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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home
posted at September 21, 2012 1:40 PM EDT
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First: September 29, 2008 Last: November 7, 2012 |
In Response to Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home: In Response to Us should stop to be the world free nursing home : The above is news to me. If that is true...I agree the USA is too generous with immigration policies. Further, we don't even have enough decent jobs for our citizens born here and from my understanding we are still accepting legal-immigration who are taking the better jobs away....(.and they'll have parents) Posted by JANMB Both Republicans and Democrats are trying to push bills through Congress to allow illegal immigrants access to full Student Aid for higher education. NY Assembly speaker Sheldon Silver notes we don't have enough engineers and mathmaticians in our country. These future students (illegals) don't speak or read English. We are not only giving them money to go to college, we are paying for aids to fill out their applications. Our legal engineers are being laid off left and right. Many have not been able to find employment. Why are we as legal citizens paying to put ourselves and our children through college, help to build our communities, pay taxes, pay for our health insurance and medical treatment.. yet we have to pay for illegals to receive benefits that neither I nor my clildren receive. This blows my mind!!!!! |
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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home
posted at September 28, 2012 8:39 PM EDT
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First: July 12, 2012 Last: May 16, 2013 |
The politicians get votes. We pay. Not the 1% rich, but our SS and Medicare get cut. The Medicaid increase, part paid to illegal. See this story - illegal dead in emergency room and get 2 million dollas settlement. She did not paid for the care. Her family members were not there when she need them, but get paid by New Your tax money. http://erstories.net/2009/05/two-million-dollar-settlement/ |
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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home
posted at October 2, 2012 9:25 PM EDT
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Posts: 49
First: July 12, 2012 Last: May 16, 2013 |
We see those European countries bankrupted with high debt and welfare. We will follow if we do not care. A country should run like a house hold - meet the end, not over borrow. You would not like stranger to stay in your home, use up all your family resources. The country is the same. |
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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home
posted at October 6, 2012 1:50 PM EDT
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Posts: 49
First: July 12, 2012 Last: May 16, 2013 |
We should vote to protect our Social Security and Medicare program that most of our AARP members pre-paid for 40+ years. Welfare should only take care handicapped veterans, orphans, disabled working classes, not the people who are lazy and become the "poor". Remember, not the 1% rich pays. The government cut our SS and Medicare, while increase welfare and Medicaid. |
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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home
posted at October 6, 2012 11:59 PM EDT
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First: March 2, 2008 Last: May 17, 2013 |
In Response to Us should stop to be the world free nursing home: I had a young woman from Asia rent from us as well as bringing along her 65 year old father who didn't speak a word of English. This seemed very strange to me, but I mentioned it to someone, a legal immigrant and citizen here for 40 years, who told me this happens all the time. The adult children bring their elderly parents here who can take the citizenship test in their own language after a year, then qualify for all our benefits. I couldn't believe this as it's totaly unfair. In fact, 2 parents can add to the family income with benefits. It's very vague and confusing because it's never mentioned in the media. This angers me as my mother lived 8 years in a nursing home. We had to sell her home to cover the first 3 years, then file for Medicaid after she had nothing left. I have a friend who is age 65 and has lived in a nursing home for 4 years. After her mother died in 2000, she lived alone in the family home. It was a struggle for her as she is disabled and hadn't worked for years. She had no health insurance, SS disability or food stamps because she was told that she had savings and the home was partly in her name. She struggled for years until she fell and entered a nursing home in 2008. Yet, she knew relatives from Poland who came here owning nothing, but able to access health care and benefits. We can barely take care of our seniors here, so why should illegals and legals on visas get benefits when they haven't contributed anything to our country?
