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Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers

posted at October 13, 2012 10:28 AM EDT
Posts: 1
First: October 13, 2012
Last: October 13, 2012
I really don't understand why anyone would vote against their own self-interest.
Romney will dismantle Medicare and give the elderly vouchers and privitize social security (put it into Wall Street) and repeal all the protections that FDR put in place to protect the middle class and the poor, including Pell Grants, Food Stamps, etc. while at the same time lowering the tax rates for the very wealthy and giving big oil greater subsidies.
FDR was probably our greatest president, even though he came from a wealthy background, he sincerely cared about the middle class and because of him the middle class prospered for decades, while in the past 30+ years everything has been going to the very wealthy.
If you don't get involved and pay attention to the stark differences in the 2 candidates, we are all going to pay, especially the elderly and hungry children who will be hurt the most.
How about what they plan to do to women's reproductive rights, they want to put women in prision if they have abortions, the right wing has become very extreme and what ever happened to separation of church and state!
Please turn off Faux news and watch more informative programs -- try Bill Moyers, Bob Schieffer, Charlie Rose, PBS, CNN, etc.
Please make an informed decision before you enter the election office -- we have a lot of freedoms and security at stake.
Toni

Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers

posted at October 13, 2012 10:56 PM EDT
Posts: 360
First: October 13, 2012
Last: June 15, 2013
Let's compare Obama's and Romney's Stances on the issues:

Mitt Romney ---------------------------------- Barack Obama

Pro NDAA --------------------------------------Pro NDAA
Pro Patriot Act ---------------------------------Pro Patriot Act
Pro Agenda 21 --------------------------------Pro Agenda 21
Pro TSA -----------------------------------------Pro TSA
Pro Carbon tax -------------------------------Pro Carbon tax
Pro Individual Mandate --------------------Pro Individual Mandate
Pro Abortion ----------------------------------Pro Abortion
Pro Endless Undeclared Wars-----------Pro Endless Undeclared Wars
Pro Occupation-------------------------------Pro Occupation
Pro Torture -----------------------------------Pro Torture
Pro Assassination --------------------------Pro Assassination
Pro Drone Strikes ---------------------------Pro Drone Strikes
Pro Aid to Israel and Dictatorships -----Pro Aid to Israel and Dictatorships
Pro Drug War--------------------------------- Pro Drug war
Pro Banker Bailouts -------------------------Pro Banker Bailouts
Pro Federal Reserve ------------------------Pro Federal Reserve
Pro IRS and IMF ------------------------------Pro IRS and IMF
Pro Corporatism ------------------------------Pro Corporatism
Pro NAFTA -------------------------------------Pro NAFTA
Pro Illegal Immigration ---------------------Pro Illegal Immigration
Pro North American Union ----------------Pro North American Union
Pro Gun Grab ---------------------------------Pro Gun Grab
Funded by Goldman Sachs --------------Funded by Goldman Sachs
Lies to You ------------------------------------Lies To you

Hmmm...seems I'm having difficulty here coming up with differences...they appear to be the same candidate.
Of course there is no reason to think Mitt will be "Pro" on any of these issues tomorrow, with the way he flip flops on EVERYTHING.
There is no difference between The Republican Party and The Democrat Party.
A President Romney = A President Obama.

Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers get a job losers

posted at October 15, 2012 10:50 PM EDT
Posts: 44
First: December 26, 2011
Last: June 12, 2013

He is antichristian;
 
