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After three years, it gets pretty old&nbsp;hearing of all the hatred concerning this black presidents policy, but if you ask what particular policy all you get is stutters and blank stares . Was it hi
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The Presidents Policies

posted at December 22, 2011 12:59 PM EST
Posts: 33
First: December 21, 2011
Last: March 19, 2012
After three years, it gets pretty old hearing of all the hatred concerning this black presidents policy, but if you ask what particular policy all you get is stutters and blank stares
. Was it his policy that promised to go after and kill Bin Laden, that you don't like? was it his policy to promise and end the false war in Iraq and starting to bring American troops home? Was it his policy to seek and sign a bill for equal pay for women? Was it his policy to fight for health care for ALL Americans, taking that greed away from insurance companies? Was it his policy to ask the top 1% of us to pay a little more to help pay for tax cut extension for130,000,000 middle class workers and extending unemployment pay for those unable to find all those jobs promised by Republican Tea Partiers in support of those 1% job creaters?
Or do you buy into the extreme rights lies about this President causing two wars on credit cards, or causing the worse recession in our history, since the Depression, although the recession and  real estate and job losses started during and prior tp 2007.
It couldn't possibly be that this black President is honest in caring for ALL Americans, and smarter than previous and current clown act of the Republican Tea Party members.No one wants to be thought of as a racist, so lets be HONEST and admit we hate this President for what policy, and NOT just because he's a black man. Other wise our country will never get beyond politics of hate mongering!

Re: The Presidents Policies

posted at December 22, 2011 2:23 PM EST
Posts: 1923
First: November 27, 2011
Last: May 18, 2013
OK - I don't like the way the PPACA (Obamacare) is designed.  I can give you many details of why I don't.

I wonder why he appoints all of these Bi-partisan deficit commissions and then does not like any of their suggestions.
His stimulus fell short in my community with wit a lot of wasteful spending.
I don't like giving money to specific industries and then they fail.
I don't like using the tax code to entice people to do things.

I don't like expanding the SNAP program when what products can be bought are not nutricious.

I want an administration that promotes personal responsibility and explaining to people the importance of the decisions they make in their lives - from having children to buying a house or car or signing a contract for anything.



Re: The Presidents Policies

posted at December 22, 2011 2:30 PM EST
Posts: 938
First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
I don't like his policy of bailing out some banks with taxpayers money. They are in trouble   because the bosses were greedy--let them fall then!

Re: The Presidents Policies

posted at December 22, 2011 2:33 PM EST
Posts: 1923
First: November 27, 2011
Last: May 18, 2013
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies:
I don't like his policy of bailing out some banks with taxpayers money. They are in trouble   because the bosses were greedy--let them fall then!
Posted by Astra2012


So what would have happened if we did not bail them out?
You do know that most of them have repaid the actual bail out funds.

Actually the bailout of the banks were done during the Bush term,.

Re: The Presidents Policies

posted at December 22, 2011 3:35 PM EST
Posts: 12532
First: February 29, 2008
Last: May 17, 2013
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies:
OK - I don't like the way the PPACA (Obamacare) is designed.  I can give you many details of why I don't. I wonder why he appoints all of these Bi-partisan deficit commissions and then does not like any of their suggestions. His stimulus fell short in my community with wit a lot of wasteful spending. I don't like giving money to specific industries and then they fail. I don't like using the tax code to entice people to do things. I don't like expanding the SNAP program when what products can be bought are not nutricious. I want an administration that promotes personal responsibility and explaining to people the importance of the decisions they make in their lives - from having children to buying a house or car or signing a contract for anything.
Posted by GailL1


Don't like OBAMACARE ---which is HEALTHCARE REFORM PREPARED by  a select members of congress  !!!    We should  abolish  reform  then
  • Bring Back “Pre-Existing Conditions.
  • Kick Grandma Off Medicare & Give Her a Coupon

This doesn't make sense.  

Re: The Presidents Policies

posted at December 22, 2011 8:37 PM EST
Posts: 1923
First: November 27, 2011
Last: May 18, 2013
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies:
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies : Don't like OBAMACARE ---which is HEALTHCARE REFORM PREPARED by  a select members of congress  !!!    We should  abolish  reform  then Bring Back “Pre-Existing Conditions . Kick Grandma Off Medicare & Give Her a Coupon This doesn't make sense.  
Posted by JANMB


Most states already had a high risk pool now they just have another subsidized by Federal Funds - you have to be without insurance for (6) months to even apply AND many people are still finding that they cannot afford the premiums under this high-risk coverage.  This was to stay in place until 2014 but most states have not seen the numbers of uninsured coming into this program.

We still don't know what is going to be covered within the health insurance exchanges - this has not been completely defined.  There will be levels of coverage to buy into - bronze to platinum.  There will be a deductible, co-pays, etc.

The Feds and the States don't know how the MEDICAID expansion is gonna work - they can barely pay for what is in the system now and after expansion more people will be added.

