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Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
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In two months get ready for the fight of our lives to protect our Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, because the Republicans are coming with an axe. We cant afford to sit back and do nothin
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 14, 2013 4:28 PM EST
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Posts: 6758
First: January 3, 2012 Last: February 13, 2013 |
I read the ATTEMPTED SCARE TACTICS used by the posters regarding Social Security and Medicare. The far left has tried this before showing Paul Ryan pushing Granny over the Medicare Cliff in a paid TV ad. Don't these folks know that both the fiscally failed Social Security and Medicare Programs need to be fixed? Where are their erroneous sources of information coming from AND where are the TRUE FACTS and TRUTH about the over $ 41 TRILLION DOLLARS IN UNFUNDED LIABILITIES OF MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND SOCIAL SECURITY? What are the Comprehensive Obama Plans to save Medicare and Social Security? Why doesn't Obama talk about it. Paul Ryan and Ron Wyden had a BIPARTISAN PLAN to save Medicare and this would have been an ideal starting point for OBAMA to show leadership and seize the moment to save Medicare which will go broke between 2016 and 2024. |
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 14, 2013 5:22 PM EST
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Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012 Last: May 15, 2013 |
Turn it into a Voucher system ? Is that what you are saying Good Time Charlie ? Do you have any Idea why Ryan wanted to turn Medicare into a Voucher system ? His wife Janna, has worked for years as a very high paid healthcare Lobbyist for Cigna and Blue Cross, two of the largest private healthcare companies on the planet ! Can you say " Conflict of Interest " loud enough ? I dont mean any disrespect to you sir, but I Stopped getting my so called news from Faux. I mean Fox , where its so fair and balanced a long time ago and I hope others will as well. I say this because they say repeatedly, just what you are about Ryan's plans. Ryan has a hidden agenda and it involves more profits for Big Companies, not savings for us as tax payers.Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next: I read the ATTEMPTED SCARE TACTICS used by the posters regarding Social Security and Medicare. The far left has tried this before showing Paul Ryan pushing Granny over the Medicare Cliff in a paid TV ad. Don't these folks know that both the fiscally failed Social Security and Medicare Programs need to be fixed? Where are their erroneous sources of information coming from AND where are the TRUE FACTS and TRUTH about the over $ 41 TRILLION DOLLARS IN UNFUNDED LIABILITIES OF MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND SOCIAL SECURITY? What are the Comprehensive Obama Plans to save Medicare and Social Security? Why doesn't Obama talk about it. Paul Ryan and Ron Wyden had a BIPARTISAN PLAN to save Medicare and this would have been an ideal starting point for OBAMA to show leadership and seize the moment to save Medicare which will go broke between 2016 and 2024.
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 15, 2013 12:07 AM EST
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First: March 2, 2008 Last: May 17, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next: In Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next : IF there is so much worry about DEBT where was all the complaining from the public at that time ....I mean when congress & GWBush started two wars, a drug bill that helped pharma and the two Bush tax breaks to the wealthiest UNFUNDED I might add ??? Don't be fooled cause ....of course...., we're not "broke. Big corporations and the wealthiest Americans are making more money - and a higher percentage of America's total income - than ever. The fact is that if millionaires and billionaires paid taxes at the same rate they did during the Reagan Administration - and the income they earn clipping coupons on investments were taxed at the same rates as people who work for a living - that would go a long way to eliminating the deficit. Don’t we eventually have to match spending and revenue? Yes, we do. But the decision about how to do that isn’t about accounting. It’s about fundamental values that republicans don't seem to have a clue about these days. Posted by JANMB I completely agree with you when you mention about the Repubs big spending during the Bush administrations. Wasn't it Cheney who said that "deficits don't matter" when we were engaging in the wars? While overlooking Afghanistan to engage in Iraq, Bush told us that it would probably cost about 50 billion $$$ to oust Saddam. How could they have been so ignorant and clueless to think this? Yet, at the same time they gave us tax cuts! Is this fiscal responsibility? Then, during a time of wars, Bush gave big Pharma a reward while drug prices increased and people fell into the "donut hole". If that weren't enough, they engaged in a real estate bubble and let Wall Street take over. Let's not forget the millions of jobs that were leaving this country for cheap labor that sent us into a ditch. What about the bailouts for big banks that caused the mortgage and banking crisis? If anyone can't see the huge deficits caused by Bush, they're either lying or delusional. We're merely paying for the deficits caused by Bush & Company. |
