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My 94 year old father, living in a nursing home for the past 16 months, has had an ongoing UTI.&nbsp; He was treated with several rounds of antibiotics which, we were told, didn't completely cure the
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Is hosice care for the elderly a scam?

posted at October 18, 2012 1:09 PM EDT
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First: April 4, 2008
Last: October 18, 2012

My 94 year old father, living in a nursing home for the past 16 months, has had an ongoing UTI.  He was treated with several rounds of antibiotics which, we were told, didn't completely cure the UTI.  That was about 4 weeks ago.  He had a couple bad days since where he had a fever, chills and seemed confused, but started doing much better. 
He decided after the last round of antibiotics that he no longer wanted anymore done from this point on.  No more meds...nothing.  We signed all the papers and accepted his decision.  Last week we were called because the nursing home staff said it's time to put hospice into place.  They felt he had less than 6 months to live.  My dad said that at 94 he doesn't think he has much more than that anyway...at least that's what he is hoping.  Anyway, we signed all the papers and now he is "in hospice care".  Doesn't have to leave his room, it's all done right there.  He is doing just fine.  Eats, drinks, sleeps, watches tv, visits with people, feels great and says he has no pain.  In the past week the "hospice staff" have visited him a few more times per day, and gave him Tylenol for his aching legs.  His legs have always ached.
My question is, am I nuts? 
Wasn't starting hospice care jumping the gun a bit?  I'm starting to get the vibe that since his health insurance covers the hospice care, they figured "why not"!  I've asked several times what exactly is the status of his health.  Does he still have a UTI?  Is it still in his blood?  And I've never gotten an answer.  All I get is "the nurse isn't available right now", "we'll have to get back to you on that one".  To me this is a perfect example of why our health care costs are so out of control. 

Re: Is hosice care for the elderly a scam?

posted at October 18, 2012 2:40 PM EDT
Posts: 1924
First: November 27, 2011
Last: May 31, 2013
In Response to Is hosice care for the elderly a scam?:
My 94 year old father, living in a nursing home for the past 16 months, has had an ongoing UTI.  He was treated with several rounds of antibiotics which, we were told, didn't completely cure the UTI.  That was about 4 weeks ago.  He had a couple bad days since where he had a fever, chills and seemed confused, but started doing much better.  He decided after the last round of antibiotics that he no longer wanted anymore done from this point on.  No more meds...nothing.  We signed all the papers and accepted his decision.  Last week we were called because the nursing home staff said it's time to put hospice into place.  They felt he had less than 6 months to live.  My dad said that at 94 he doesn't think he has much more than that anyway...at least that's what he is hoping.  Anyway, we signed all the papers and now he is "in hospice care".  Doesn't have to leave his room, it's all done right there.  He is doing just fine.  Eats, drinks, sleeps, watches tv, visits with people, feels great and says he has no pain.  In the past week the "hospice staff" have visited him a few more times per day, and gave him Tylenol for his aching legs.  His legs have always ached. My question is, am I nuts?  Wasn't starting hospice care jumping the gun a bit?  I'm starting to get the vibe that since his health insurance covers the hospice care, they figured "why not"!  I've asked several times what exactly is the status of his health.  Does he still have a UTI?  Is it still in his blood?  And I've never gotten an answer.  All I get is "the nurse isn't available right now", "we'll have to get back to you on that one".  To me this is a perfect example of why our health care costs are so out of control. 
Posted by Agingdiscoqueen


Hospice care definitely is appropriate if that is where he is in life.  It helps to make the transition much more easier for the person and the family.

Medicare is the payer of hospice if they are on the program and Medicare will review the case after 90 days.  Then will again and again ever 90 days, I believe, since no one can pin point the actual time of death.

I'm sure you read all the paperwork that you signed for hospice care especially the "rights" part.
You can always ask the doctor that signed off on the hospice care why he was placed on it or the assigned nurse.  Sometimes it might not be very apparent especially in the very aged - heart arrythmias. conjestive heart failure, kidney failure, etc. 

Hospice may start doing more as time progresses - they have actually (4) different devisions - (1)  care giving (2) spiritual (3) social work (4) health care

This Medicare pamplet will help you:
Medicare HOSPICE Benefit

Re: Is hosice care for the elderly a scam?

posted at October 22, 2012 8:43 PM EDT
Posts: 2
First: October 22, 2012
Last: October 22, 2012
if its done right it is a very good thing, very helpful to both the patient and the family, helps you both through a very difficult time. my first fiance was in hospice.. and i founld it very helpful....Ive seen others in it also ...its been good.

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