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Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?
posted at November 18, 2012 7:40 PM EST
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Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?
posted at November 19, 2012 8:55 AM EST
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In Response to Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?: Have you talked with your parents yet about end-of-life wishes, wills, finances, etc.? If you did, how did it go? Do you feel like everyone's in a better place now or did your parents get upset? It's something I need to do but am apprehensive about doing it... Posted by GenaW I did have the conversation with my mother and at first she resisted, but then started to feed me little snippets over the next year that I noted. This helped her feel comfortable knowing I understood her wishes. But even with the snippets received I had to push hard to clarify and/or understand what they really meant. It's never easy having these types of conversation, but it does help tremendously. My mom moved on several years ago, but I know she went the way she wanted and not the way her 5 kids would have allowed things to play out. |
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Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?
posted at December 11, 2012 1:49 AM EST
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In Response to Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?: I have been close to my mom all my life,52. we have laught, yelled, traveled together, and talked about evrything. She had said years ago, she did not want to be the last sibling, of 4. She is now. I took he r to her sister who was dieing, and almost had to drag her there. Now as she is hospitalised, the doctor asked her about dnr. Here resssponce was, I feel like i have lived a good life and am ready to go. I cryed at first but then understud that this is just the next step we all take, I hope I do it with such dignoty. she is 85 and not much of a positive person. She is not suisidal but tierd. I think I understand her fellings. just time to let go and be at peace. I hope she lasts longer just no pain.we all die, whos to say when is old enough. ill miss mom, but happyness for her on her journy. jim] |
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Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?
posted at December 29, 2012 3:07 PM EST
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Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?
posted at December 30, 2012 11:16 AM EST
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First: November 27, 2011 Last: May 18, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?: My father is 95, my mother 88. My dad can hardly walk. My mother falls in the house. They live in their own home without any outside help. When there are problems, I get the call. I'm there almost every day. I've tried to talk them into moving into assisted living. My mother will not hear of it. I've tried to talk to them about pre-arranging funerals. My mother said no, that it will be my task to do. When I'm there, she cries saying it's hell getting old. Yet she won't take any advice from me on making their lives better. She is very stubborn! I'm at my wits end. Any suggestions? Posted by GREGR5 Either they are making it on their own or they are not. That goes for keeping up the house, the household and their daily care, including nurishment and personal care. When the safety & expense of maintaing her lifestyle got to be too much for my mother and I could not keep up her life as well as my own, I took her to see some senior living places that were suitable to her physical levels at the time then I had to tell her there was no other way. It required some adjustment but had to be done. You have to be the one that measures how they are doing and what changes they will and will not accept or how willing you are to force the measure. Could they manage well having someone come to their home to help rather than move? Are they ready for assisted living or would an independent senior living facility be better. Do they have funds for assisted living? Their financial situation is a big part of the decision too. |
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Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?
posted at January 3, 2013 6:28 PM EST
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n Response to Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?: Have you talked with your parents yet about end-of-life wishes, wills, finances, etc.? If you did, how did it go? Do you feel like everyone's in a better place now or did your parents get upset? It's something I need to do but am apprehensive about doing it... Posted by GenaW Mom is now 94, going on 3. I've been caring for her since 1994. She remains in her own home with the respect and dignity that all elders should have. Over the years I have established all of her advanced directives with her blessing: DNR, DNI, Health Care Proxy, Living Will, Last Will & Testament, Revocable Living Trust (to protect her proerty), Durable Power of Attorney, and Prepaid Funeral Arrangements. We also have joint checking and credit card accounts because I now handle all of her affairs, including taxes. This was not an easy task and it didn't happen at once. It took about 6 years to get it all done. Here's how it began - we were speaking about the life everafter, or eternal rest. I read the Bible to her and we discussed what will happen when she dies. I know, probably most people would not be able to handle that. It's so important, so please have the pastor or cleric do this if you cannot. Anyway, then I was able to get her Living Will, Last Will, and Revocable Living Trust done. Next topic we discussed was - in the event she's in the hospital for a long time, who will pay the bills? That's how I got the durable power of attorney, checking account and joint credit card. The DNR, DNI (which is Do Not Intubate) and Burial arrangements were completed after I went to a friends funeral where everything had been mishandled or just plain ignered. The fighting was terrible. I came home and insisted that we take care of those details. Everything has been done through an Elder Attorney, so I know it's legal and correct. I've never been questioned upon producing documents to banks or hospitals. Sorry for the lengthy response, but I hope this helps all who read it. Someone has to take care of our aging loved ones, and that should be family. |
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Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?