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 15, 2013 12:00 PM EST
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Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012 Last: May 15, 2013 |
lschlueter, In my humble opinion, the real problem is spending on needless Wars, which turns into needless spending on returning soldiers funerals and their disablity healthcare, needless spending on rebuilding those destroyed Nations ( Iraq). The 4 Trillion Dollars in lost Tax revenue from the Bush Tax Cuts, during Two Wars. That lost Tax revenue, which was needed to not only fund the Wars, but to maintain our civilized society ( police, fire, schools, roads, etc...) The needless spending on NO-BID Contracts to the Halliburton type corporations. Its amazing that for the first time in our Nation's history we waged Two Wars and cut taxes at the same time and the Right Wing Republicans dont want to talk about its affect on our economy. During the longest Wars in our history in Iraq and Afghanistan, we had the wealthiest Americans paying an average of 17% in Taxes, but during the shorter and less costly WWII, our wealthiest paid 90% in Taxes. Do the math and what else would you expect, but a hard hit on our economy. So, I'm tired of the Republicans blaming the cost of Social Security and Medicare for our current economic hardship. Our seniors and disabled have paid for their Social Security and Medicare, so Republicans in Congress, please stop holding us hostage in your debt ceiling negotiations. Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next: In Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next : Please get your figures straight . . . ignorance is no excuse for certian comments . . . even if the rates would be charged, it would only ammount to a few days of spending . . . the problem is the liberal spending and the liberal spending and the liberal spending.
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 15, 2013 4:35 PM EST
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First: August 9, 2011 Last: May 14, 2013 |
You want to talk spending? Better look at George W. and the spending he did in Iraq and Afghanistan trying to make them model democracies in the Middle East. Yes the U.S. is spending less now than in the days of W.and even Reagan. But the blame is on the Liberals who are not spending as much as the Republicans. Social Security or Medcare are NOT entitlement programs as Republicans would like everyone to believe. And if Liberals are spending, at least it's on their own people rather than foreigners who could care less about what happens to the U.S. In Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next: In Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next : Please get your figures straight . . . ignorance is no excuse for certian comments . . . even if the rates would be charged, it would only ammount to a few days of spending . . . the problem is the liberal spending and the liberal spending and the liberal spending. Posted by lschlueter |
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 16, 2013 10:39 PM EST
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Posts: 340
First: October 13, 2012 Last: May 17, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next: I read the ATTEMPTED SCARE TACTICS used by the posters regarding Social Security and Medicare. The far left has tried this before showing Paul Ryan pushing Granny over the Medicare Cliff in a paid TV ad. Don't these folks know that both the fiscally failed Social Security and Medicare Programs need to be fixed? Where are their erroneous sources of information coming from AND where are the TRUE FACTS and TRUTH about the over $ 41 TRILLION DOLLARS IN UNFUNDED LIABILITIES OF MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND SOCIAL SECURITY? What are the Comprehensive Obama Plans to save Medicare and Social Security? Why doesn't Obama talk about it. Paul Ryan and Ron Wyden had a BIPARTISAN PLAN to save Medicare and this would have been an ideal starting point for OBAMA to show leadership and seize the moment to save Medicare which will go broke between 2016 and 2024. Posted by GoodTimeCharlie "What are the Comprehensive Obama Plans to save Medicare and Social Security? Probably about the same as Bush's plan was. |
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 17, 2013 11:16 AM EST
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First: January 17, 2013 Last: January 17, 2013 |
Henny Penny, Got no problem with the Democrats "protected" class of young welfare (food stamps, wic, section 8, welfare SSDI, etc.) recipients sitting back collecting and reproducing another future a nonproductive leaching? THAT class is expanding at an alarming rate while we push our elders to continue working to help subsidize them. Not to mention illegal aliens that our government runs commercials in other nations encouraging them to avail themselves of our "social services. Take a look at Obama's Aunt in South Boston with her section 8 housing by the sea. She availed herself of all these as an illegal alien with a decade old deportation order and then was found out, received asylum and SSDI to boot! We encourage, applaud and vote for this abuse and then cry foul because SS and Medicare become unsustainable and need changing. The elderly SHOULD BE the protected class and instead are just used as lip service pawns of scare tactics to continue the building of the young non-productive class who will always vote to protect their benefits at the expense of the elderly. It's wrong to lump the elderly in with this entitlement class, but it keeps the cycle of "D" votes going. We've allowed ourselves to be categorized this way by voting for those who will expand the young welfare class thinking we were saving our benefits when all we've done is bring us to the point that we've run out of options . Time to distinguish ourselves and demand the REAL entitlement class be overhauled! |