Acts of preferentialism for Islam:
 May 2009 – While Obama does not host any National Day of Prayer event at the White House, he does host White House Iftar dinners in honor of Ramadan.
 April 2010 – Christian leader Franklin Graham is disinvited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer Event because of complaints from the Muslim community.
 April 2010 – The Obama administration requires rewriting of government documents and a change in administration vocabulary to remove terms that are deemed offensive to Muslims, including jihad, jihadists, terrorists, radical Islamic, etc.
 August 2010 – Obama speaks with great praise of Islam and condescendingly of Christianity.
 August 2010 – Obama went to great lengths to speak out on multiple occasions on behalf of building an Islamic mosque at Ground Zero, while at the same time he was silent about a Christian church being denied permission to rebuild at that location.
 2010 – While every White House traditionally issues hundreds of official proclamations and statements on numerous occasions, this White House avoids traditional Biblical holidays and events but regularly recognizes major Muslim holidays, as evidenced by its 2010 statements on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.
 October 2011 – Obama’s Muslim advisers block Middle Eastern Christians’ access to the White House.
 February 2012 – The Obama administration makes effulgent apologies for Korans being burned by the U. S. military, 51 but when Bibles were burned by the military, numerous reasons were offered why it was the right thing to do.
 

Acts of hostility toward people of Biblical faith:
 April 2008 – Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they “cling to guns or religion” and have an “antipathy to people who aren’t like them.”
 February 2009 – Obama announces plans to revoke conscience protection for health workers who refuse to participate in medical activities that go against their beliefs, and fully implements the plan in February 2011.
 April 2009 – When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus’ name be covered when he is making his speech.
 May 2009 – Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House.
 April 2009 – In a deliberate act of disrespect, Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican; of course, the pro-life Vatican rejected all three.
 October 19, 2010 – Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about “the Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence – an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions.
 November 2010 – Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is “E pluribus unum” rather than “In God We Trust” as established by federal law.
 January 2011 – After a federal law was passed to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court.
 February 2011 – Although he filled posts in the State Department, for more than two years Obama did not fill the post of religious freedom ambassador, an official that works against religious persecution across the world; he filled it only after heavy pressure from the public and from Congress.
 April 2011 – For the first time in American history, Obama urges passage of a non-discrimination law that does not contain hiring protections for religious groups, forcing religious organizations to hire according to federal mandates without regard to the dictates of their own faith, thus eliminating conscience protection in hiring.
 August 2011 – The Obama administration releases its new health care rules that override religious conscience protections for medical workers in the areas of abortion and contraception

Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers

posted at October 16, 2012 1:25 AM EDT
Posts: 587
First: May 28, 2012
Last: June 10, 2013
  Michael, You are ok with Romney making millions by sending our jobs to Communist China and then hiding his profits overseas to avoid paying his fair share of taxes and then calling retired seniors, disabled and Veterans moochers ???
   What kind of leader sends our jobs to  Communist China's sweatshops and pays himself Special Dividends on the backs of our workers. Now that he's made his millions he says " I Know How To Stop China ". Romney is a hypocrite.
   I hope you have alot of extra money lying around because If Romney and Ryan win your   healthcare costs are going to go up and up, while your voucher value stays flat. Great for Private Insurance companies profits, bad for us. It's also nice that Paul Ryan's wife, Janna, has worked for years as a Lobbyist for 3 Private Healthcare Companies that have been trying to dismantle Medicare and stop Obamacare. Conflict of interest maybe ???
   I'M SURE THE RYAN'S AGENDA IS TO GIVE US THE BEST CARE POSSIBLE AT OUR LOWEST COST !!! ROMNEY AND THE RYAN'S  WOULDNT BE IN CAHOOTS WITH ANY PRIVATE HEALTHCARE  CORPORATE BILLIONAIRES WOULD THEY ????Response to Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers:
Astra2012, I do not look at Romney as a "lesser evil"; rather, I consider him a better candidate than Obama. There is no perfect candidate or perfect political party. Our democracy in the U.S. is not perfect. But I believe that despite its flaws, our democracy is still superior to any other system that has ever existed in the history of the world, so I disagree that Americans will lose regardless of who occupies the White House. In Response to Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers :
Posted by MichaelMinIL

Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers

posted at October 16, 2012 10:30 AM EDT
Posts: 544
First: August 9, 2011
Last: June 19, 2013
It would be as you say if other Republicans like Paul Ryan hadn't mentioned it before but it was mentioned many times before by top Republicans.  Mitt only repeats what he hears and acts like he is sorry for it after the backlash.  This is not the first time he has backtracked.  He's been doing it the whole campaign.  Just another sign how out of touch he is with the ordinary citizen.


