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President Willard "Mitt" Romney

posted at October 14, 2012 12:18 PM EDT
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The Iraq War was a conflict triggered by an invasion of Iraq, by the United States and the United Kingdom from March 20, 2003 to December 18, 2011, though sectarian violence continues and has caused thousands of fatalities, a total of 4,486 U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq between 2003 and 2012.

After investigation following the invasion, the U.S.‑led Iraq Survey Group concluded that Iraq had ended its nuclear, chemical and biological programs in 1991, and had no active programs at the time of the invasion, but that they intended to resume production if the Iraq sanctions were lifted. Although some degraded remnants of misplaced or abandoned chemical weapons from before 1991 were found, they were not the weapons which had been the one of the main arguments for the invasion.

The War in Afghanistan began on October 7, 2001,as the armed forces of the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, and the Afghan United Front (Northern Alliance) launched Operation Enduring Freedom. The primary driver of the invasion was the September 11 attacks on the United States, with the stated goal of dismantling the al-Qaeda terrorist organization and ending its use of Afghanistan as a base. The United States also said that it would remove the Taliban regime from power and create a viable democratic state. More than a decade into the war, NATO forces continue to battle a widespread Taliban insurgency, and the war has expanded into the tribal area of neighboring Pakistan. The War in Afghanistan is also the United States longest running war. A total of 2,136 U.S. soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan.

On 25 July 2010, the release of 91,731 classified documents from the Wikileaks organization was made public. The documents cover U.S. military incident and intelligence reports from January 2004 to December 2009. Some of these documents included sanitized, and "covered up", accounts of civilian casualties caused by Coalition Forces. The reports also included many references to other incidents involving civilian casualties like the Kunduz airstrike and Nangar Khel incident.

The leaked documents also contain reports of Pakistan collusion with the Taliban. According to Der Spiegel, "the documents clearly show that the Pakistani intelligence agency Inter-Services Intelligence (usually known as the ISI) is the most important accomplice the Taliban has outside of Afghanistan." The New York Times was especially alarmed by the level of collusion with the Taliban, having concluded that Pakistan "allows representatives of its spy service to meet directly with the Taliban in secret strategy sessions to organize networks of militant groups that fight against American soldiers in Afghanistan, and even hatch plots to assassinate Afghan leaders." The Guardian, however, did not think there was "a convincing smoking gun" for complicity between Pakistan intelligence services and the Taliban.

Note, we have spent more time in these two wars, than in WWI and WWII combined. Also note, there has been NO congressional declaration of war, since WWII.

Mitt Romney promises a major defense build-up if he is elected president. Under last year’s budget agreement, defense spending over the next decade will amount to $6 trillion. If no debt agreement is reached by January, that will drop to $5.5 trillion under rules known as sequestration. Romney, the Republican challenging President Obama, vows to spend at least 4 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product on defense, which works out to $8.3 trillion under the same economic assumptions.
http://tinyurl.com/8ub9yl5

Mitt Romney’s pledge to build 15 Navy vessels a year, up from about nine a year now planned, is a goal that will probably be reached in his first term.

The Navy’s plans now call for seven vessels in 2014, eight in 2015, nine in 2016 and seven in 2017. That’s 31 vessels for a planned expenditure of $53.3 billion. The plan also anticipates 11 vessels in 2018 and nine in 2019. Over 30 years, the Navy’s ship purchases will average about 8.9 vessels a year, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
http://tinyurl.com/8upuawe

Are we gearing up for even more war? Does Romney have an underlying plan, that isn't been spoke of? With a President Romney, will WWIII be a possibility, and be evoked by the U.S.?
Is Romney advocating Global Dominance?

In a June 2007 Republican debate, Romney was asked about "the use of tactical nuclear weapons" to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb and responded that "You don't take options off the table, but what you do is stand back and say, 'What's going on here?' You see what's happening in Sudan and Afghanistan, in Iraq and Iran." In 2007 he also stated he would use "blockade, bombardment and surgical military strikes" against Iran if necessary. In September of that year he protested Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaking at the 62nd session of the United Nations General Assembly, stating that the invitation should be revoked and he should instead be greeted with an indictment under the Genocide Convention for threats against Israel. He stated that failure to act should lead the United States to reconsider its level of support and funding for the United Nations.

In 2011, Romney advocated both overt and covert means to get Iran to stop its nuclear weapons development program. He said that “Ultimately, regime change is what’s going to be necessary.” In 2012 he called on President Obama “to impose crippling economic sanctions on the Iranian regime, support the Iranian dissidents, and convey through actions – not just words – that the military option is very real and very credible.”