HHS has already announced that the CLASS Act is a NO-GO - they have dropped its inclusion into Obamacare because the math just did not work.

The subsidy to employers  to keep retirees on their employers heath plan was to last through 2013 - HHS anounced this month that this coverage is now out of money and no  more claims will be processed.

We have a giant list of companies, unions and states that have now gotten waivers on various aspects of the legislation .  States are now also asking for exemption from many parts of the Medicard expansion because they don't know how they will continue to afford it once the Federal money begins to dwindle down or the Feds have also underestimated how much it will cost and the money runs out.

Under the Medicare program -
I am concerned how the Accountable Care Organizations will work and if my own choice of physicians will be involved in these groups.  Will I have a choice of physicians?
I am concerned that the number of (good) primary care physicians will dwindle because of low reimbursement.
I am concerned about the Independent Payment Advisory Board, thier make-up, their tax-payers salary - their recommendations still have to go through the government route (Congress) -
I am concerned about the individual mandate

I think people are expecting more than the program can possibly give but most of all I am concerned about the overall price of health care of which Obamacare does nothing to improve - we seem to want the best but don't want to pay for it.

I am concerned that science may prove things and want changes that goes against public opinion on their healthcare and as we have already seen, public opinion wins because of our political process.

When all of us baby-boomers hit the roll of Medicare, there will be a tremendous sucking sound in the pockets of our young and working youth and guess what, we (baby boomers) will be around for a long,long time ( at least us women).

Right now I am paying $ 3200 per month for my 89 year old mother in an Assisted Living Facility.  More is added as her level of care increases - nursing homes are even higher.  She was above the age where long term care insurance would have been financially feasible but does have funds for a good while.

What's gonna happen to the cost of care when these caregivers decide to unionized for higher pay or more benefits?
UP, up, up goes the prices both for private payers and for those on Medicaid subsidized care.

Re: The Presidents Policies

posted at December 22, 2011 11:04 PM EST
Posts: 938
First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies:
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies : So what would have happened if we did not bail them out? You do know that most of them have repaid the actual bail out funds. Actually the bailout of the banks were done during the Bush term,.
Posted by GailL1


they would follow the Lehman Brothers
"most"? i thought that "all" repaid
if  it started during Bush---just ignore that answer

Re: The Presidents Policies

posted at December 22, 2011 11:21 PM EST
Posts: 1923
First: November 27, 2011
Last: May 18, 2013
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies:
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies : they would follow the Lehman Brothers "most"? i thought that "all" repaid if  it started during Bush---just ignore that answer
Posted by Astra2012


Some of the smaller, regional banks have not repaid fully - last I checked.
and I don't know about Citi - they may or may not have repaid all by now.

Course we took a loss on GM - it's only taxpayer money Surprised

Re: The Presidents Policies

posted at December 23, 2011 10:19 AM EST
Posts: 938
First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies:
In Response to Re: The Presidents Policies : Some of the smaller, regional banks have not repaid fully - last I checked. and I don't know about Citi - they may or may not have repaid all by now. Course we took a loss on GM - it's only taxpayer money
Posted by GailL1


i should have said: i do not like bailing out the EUROPEAN banks.

anyway I think this is one of the problems: government spends easily (and wastefully!) "only taxpayeers money"

when you have to earn your money (you EARN SS of course) you are much more careful spending it then when you TAKE it from someone (as income tax)

That's why i really like Ron Paul's common sense position:
income tax is about one-third of government revenue
cut government spending at least this one third
do not take money from American people because they know better how to spend it and they will not waste it!

Re: The Presidents Policies

posted at December 23, 2011 10:21 AM EST
Posts: 535
First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 24, 2013
 Papabob.
You are absolutely correct in your assessment of our President. He's worked for the good of the 99% rather than the rich 1%. 





n Response to The Presidents Policies:
After three years, it gets pretty old hearing of all the hatred concerning this black presidents policy, but if you ask what particular policy all you get is stutters and blank stares . Was it his policy that promised to go after and kill Bin Laden, that you don't like? was it his policy to promise and end the false war in Iraq and starting to bring American troops home? Was it his policy to seek and sign a bill for equal pay for women? Was it his policy to fight for health care for ALL Americans, taking that greed away from insurance companies? Was it his policy to ask the top 1% of us to pay a little more to help pay for tax cut extension for130,000,000 middle class workers and extending unemployment pay for those unable to find all those jobs promised by Republican Tea Partiers in support of those 1% job creaters? Or do you buy into the extreme rights lies about this President causing two wars on credit cards, or causing the worse recession in our history, since the Depression, although the recession and  real estate and job losses started during and prior tp 2007. It couldn't possibly be that this black President is honest in caring for ALL Americans, and smarter than previous and current clown act of the Republican Tea Party members.No one wants to be thought of as a racist, so lets be HONEST and admit we hate this President for what policy, and NOT just because he's a black man. Other wise our country will never get beyond politics of hate mongering!
Posted by papabob

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