave it alone, don't get others involved. We have to resolve it within ourselves I always refer to Kahil Gabran, 'You're children are not your children they are lifes longing for ........". I went to college, had businesses, etc. But that feeling never goes away, then there are holidays, birthdays, and all of that crap. It is definitely a mind game. But, I am happy to know at least that they are healthy and work. I was estranged from my mother, as her and my father divorced, and my father hid us from her for many years. Eventually, I found her on the net and reestablished a relationship with her, Then Alzheimer's got her and I cared for her until she went to be with the Lord, two years ago. We really must put it in God's hands, because by ourselves we will go crazy, That is the main reason I have FaceBook, so that one day they may reach out to me, They were swayed by their dad and step-mom, it is so cruel to do that to anyone. But we all pay for what we do, I have been through 3 relationships and always encourage the relationship between my partner and their children, that means accepting the ex-wife, however uncomfortable that is. Maybe it is a way for us to share what we have learned and what not to do. thanks for letting me finally talk about this, on another post I mentioned that I don't have a large social network, but of the people I know 11 of them are estranged from their children. So that tells me that many others have hidden this information for many years. Tata for now. Diane Helmer Ramos (Facebook) In Response to Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope? :
Posted by Fearby

Dear fearby,
You truly have honor, since you found your mother,and cared for her when she had alzheimers. That is a tremendous sacrifice, and you deserve credit for showing  love and affection that way. And, you have been able to encourage the exes to maintain their relationships, too. Yes, we all learn as we age, some better than others.
I hope you can continue to spread good feelings, and keep those who are estranged from their families close to you, since you must be a truly good friend to have.
All the best  to you!

Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 12, 2012 5:57 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope? : There is no instant magic for this kind of hurt. Mothers shouldn't lose their children. It feels so wrong, and can destroy your life if you allow it. Maybe just knowing you are not alone can help. It is so common, and it is rarely spoken about.    Here is an article from Huffington on Estrangement, and the Holidays:      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-cara-barker/dealing-with-estranged-fa_b_793450.html
Posted by BettyCM


It is so nice to know there are others with this issue, I no longer feel so alone, wish I had known this 20years ago, 30 and counting since I divorced their father, he had them with him, so of course, I turned out to be the monster. I just pray each day they should not go through this life carrying unecessary anger, it will destroy them, their step mother didn't encourage the relationship between my kids and myself. If one is in that the position, it may be uncomfortable, but why is it necessary to have an enemy in the other parent, it is so sad.
Diane Helmer

Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 12, 2012 5:58 PM EDT
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that really means alot to me thank you!
Diane





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Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 12, 2012 10:21 PM EDT
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that really means alot to me thank you! Diane I
Posted by Fearby

The real heroes, like those who care for alzheimer victims, go almost unnoticed. You do deserve credit for doing the right thing, and showing love and affection, even if you did not get it for yourself. That kind of selflessness is what makes this world a better place!
Please let us know how you are doing .
Keep in touch. You are certainly not alone, as you have already noted.
BettyCM

Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 12, 2012 10:28 PM EDT
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The day before Mother's day my oldest daughter ( 54) e-mailed the article with no comment.  Although things have been rocky between us for 4 years I thought that in the last year when she began to include me in her life and that of her 16 year old daughter (I was my daughter's coach at the birth of her daughter and I cannot even speak of the pain I feel at the loss of my granddaughter). I spent three years apologizing for every sin I might have committed and assured her that I had always loved her and had never meant to hurt her.  She never really told me why she had been so mad at me but I accepted all responsibility and did everything I could think of to make amends,  Then totally out of the blue she e-mailed me this article on the day before Mother's Day.  Frankly I don't know why I am still alive. After days of pain and grief I e-mailed her that we are officially divorced I can no longer take this "on-again off-again" relationship which has come at a time when I had to give up my career as a lawyer Because of Parkinson's. I had simply reached my level of tolerance of pain. My last e-mail to her stated, "I will no longer apologize for anything.  I gave you (and your siblings) the greatest gift of all Life,  Without me you wouldn't exist."
Dear elizabeth4,
You are not alone in apologizing profusely, only to be rejected again. It becomes a pattern that is difficult to overcome. You did the right thing to say, "enough" , I am only human. Humans all make mistakes, and our mistakes are not because we want to cause pain, but, only because we are human. We deserve to be respected, and appreciated. If the other party refuses to do that, then we have to show respect for ourselves! No, this is not easy, but, very hard.
I , too, have apologized all I could, and still do not see my loved one. Most days, I just want to know if she is OK. Sometimes I want to see her face again, just once.  But, I refuse to let it destroy the rest of my life. We must insist on making our life the best possible! What other option is there? We must go on, and enjoy our lives as fully as possible.
Posted by elizabethh4

Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 15, 2012 11:24 AM EDT
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I am bothered by the risidual effects of anger on my sons, I do not know why they do not talk to me, for 20 years, other than they were brainwashed by their dad, his wife, and his family. I am pretty sure it is too late, but I do not want them to go through this life carrying unecessary anger. How many of us do you think there are? For myself, I stopped talking about it years ago, it would be interesting to know. Also, if you are a person that keeps the children away from their parents, shame on you. That is very controlling and hurtful.
Diane Ramos\\

Re: Estranged Family Members- How Do You Cope?

posted at June 15, 2012 5:49 PM EDT
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Dear fearby,
There are certainly many others with the issue of estrangement as a nagging reality of their lives. It is not easy to admit, and if you are speaking to someone who  has not had this experience, it is not easy to make them understand. You mentioned divorce, and the separation of a family, and this is certainly one of the key factors which lead to this type of anger. You are so right, that the anger is huurtful to those who carry it. We can only hope that they learn to let go of it, and to forgive, if not for the person they harbor anger toward, but, for their own emotional health.
 It is a taboo, still, to have a broken family, and we have not learned as a society how to handle divorce in such a way that these feelings are dealt with openly, and toward good relationships for the future.
I have often thought that our divorce courts have some blame in this, and that it might be better if instead of courts for divorce, we relied on counselors, mediators, and others who can handle the emotions. The courts are by nature adversarial, and the cost of divorce is outrageous. It may be less expensive if we used mediators, too.

Good luck with this. Is it possible for you to write out what you want for your sons? Even if you don't mail it, it might be good to have , in writing, how you feel about them, and what you hoped to be to their lives. Just a suggestion.

BettyCM
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