In June 2012, Romney said "I can assure you, if I'm President, the Iranians will have no question but that I would be willing to take military action if necessary to prevent them from becoming a nuclear threat to the world." In his July 2012 trip to Israel he said that preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear "capability" should be America's "highest national security priority." ( A clear indication that Romney intends to go to war with Iran )

Mitt Romney's web site says: "Mitt Romney will never make national-security decisions based upon electoral politics. Upon taking office, he will review our transition to the Afghan military by holding discussions with our commanders in the field. He will order a full inter-agency assessment of our military and assistance presence in Afghanistan to determine the level required to secure our gains and to train Afghan forces to the point where they can protect the sovereignty of Afghanistan from the tyranny of the Taliban. Withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan under a Romney administration will be based on conditions on the ground as assessed by our military commanders with the goal of completing the transition of combat operations to the Afghan Army by the end of 2014".

That means 2 more years of war at 3.6 billion dollars a month, and countless deaths, and then Romneys web site says:
"Withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan under a Romney administration will be based on conditions on the ground as assessed by our military commanders with the goal of completing the transition of combat operations to the Afghan Army by the end of 2014". With our progress in this conflict being as minimal as it has been, is 2014 really going to happen? Probably not. "Assessed by our military commanders" indicates that, if our commanders in the field are not sure the job is done, we will continue with the war, beyond 2014.

So where does this all end? 8 Trillion in military build up, 53.3 billion for new Navy ships? All to continue in war with third world countries, that have no problem holding their own against the Super Power of the World, the United States? ****"Romney was asked about "the use of tactical nuclear weapons" to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb and responded that "You don't take options off the table"*** - Is Mitt Romney ready and willing to go into a nuclear war? He isn't saying NO. He said: "You don't take options off the table".

How much more war do the people of this country have to put up with? How much more of our tax money has to be spent on killing? Apparently, our own economy, the homeless, the unemployed, the poor, the sick, the failing education system... all have to take a back seat to our military spending to continue wars in countries, whose biggest complaint with the U.S. is that, we are in their countries. Do our ground forces of more than 100,000 U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, have any real impact on our goal? We fight, kill, bomb and then give them food and supplies to rebuild? Does any of this make sense? Romney's willingness to consider the use of nuclear weapons seems to point the the fact that a nuclear war is quite possible, if he were to be elected.

This is the United States of America, as seen through the eyes of the world. We invade, bomb and kill, all in the name of Freedom and Democracy.
The Afghanistan war was started in the attempt to hunt down Osama Bin Laden for 9/11. The hunt is over, but the war continues. Now it is the war to place Democracy and Freedom, as the Afghanistan government. Is it our place to force our failing system of government into these countries? And how long after we leave, will it be before these governments are over thrown and they return to their former ways?

Russian President Vladimir Putin has pointed to Romney's comment on Spain's economy, at the Presidential debate, as justification for Russia's opposition to America's missile defense plans in Europe, saying the statement has "strengthened Russia's positions in talks on this important and sensitive subject."
Is President Putin saying, we will keep our missles, and see what Romney's plans are?
Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/10/07/mitt-romney-spain-jab-adds-to-foreign-policy-woes/#ixzz28eR9hDsm


When you cast your vote this year, remember one thing. The biggest threat to our country, or to the world, may not be from some 3rd world middle east country.
Mitt Romney has already offended large groups of our own citizens, and several Ally countries with his own words and viewpoints.
Mitt Romney himself could be our biggest national and global security risk.

Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney

posted at October 15, 2012 1:49 PM EDT
Posts: 533
First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 22, 2013
Talk about a waste of taxpayers money is shipbuilding these days.  The LPD was a ship that supposed to take the place of two ships.  Before a piece of steel was cut the program was 800 million dollars over budget and when the ship was complete was not sea worthy due to defects.  We have no competition in shipbuilding anymore.  The shipyard that builds a certain ship is the only one in the country and can ask the price it wants.  Major defense contractors have put a monopoly on shipbuilding.  They take no pride in their work or their people and look for only short term goals of making money.