In Response to Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers:
  Sure it was Labrat,  Romney was just bluffing at $50,000 per plate. Now you sound like Romney, just change the subject or begin counter accusations.  Response to Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers :
Posted by mandm84

Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers

posted at October 16, 2012 3:51 PM EDT
Posts: 587
First: May 28, 2012
Last: June 10, 2013
 Do the math my friend, In that 47% is our beloved seniors, disabled and Veterans, who paid their dues when healthy and strong. The Romney Ryan plan is to dismantle Social Security and Medicare because the corporate billionaires who own the Right Wing Republicans party, dont need it or want to pay their fair share in taxes to preserve it.
 This isn't the same Republican party President Reagan stood behind. Its about 98% of Americans, who want and need Social Security and Medicare to survive with dignity. 
  Romney and Ryan's agenda is very  simple " Give More To Those Who Dont Need It and  Less To Those Who Do ". 
Response to Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers:
the truth hurts. half of the usa is lazy and wants to live off us hard working people. get a job loser mittromney.com
Posted by neworleans3999

Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers

posted at October 16, 2012 6:09 PM EDT
Posts: 360
First: October 13, 2012
Last: June 15, 2013
In Response to Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers:
    You need to go back and take a real good look at what King Obama has done to our health care benefits.  Remember no one under 200,000 would have taxes raised well I make only 34,000 a year and had my taxes raised 20%, my TriWest by 25% along with other primeums. If Obama stays in office then expect to loose big time on all Medical Fronts.  And as for his aird comment well its the truth, who would give up free hand-outs and actually have to pay their fair share.  This is not an intitalment nation we get what we work for and controle our own lives not hearded by the Gov Bosses.  I was very disappointed on how much news coverage was given on so called mature retirees booing, we should we should be alot more mature than that with all our life experiances.  I was really embarased by the whole thing.  GD USN/RET
Posted by mscsclg6



The Ryan plan means MAJOR changes to Medicare.  It would eliminate the Medicare guarantee and turn it into a voucher program.  Studies have shown the Ryan plan would cost anyone under 55 years of age an additional $6,000 a year with a slow increase to $12,000 extra out of pocket in later years, and it moves eligibility for seniors to get Medicare from 65 to 67. Of course, he hasn't got a plan to get 20 million people back to work, to rob them of the $6000.

".....because the Ryan plan will literally lead to people dying"

http://tinyurl.com/95egjd9

There is the Romney/Ryan logic.... increase the cost, delay giving the benefits. That way, some will die before the government has to give you back any of YOUR money you already paid to Medicare.
Along with the Republicans plan to move the retirement age to 69, so many will die before ever getting any of the SSI money YOU paid in.
But that's OK. Because while adding additional cost to health care, and working people till they die on the job, you get to pay the taxes for the rich, once Romney lets them off the hook.

Supreme Court Obamacare Decision Highlights Why a President Romney Would be More Dangerous than President Obama

 

A President Mitt Romney would not undo ObamaCare. He’d make it permanent.

"A first-term President Mitt Romney would be far more dangerous to small business, the private sector, and taxpayers than a lame-duck President Obama – no matter what the Supreme Court decided."

http://www.lp.org/news/press-releases/supreme-court-obamacare-decision-highlights-why-a-president-romney-would-be-more

Romney's Idea to Limit Deductions to $17,000 Cannot Make His Tax Plan Work

Today, pres­i­dential candidate and former Mass­a­chu­setts Governor Mitt Romney suggested that one way to offset the cost of his proposed tax cuts would be to limit deduc­tions to $17,000.