posted at January 3, 2013 10:41 PM EST
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First: January 3, 2013 Last: January 3, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?: n Response to Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents? : Mom is now 94, going on 3. I've been caring for her since 1994. She remains in her own home with the respect and dignity that all elders should have. Over the years I have established all of her advanced directives with her blessing: DNR, DNI, Health Care Proxy, Living Will, Last Will & Testament, Revocable Living Trust (to protect her proerty), Durable Power of Attorney, and Prepaid Funeral Arrangements. We also have joint checking and credit card accounts because I now handle all of her affairs, including taxes. This was not an easy task and it didn't happen at once. It took about 6 years to get it all done. Here's how it began - we were speaking about the life everafter, or eternal rest. I read the Bible to her and we discussed what will happen when she dies. I know, probably most people would not be able to handle that. It's so important, so please have the pastor or cleric do this if you cannot. Anyway, then I was able to get her Living Will, Last Will, and Revocable Living Trust done. Next topic we discussed was - in the event she's in the hospital for a long time, who will pay the bills? That's how I got the durable power of attorney, checking account and joint credit card. The DNR, DNI (which is Do Not Intubate) and Burial arrangements were completed after I went to a friends funeral where everything had been mishandled or just plain ignered. The fighting was terrible. I came home and insisted that we take care of those details. Everything has been done through an Elder Attorney, so I know it's legal and correct. I've never been questioned upon producing documents to banks or hospitals. Sorry for the lengthy response, but I hope this helps all who read it. Someone has to take care of our aging loved ones, and that should be family. Posted by freespiritgal |
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Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?
posted at January 14, 2013 4:39 PM EST
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First: January 14, 2013 Last: January 16, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?: My father is 95, my mother 88. My dad can hardly walk. My mother falls in the house. They live in their own home without any outside help. When there are problems, I get the call. I'm there almost every day. I've tried to talk them into moving into assisted living. My mother will not hear of it. I've tried to talk to them about pre-arranging funerals. My mother said no, that it will be my task to do. When I'm there, she cries saying it's hell getting old. Yet she won't take any advice from me on making their lives better. She is very stubborn! I'm at my wits end. Any suggestions? Posted by GREGR5 Hi GregR5 and anyone else..... I live in complete frustration with these people that used to be my parents. People say "oh, you're so lucky to have your parents". Really? these people are not my parents. They are aliens that have moved into their bodies. All of my siblings live far enough away that they are my responsibility, which is fine, but I would love to know how you or anyone else deals with that attitude that they have all developed. I finally got my mom so mad she admitted that she doesn't want anyone to tell her what to do. I try to do things for them to make life easier and her standard answer is "did I ask for that?" It is very evident that we are never going to be able to convince them to do anything. I had a therapist tell me several years ago, that it is THEIR life. Which is true, and I guess it really doesn't matter to them that they eat out of date food, food with freezer burn, etc., etc. and even if it does bother them, they will never tell us. My dad is 91 and my mom is 90. He is definately doing better than her, but they are both becoming frail. They also won't go for anyone to come in to cook, clean the house or anything. One lady told me that she was able to take her mom to the doctor. They won't even let me do that. If they did, possibly the doctor could help convince them, but my parents' doctor doesn't care enough to say anything. And really most doctors think that these 90 year old people must be being brought by one of their kids. ---WRONG. I will keep an eye on this string to see if anyone can help both of us. If anything, it's nice to know that you are not the only one dealing with aliens on a regular basis.
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Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?
posted at January 15, 2013 4:37 PM EST
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First: November 27, 2011 Last: May 18, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?: In Response to Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents? : Hi GregR5 and anyone else..... I live in complete frustration with these people that used to be my parents. People say "oh, you're so lucky to have your parents". Really? these people are not my parents. They are aliens that have moved into their bodies. All of my siblings live far enough away that they are my responsibility, which is fine, but I would love to know how you or anyone else deals with that attitude that they have all developed. I finally got my mom so mad she admitted that she doesn't want anyone to tell her what to do. I try to do things for them to make life easier and her standard answer is "did I ask for that?" It is very evident that we are never going to be able to convince them to do anything. I had a therapist tell me several years ago, that it is THEIR life. Which is true, and I guess it really doesn't matter to them that they eat out of date food, food with freezer burn, etc., etc. and even if it does bother them, they will never tell us. My dad is 91 and my mom is 90. He is definately doing better than her, but they are both becoming frail. They also won't go for anyone to come in to cook, clean the house or anything. One lady told me that she was able to take her mom to the doctor. They won't even let me do that. If they did, possibly the doctor could help convince them, but my parents' doctor doesn't care enough to say anything. And really most doctors think that these 90 year old people must be being brought by one of their kids. ---WRONG. I will keep an eye on this string to see if anyone can help both of us. If anything, it's nice to know that you are not the only one dealing with aliens on a regular basis. Posted by reneecavell The thing is, renee, you have to be there when they need you. So the ticket is to be prepared - do your research so that you can get things rolling fast. Call the local aging dept just to find out what things might be available for them when they might be in need. What about the meals on wheels program? Would they be open to that possibility . . . . . it is not just a meals program because the