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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home
posted at October 7, 2012 6:32 PM EDT
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Posts: 1921
First: November 27, 2011 Last: April 13, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home: Posted by intersan It seems you had better take this up with your Congressman and Senator if you disagree with the process. April 2012: Dept of Homeland Security - U.S. Legal Permanent Residents: 2011 "A legal permanent resident (LPR) or “green card” recipient is defined by immigration law as a person who has been granted lawful permanent residence in the United States." "Immediate Relatives of U.S. Citizens Some LPR admission categories are exempt from the annual numeric limits for preference and diversity immigration. The largest category numerically is immediate relatives (spouses and children, including orphans adopted abroad, of U.S. citizens and parents of adult U.S. citizens aged 21 and over). Immediate relatives of U.S. citizens typically account for more than 40 percent of the annual LPR flow. New LPRs in the immediate relatives and family- sponsored preference categories of admission are collectively referred to as family-sponsored immigrants." . . . . Eligibility for Naturalization Most legal permanent residents who are at least 18 years of age are eligible to apply for citizenship after meeting certain requirements. These requirements generally include 5 years of lawful permanent residency in the United States or 3 years for those married to a United States citizen and successful completion of English language, civics, and history tests. Legal immigrant children under 18 years of age may automatically acquire citizenship when a parent naturalizes" There is lots of data in this (6) page report if you care to look at it. To become citizens there is more to it than just residency - also described in the report: "Eligibility for Naturalization Most legal permanent residents who are at least 18 years of age are eligible to apply for citizenship after meeting certain requirements. These requirements generally include 5 years of lawful permanent residency in the United States or 3 years for those married to a United States citizen and successful completion of English language, civics, and history tests." Once you are a citizen, you are afforded the rights and benefits of this privilege as the law indicates. It is our government, our elected representative that have made these laws - (both parties). We are a humane nation - all of us - It seems to me that we as all types of citizens, ALL of us, should change our way of planning for our future and not rely on the government to provide for us. You can see the data on these "parents" coming into the country and they represent but a very small portion and many of them are not taking the benefits that we have designated for the poor, so the numbers get smaller. Now you also have those older people who have come here from other places under the asylum stipulation - Would you deny them access to our country and some of it's protective benefits? I don't know I'm asking. Medicaid for Long Term Care will be changing under Obamacare with more home /. community help with nursing home residency only being available as health makes it a place of last resorts. |
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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home
posted at October 13, 2012 7:48 PM EDT
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First: July 12, 2012 Last: May 16, 2013 |
I started this topic because I was shocked on how little our people know this loophole, and how popular this is in immigration society. I just hope that more people pay attention on this issue, and make more "noise" so our politicians can start to stop this loophole. |
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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home
posted at October 15, 2012 10:49 PM EDT
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First: December 26, 2011 Last: April 22, 2013 |
He is antichristian; Acts of preferentialism for Islam: May 2009 – While Obama does not host any National Day of Prayer event at the White House, he does host White House Iftar dinners in honor of Ramadan. April 2010 – Christian leader Franklin Graham is disinvited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer Event because of complaints from the Muslim community. April 2010 – The Obama administration requires rewriting of government documents and a change in administration vocabulary to remove terms that are deemed offensive to Muslims, including jihad, jihadists, terrorists, radical Islamic, etc. August 2010 – Obama speaks with great praise of Islam and condescendingly of Christianity. August 2010 – Obama went to great lengths to speak out on multiple occasions on behalf of building an Islamic mosque at Ground Zero, while at the same time he was silent about a Christian church being denied permission to rebuild at that location. 2010 – While every White House traditionally issues hundreds of official proclamations and statements on numerous occasions, this White House avoids traditional Biblical holidays and events but regularly recognizes major Muslim holidays, as evidenced by its 2010 statements on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha. October 2011 – Obama’s Muslim advisers block Middle Eastern Christians’ access to the White House. February 2012 – The Obama administration makes effulgent apologies for Korans being burned by the U. S. military, 51 but when Bibles were burned by the military, numerous reasons were offered why it was the right thing to do. Acts of hostility toward people of Biblical faith: April 2008 – Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they “cling to guns or religion” and have an “antipathy to people who aren’t like them.” February 2009 – Obama announces plans to revoke conscience protection for health workers who refuse to participate in medical activities that go against their beliefs, and fully implements the plan in February 2011. April 2009 – When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus’ name be covered when he is making his speech. May 2009 – Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House. April 2009 – In a deliberate act of disrespect, Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican; of course, the pro-life Vatican rejected all three. October 19, 2010 – Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about “the Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence – an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions. November 2010 – Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is “E pluribus unum” rather than “In God We Trust” as established by federal law. January 2011 – After a federal law was passed to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court. February 2011 – Although he filled posts in the State Department, for more than two years Obama did not fill the post of religious freedom ambassador, an official that works against religious persecution across the world; he filled it only after heavy pressure from the public and from Congress. April 2011 – For the first time in American history, Obama urges passage of a non-discrimination law that does not contain hiring protections for religious groups, forcing religious organizations to hire according to federal mandates without regard to the dictates of their own faith, thus eliminating conscience protection in hiring. August 2011 – The Obama administration releases its new health care rules that override religious conscience protections for medical workers in the areas of abortion and contraception |
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Re: Us should stop to be the world free nursing home
posted at October 16, 2012 9:24 PM EDT
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First: July 12, 2012 Last: May 16, 2013 |
It seems not a big number now. Back to 1935, our SS and Medicare had not problem at all. But now... It is legal, so the burden is on our shoulder, and our kid's. If we get current 10 - 20 mil. illegal to be legal, and all their parents come here to get legal assistant. Can we afford? Remember, parant immigration has no limit at all. We are humanity society, but after we spend all borrowed money, what can we do? |
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