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 17, 2013 12:40 PM EST
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Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012 Last: May 15, 2013 |
cdecee, I agree that able bodied people on Welfare should not be allowed to steal from OUR budget and there is a mandatory back to work program already in place for them, but the welfare crooks only comprise less than 7% of the entitlement budget. If you get your news from Fox, Stop listening only to Fox News, because they spread more falsehoods than truths. Fox was sued for intentionally spreading lies and the court acknowledged that, but said its up to the viewers to find the truth, so Fox continues their Right Wing agenda full of anti Democrat falsehoods. President Obama and V.P. Biden have both promised to preserve and protect Social Security and Medicare and the Republicans say we cant afford it and want to cut our benefits, so If you need Social Security with a reasonable COLA and Medicare with reasonable co pays, you might want to rethink which party is in your corner. Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next: Henny Penny, Got no problem with the Democrats "protected" class of young welfare (food stamps, wic, section 8, welfare SSDI, etc.) recipients sitting back collecting and reproducing another future a nonproductive leaching? THAT class is expanding at an alarming rate while we push our elders to continue working to help subsidize them. Not to mention illegal aliens that our government runs commercials in other nations encouraging them to avail themselves of our "social services. Take a look at Obama's Aunt in South Boston with her section 8 housing by the sea. She availed herself of all these as an illegal alien with a decade old deportation order and then was found out, received asylum and SSDI to boot! We encourage, applaud and vote for this abuse and then cry foul because SS and Medicare become unsustainable and need changing. The elderly SHOULD BE the protected class and instead are just used as lip service pawns of scare tactics to continue the building of the young non-productive class who will always vote to protect their benefits at the expense of the elderly. It's wrong to lump the elderly in with this entitlement class, but it keeps the cycle of "D" votes going. We've allowed ourselves to be categorized this way by voting for those who will expand the young welfare class thinking we were saving our benefits when all we've done is bring us to the point that we've run out of options . Time to distinguish ourselves and demand the REAL entitlement class be overhauled!
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 21, 2013 11:45 AM EST
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First: January 21, 2013 Last: January 21, 2013 |
It is a entitlement if you receive benefits and you don't pay into it . Hoe many people do you think are currently getting benefits that have not contributed to it . I see that as a entitlement . If you worked your whole life and paid into to SSI then it is not a entitlement. |
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Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next
posted at January 21, 2013 12:25 PM EST
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Posts: 12532
First: February 29, 2008 Last: May 17, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Republicans Will Try To Cut Our Social Security and Medicare Benefits Next: Henny Penny, Got no problem with the Democrats "protected" class of young welfare (food stamps, wic, section 8, welfare SSDI, etc.) recipients sitting back collecting and reproducing another future a nonproductive leaching? Posted by cdecee NONSENSE !!! In general, social welfare programs DID account for a small amount of the national budget. AFDC [the program prior to TANF] says these programs were less than 1% of the federal budget and, on average, no more than 2% of each state's fund. That's NOTHING compared to the CORPORATE WELFARE and WELFARE to the individual-rich who are the real takers in our society. After 2001 however, CBS did a program on the homeless when the country slowly slid into recession. American families had been falling out of the middle class in record numbers. The combination of lost jobs and millions of foreclosures meant a lot of folks are still homeless and hungry for the first time in their lives. When Congress decides on the 2013 budget, will they decide to save lives, or will they let millions of people die of preventable causes because of devastating budget cuts? America's fiscal problems are a direct result of the Billionaire Class working behind the scenes of our democracy and syphoning off massive amounts of wealth for themselves while paying lower taxes than they've paid in a half-century. Poverty isn't because of a lack of character ...its a lack of money due to a lack of opportunity due to a lack of investment .
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