volunteer that delivers the meals can at least make sure they are doing OK from day to day (5) days a week. There are also other living arrangements that can be made - some may have waiting list. Try to know their income and financials if possible. How do they get around . . . . do they ( or one, at least) still drive or do they take public transportation? You can also check into "Guardianship" just to familiarize yourself with the legal aspect of what you may have to do, if and when they cannot look after themselves. Just become knowledgeable and wait until they need whatever help. As long as their mind is still good, and you haven't been given any legal authority to take over, that is just about all you can do in a big way. Perhaps get all the kids together for an "intervention". Who do they call now if they need help with something they cannot do? I have been to homes where there were few light because the bulbs had burned out and the elders just didn't call anybody to come change out the burned out bulb. I've seen other homes where the major maintenance was not kept up and big stuff started causing problems - roofs, HVAC, leaks of water and air around windows, rats, ants, bug infestation. Overgrown yards, dangerous trees overhanging the house, etc. Now if they live in an apartment, perhaps a change to something more condusive to advanced age seniors would be to their liking but still independent (to a certain degree). Who are their friends and how these friends handing the aging situation? Sometimes knowing this can give you an ally and perhaps some suggestions as to what they would accept. If you suspect that dementia or something worse in taking place, you need to act because you never know when they might forget to turn off the stove or leave something cooking for too long. Dementia manifest itself in many different ways. Good Luck. |
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Re: The older they get, the more stubborn
posted at January 16, 2013 9:59 AM EST
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First: January 14, 2013 Last: January 16, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents?: In Response to Re: Has anyone had "the talk" with their parents? : The thing is, renee, you have to be there when they need you. So the ticket is to be prepared - do your research so that you can get things rolling fast. Call the local aging dept just to find out what things might be available for them when they might be in need. What about the meals on wheels program? Would they be open to that possibility . . . . . it is not just a meals program because the volunteer that delivers the meals can at least make sure they are doing OK from day to day (5) days a week. There are also other living arrangements that can be made - some may have waiting list. Try to know their income and financials if possible. How do they get around . . . . do they ( or one, at least) still drive or do they take public transportation? You can also check into "Guardianship" just to familiarize yourself with the legal aspect of what you may have to do, if and when they cannot look after themselves. Just become knowledgeable and wait until they need whatever help. As long as their mind is still good, and you haven't been given any legal authority to take over, that is just about all you can do in a big way. Perhaps get all the kids together for an "intervention". Who do they call now if they need help with something they cannot do? I have been to homes where there were few light because the bulbs had burned out and the elders just didn't call anybody to come change out the burned out bulb. I've seen other homes where the major maintenance was not kept up and big stuff started causing problems - roofs, HVAC, leaks of water and air around windows, rats, ants, bug infestation. Overgrown yards, dangerous trees overhanging the house, etc. Now if they live in an apartment, perhaps a change to something more condusive to advanced age seniors would be to their liking but still independent (to a certain degree). Who are their friends and how these friends handing the aging situation? Sometimes knowing this can give you an ally and perhaps some suggestions as to what they would accept. If you suspect that dementia or something worse in taking place, you need to act because you never know when they might forget to turn off the stove or leave something cooking for too long. Dementia manifest itself in many different ways. Good Luck. Posted by GailL1 Hi Gail, Thanks for the response. My previous post must have sounded bizarre. Here's a little more background. They live in a county in Tennessee with about 15,000 people in it. I did look up department on aging. Nothing in that county. Unfortunately there is no meals on wheels that I know of there, but they wouldn't go for it either. They have had an EXTREMELY LIBERAL nursing home/assisted living/independant living policy. they won't use it. They talk about their friends that live in this beautiful new facility in their community, and they make sure we all know that they are staying right there in their house. There is no public transportation. Both are still driving. I just looked up guardianship and they have both power of attorney and advanced directives. Both named each other and then if they die, it is me. I think the biggest problem is that when something happens to my dad, (he fell last year in the house, and instead of calling 911, my mom took him to the hospital herself.!). How do I convince them that they should call? When we have discussions like that, they look at us like we are small kids again. Yes, they have had the ant infestation, there is evidence of mice in the attic. My husband and I took care of the ant problem. They still won't deal with the mice. (I think that falls under the don't see them, they don't exist) They have had squirrels nesting in an outside wall for years. I reorganized the closet in the spare bedroom. Their was a table top against the wall in the closet. When I moved it, there was a hole bigger than a dinnerplate where the squirrels had chewed through. I called my dad in there to show him and he told me to just put the table back in front of it. That is the kind of stuff I have difficulty with. We attempted one time to bring to their attention that maintenance needed to be done on the house, paint inside and out, replace boards, etc.... My mom was very offended and then just turned it around saying "there must be things wrong with your house." Many of their friends have moved to the new facility, and then she has other neighbors that are also digging their heals in to stay in their houses. She said she didn't want to live in the independent living facility because she has never lived in an apartment. Also, how do you convince them to go to a doctor to see if there is dementia? She always talks about her friends that are "loosing it" I did bring it up to my dad a couple of years ago about my mom and he would not talk about it. I am at a brick wall with a toothpick trying to get through. |