“As an option you could say everybody’s going to get up to a $17,000 deduction; and you could use your char­i­table deduction, your home mortgage deduction, or others – your healthcare deduction. And you can fill that bucket, if you will, that $17,000 bucket that way,” he said on a local Denver news show. “And higher income people might have a lower number.”

In September, Romney argued that he would elim­inate enough deduc­tions, exclu­sions and other special breaks to offset the costs of the new tax cuts he proposes, and that the net result would not be a tax increase for the middle-class or a tax cut for the rich.

But an August analysis from Citizens for Tax Justice demon­strated that even if itemized deduc­tions and exclu­sions were elim­i­nated entirely, people who make over $1 million would still see an average net tax break of $250,000 in 2013 under Romney’s plan.

That’s partly because the new tax breaks that Romney proposes are so generous to the rich that they would outweigh the loss of any deduc­tions or exclu­sions. In addition to making permanent all the Bush tax cuts, Romney would reduce income tax rates by a fifth and elim­inate the AMT and the estate tax.

Another reason is that Romney pledges to keep the special breaks that benefit the wealthy most of all — breaks for investment and savings like the special low rate for capital gains.

As a result, there is simply no way to Romney could fill in the details of his tax plan in a way that will not result in huge tax cuts for the very rich.

For low– and middle-income people, the loss of tax expen­di­tures (tax deduc­tions, exclu­sions, credits and other breaks) under Romney’s plan could outweigh any gains from the tax rate reduc­tions and other new tax cuts, resulting in a net tax increase. In fact, this result is inevitable if Romney is to accom­plish his goal of not further increasing the deficit while at the same time cutting taxes for million­aires by at least $250,000 on average.

http://www.ctj.org/taxjusticedigest/archive/2012/10/romneys_idea_to_limit_deductio.php

Mr. Romney Needs a Working Calculator

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/opinion/mitt-romney-needs-a-working-calculator.html?_r=1

To the annoyance of the Romney campaign, members of Washington’s reality-based community have a habit of popping up to point out the many deceptions in the campaign’s blue-sky promises of low taxes and instant growth. The latest is the Joint Committee on Taxation, an obscure but well-respected Congressional panel — currently evenly divided between the parties — that helps lawmakers calculate the effect of their tax plans.

Mitt Romney says he can lower tax rates by 20 percent and pay for it by ending deductions. The joint committee’s math makes it clear that that is impossible.

The biggest problem during elections is, people listen to the candidates and take what they say to heart. Like it or not, politics is a liars game. Now, more than anytime in the past, "We, the people" have the mightest tools available. You have the power to research anything and everything they say.

The biggest problem during elections is, people listen to the candidates and take what they say to heart. Like it or not, politics is a liars game. Now, more than anytime in the past, "We, the people" have the most powerful tools available. Information at your fingertips. You have the power to research anything and everything they say. And you should.

Who is Mitt Romney? http://www.mittvmitt.com/

 

Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers

posted at October 16, 2012 6:56 PM EDT
Posts: 2
First: October 16, 2012
Last: November 3, 2012
The one things that is very true, is that when Romney was calling 47% of the American population "Moochers" it's something he believe, and it was from his heart.  Keep in mind this was all off the cuff, it was not suppose to be recorded, it was private, and it's what he believes.  It says a lot about him when he is not surrounded by a bunch of reporters or cameras.

It is said that you don't have to worry about what goes in your mouth, but what comes out of it.  Because what comes out of your mouth in times like it shows the true belief in your heart.  Well for the American people and especially the 47% they know how Romney "Truly" feels about them.

Think about it...

Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers

posted at October 16, 2012 8:14 PM EDT
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Last: June 15, 2013
In Response to Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers:
That tape was carefully edited, leaving out several minutes around the 47% comment.  Response to Re: Romney Calls Us Moochers :
Posted by Labrat64



And, you have proof it was edited?
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