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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at October 20, 2012 2:34 PM EDT
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About asylum - we help those who desperately need help. But we also need to consider our elders and poor. We are high in debt, and budget cutting in the #1 task. We do not need all Chinese who do not like "one child per family" policy to be asylum here. We simply can not afford it.

We are an immigration country. But we have quotas for each category of immigration, but no limit on parent's immigration. While two parents immigration can add a family sizable income, it is not fare to our workers. Parents who take full benefits earns more than our minimum wage salary. And as I know, all the parents who takes benefits did not report their assets and income from their native country.

Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at October 24, 2012 8:06 PM EDT
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It is election season. Both candidates promise something that we could not afford.

I really wish that our country stop to be the world police, and world nursing home.

Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at November 23, 2012 6:18 PM EST
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Canada has 25,000 limitation for parent immigration this year. They are also considering to let the support party take care of the medical bill for the life time.
US still have no limitation for Citizen's parent immigration. If we legalize 12 mil. illegal immigrants, we must either set up limitation on parent immigration, or let the sponser party take care their parents more than 5 years.

Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at December 1, 2012 8:45 PM EST
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Every day I heard that both party plan to reduce the Medicare and Social Security payment. But Medicaid spending is almost the same amount with the Medicare, and the welfare is also about 2/3 of SS payment. Unlimited citizen's parent immigration will add more Medicaid and welfare payment.. Most of our AARP member paid tax on Medicare and SS for the life time, while the new parent immigrants will grab our benefit.

It is not fare. The real rich will not be hurt. It is our life time US workers get hurt.

Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at December 8, 2012 10:38 AM EST
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Medicaid expense is almost the same with Medicare. But no one dare to cut Medicaid. I agree that the rich should pay more tax, to save America, but not the world.

Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at December 8, 2012 1:27 PM EST
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   Lilly, I agree, but the Republican leadership in Congress have become Plutocrats, caring about the wealthy first and foremost on the backs of our already struggling seniors, disabled and Veterans. The Republicans would rather see our seniors, disabled and Veterans go with less benefits than ask our wealthy go back to the Ronaold Reagan Tax rates. Talk about selfishness, we are talking about 3-5% increase in Taxes  for those Americans who are doing well.
   I applaud the success of our Americans, who have done well for themselves, but dont ask for more on the backs of our Americans who are already struggling. The Republicans are talking about Social Security COLA cuts and cuts in Medicare, instead of asking our wealthy to share the sacrifice. Where is the fairness ? Response to Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home:
Medicaid expense is almost the same with Medicare. But no one dare to cut Medicaid. I agree that the rich should pay more tax, to save America, but not the world.
Posted by lilly1966

Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at December 16, 2012 9:43 AM EST
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1. I am not republican, and not democratic party. I am not rich. I work one full time job and one part time job. I raise this topic, just think that we should manage our country like we manage our family finance.
2. The budget struggle seems to raise to a class struggle. The rich are hated. The country seems divided. That is the last thing I like to see.
3. To solve the budget problem, we need to raise tax, including tax rate and reduce loopholes. I support that.
4. To solve the budget problem, we also need to cut cost. Here is the list of the cost:

The total government spending for 2013 (all level governments) will be 6,391.6 billion.
pensions is 1095.9 billions (government employee and SS payment),
health care is 1138.7 billions (Medicare and Medicaid, Medicare about 55% and Medicaid about 45%),
welfare is 750.1 billions,
defense is 902.3 billions,
education is 914.4 billions.

5. In my personal opinion, Social Security and Medicare should not be cut since people paid special tax in their life time, they deserved to get secured life in their senior years. Also, cut SS and Medicare will leave poor senior citizens seeking help from welfare and Medicaid. There is no help to cut budget here. US should not break its promise to those tax payers. They are not the rich. SS will tax only up to about $100, 000 yearly income.

6. We need welfare and Medicaid to help our low income families, and disabled citizens. But we really can save a bunch of money by eliminating the "welfare immigrants".  From the beginning of this topic, my suggestion was any senior immigrants who tries to get welfare and medical help should work in US at least 10 years. That is fare for our US workers. Also, their foreign properties should count. I do have real case that a senior immigrants can get more total benefit than our low income SS earner.

7. Now Social Security age changed to 67, and also try to lift Medicare age. But SSI and Medicaid age are still 65. It is not fare for our life time workers with small savings.

Thanks for reading this.

Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at December 16, 2012 12:21 PM EST
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 You make some valid points. I dont hate the wealthy, I just want shared sacrifice. Response to Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home:
1. I am not republican, and not democratic party. I am not rich. I work one full time job and one part time job. I raise this topic, just think that we should manage our country like we manage our family finance. 2. The budget struggle seems to raise to a class struggle. The rich are hated. The country seems divided. That is the last thing I like to see. 3. To solve the budget problem, we need to raise tax, including tax rate and reduce loopholes. I support that. 4. To solve the budget problem, we also need to cut cost. Here is the list of the cost: The total government spending for 2013 (all level governments) will be 6,391.6 billion. pensions is 1095.9 billions (government employee and SS payment), health care is 1138.7 billions (Medicare and Medicaid, Medicare about 55% and Medicaid about 45%), welfare is 750.1 billions, defense is 902.3 billions, education is 914.4 billions. 5. In my personal opinion, Social Security and Medicare should not be cut since people paid special tax in their life time, they deserved to get secured life in their senior years. Also, cut SS and Medicare will leave poor senior citizens seeking help from welfare and Medicaid. There is no help to cut budget here. US should not break its promise to those tax payers. They are not the rich. SS will tax only up to about $100, 000 yearly income. 6. We need welfare and Medicaid to help our low income families, and disabled citizens. But we really can save a bunch of money by eliminating the "welfare immigrants".  From the beginning of this topic, my suggestion was any senior immigrants who tries to get welfare and medical help should work in US at least 10 years. That is fare for our US workers. Also, their foreign properties should count. I do have real case that a senior immigrants can get more total benefit than our low income SS earner. 7. Now Social Security age changed to 67, and also try to lift Medicare age. But SSI and Medicaid age are still 65. It is not fare for our life time workers with small savings. Thanks for reading this.
Posted by lilly1966

Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at December 17, 2012 8:10 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home:
 You make some valid points. I dont hate the wealthy, I just want shared sacrifice. Response to Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home :
Posted by mandm84


Thank you very much to pay attention on this topic. We all try to make US a better place for ourself and next generation.

Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home

posted at December 30, 2012 1:25 PM EST
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This year's voting made politicians nervous about legal immigration's right issue. "Family reunion" seems a topic no one can say "No". In fact, we can support family reunion, just the sponsor need to be responsible, and we should avoid welfare immigrants.
It is not fare to cut our Medicare and Social Security, while give more money to the people who have never contributed to this society.
Think about most of our senior citizens paid 10 - 50 years tax (in fact, these are double taxed on Federal income tax). Now all the cutting cost point to our life time workers.
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