In Response to President Willard "Mitt" Romney:
The Iraq War was a conflicicet triggered by an invasion of Iraq, by the United States and the United Kingdom from March 20, 2003 to December 18, 2011, though sectarian violence continues and has caused thousands of fatalities, a total of 4,486 U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq between 2003 and 2012. After investigation following the invasion, the U.S.‑led Iraq Survey Group concluded that Iraq had ended its nuclear, chemical and biological programs in 1991, and had no active programs at the time of the invasion, but that they intended to resume production if the Iraq sanctions were lifted. Although some degraded remnants of misplaced or abandoned chemical weapons from before 1991 were found, they were not the weapons which had been the one of the main arguments for the invasion. The War in Afghanistan began on October 7, 2001,as the armed forces of the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, and the Afghan United Front (Northern Alliance) launched Operation Enduring Freedom. The primary driver of the invasion was the September 11 attacks on the United States, with the stated goal of dismantling the al-Qaeda terrorist organization and ending its use of Afghanistan as a base. The United States also said that it would remove the Taliban regime from power and create a viable democratic state. More than a decade into the war, NATO forces continue to battle a widespread Taliban insurgency, and the war has expanded into the tribal area of neighboring Pakistan. The War in Afghanistan is also the United States longest running war. A total of 2,136 U.S. soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan. On 25 July 2010, the release of 91,731 classified documents from the Wikileaks organization was made public. The documents cover U.S. military incident and intelligence reports from January 2004 to December 2009. Some of these documents included sanitized, and "covered up", accounts of civilian casualties caused by Coalition Forces. The reports also included many references to other incidents involving civilian casualties like the Kunduz airstrike and Nangar Khel incident. The leaked documents also contain reports of Pakistan collusion with the Taliban. According to Der Spiegel, "the documents clearly show that the Pakistani intelligence agency Inter-Services Intelligence (usually known as the ISI) is the most important accomplice the Taliban has outside of Afghanistan." The New York Times was especially alarmed by the level of collusion with the Taliban, having concluded that Pakistan "allows representatives of its spy service to meet directly with the Taliban in secret strategy sessions to organize networks of militant groups that fight against American soldiers in Afghanistan, and even hatch plots to assassinate Afghan leaders." The Guardian, however, did not think there was "a convincing smoking gun" for complicity between Pakistan intelligence services and the Taliban. Note, we have spent more time in these two wars, than in WWI and WWII combined. Also note, there has been NO congressional declaration of war, since WWII. Mitt Romney promises a major defense build-up if he is elected president. Under last year’s budget agreement, defense spending over the next decade will amount to $6 trillion. If no debt agreement is reached by January, that will drop to $5.5 trillion under rules known as sequestration. Romney, the Republican challenging President Obama, vows to spend at least 4 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product on defense, which works out to $8.3 trillion under the same economic assumptions. http://tinyurl.com/8ub9yl5 Mitt Romney’s pledge to build 15 Navy vessels a year, up from about nine a year now planned, is a goal that will probably be reached in his first term. The Navy’s plans now call for seven vessels in 2014, eight in 2015, nine in 2016 and seven in 2017. That’s 31 vessels for a planned expenditure of $53.3 billion. The plan also anticipates 11 vessels in 2018 and nine in 2019. Over 30 years, the Navy’s ship purchases will average about 8.9 vessels a year, according to the Congressional Budget Office. http://tinyurl.com/8upuawe Are we gearing up for even more war? Does Romney have an underlying plan, that isn't been spoke of? With a President Romney, will WWIII be a possibility, and be evoked by the U.S.? Is Romney advocating Global Dominance? In a June 2007 Republican debate, Romney was asked about "the use of tactical nuclear weapons" to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb and responded that "You don't take options off the table, but what you do is stand back and say, 'What's going on here?' You see what's happening in Sudan and Afghanistan, in Iraq and Iran." In 2007 he also stated he would use "blockade, bombardment and surgical military strikes" against Iran if necessary. In September of that year he protested Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaking at the 62nd session of the United Nations General Assembly, stating that the invitation should be revoked and he should instead be greeted with an indictment under the Genocide Convention for threats against Israel. He stated that failure to act should lead the United States to reconsider its level of support and funding for the United Nations. In 2011, Romney advocated both overt and covert means to get Iran to stop its nuclear weapons development program. He said that “Ultimately, regime change is what’s going to be necessary.” In 2012 he called on President Obama “to impose crippling economic sanctions on the Iranian regime, support the Iranian dissidents, and convey through actions – not just words – that the military option is very real and very credible.” In June 2012, Romney said "I can assure you, if I'm President, the Iranians will have no question but that I would be willing to take military action if necessary to prevent them from becoming a nuclear threat to the world." In his July 2012 trip to Israel he said that preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear "capability" should be America's "highest national security priority." ( A clear indication that Romney intends to go to war with Iran ) Mitt Romney's web site says: "Mitt Romney will never make national-security decisions based upon electoral politics. Upon taking office, he will review our transition to the Afghan military by holding discussions with our commanders in the field. He will order a full inter-agency assessment of our military and assistance presence in Afghanistan to determine the level required to secure our gains and to train Afghan forces to the point where they can protect the sovereignty of Afghanistan from the tyranny of the Taliban. Withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan under a Romney administration will be based on conditions on the ground as assessed by our military commanders with the goal of completing the transition of combat operations to the Afghan Army by the end of 2014". That means 2 more years of war at 3.6 billion dollars a month, and countless deaths, and then Romneys web site says: "Withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan under a Romney administration will be based on conditions on the ground as assessed by our military commanders with the goal of completing the transition of combat operations to the Afghan Army by the end of 2014". With our progress in this conflict being as minimal as it has been, is 2014 really going to happen? Probably not. "Assessed by our military commanders" indicates that, if our commanders in the field are not sure the job is done, we will continue with the war, beyond 2014. So where does this all end? 8 Trillion in military build up, 53.3 billion for new Navy ships? All to continue in war with third world countries, that have no problem holding their own against the Super Power of the World, the United States? ****"Romney was asked about "the use of tactical nuclear weapons" to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb and responded that "You don't take options off the table"*** - Is Mitt Romney ready and willing to go into a nuclear war? He isn't saying NO. He said: "You don't take options off the table". How much more war do the people of this country have to put up with? How much more of our tax money has to be spent on killing? Apparently, our own economy, the homeless, the unemployed, the poor, the sick, the failing education system... all have to take a back seat to our military spending to continue wars in countries, whose biggest complaint with the U.S. is that, we are in their countries. Do our ground forces of more than 100,000 U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, have any real impact on our goal? We fight, kill, bomb and then give them food and supplies to rebuild? Does any of this make sense? Romney's willingness to consider the use of nuclear weapons seems to point the the fact that a nuclear war is quite possible, if he were to be elected. This is the United States of America, as seen through the eyes of the world. We invade, bomb and kill, all in the name of Freedom and Democracy. The Afghanistan war was started in the attempt to hunt down Osama Bin Laden for 9/11. The hunt is over, but the war continues. Now it is the war to place Democracy and Freedom, as the Afghanistan government. Is it our place to force our failing system of government into these countries? And how long after we leave, will it be before these governments are over thrown and they return to their former ways? Russian President Vladimir Putin has pointed to Romney's comment on Spain's economy, at the Presidential debate, as justification for Russia's opposition to America's missile defense plans in Europe, saying the statement has "strengthened Russia's positions in talks on this important and sensitive subject." Is President Putin saying, we will keep our missles, and see what Romney's plans are? Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/10/07/mitt-romney-spain-jab-adds-to-foreign-policy-woes/#ixzz28eR9hDsm When you cast your vote this year, remember one thing. The biggest threat to our country, or to the world, may not be from some 3rd world middle east country. Mitt Romney has already offended large groups of our own citizens, and several Ally countries with his own words and viewpoints. Mitt Romney himself could be our biggest national and global security risk.
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Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney

posted at October 15, 2012 5:37 PM EDT
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First: May 28, 2012
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  The Romney Ryan Plan in a nut shell. Give more to those who dont need it and less to those who do. Response to Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney:
Talk about a waste of taxpayers money is shipbuilding these days.  The LPD was a ship that supposed to take the place of two ships.  Before a piece of steel was cut the program was 800 million dollars over budget and when the ship was complete was not sea worthy due to defects.  We have no competition in shipbuilding anymore.  The shipyard that builds a certain ship is the only one in the country and can ask the price it wants.  Major defense contractors have put a monopoly on shipbuilding.  They take no pride in their work or their people and look for only short term goals of making money. In Response to President Willard "Mitt" Romney :
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Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney

posted at October 15, 2012 10:46 PM EDT
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First: December 26, 2011
Last: April 22, 2013
He is antichristian;

Acts of preferentialism for Islam:
May 2009 – While Obama does not host any National Day of Prayer event at the White House, he does host White House Iftar dinners in honor of Ramadan.
April 2010 – Christian leader Franklin Graham is disinvited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer Event because of complaints from the Muslim community.
April 2010 – The Obama administration requires rewriting of government documents and a change in administration vocabulary to remove terms that are deemed offensive to Muslims, including jihad, jihadists, terrorists, radical Islamic, etc.
August 2010 – Obama speaks with great praise of Islam and condescendingly of Christianity.
August 2010 – Obama went to great lengths to speak out on multiple occasions on behalf of building an Islamic mosque at Ground Zero, while at the same time he was silent about a Christian church being denied permission to rebuild at that location.
2010 – While every White House traditionally issues hundreds of official proclamations and statements on numerous occasions, this White House avoids traditional Biblical holidays and events but regularly recognizes major Muslim holidays, as evidenced by its 2010 statements on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.
October 2011 – Obama’s Muslim advisers block Middle Eastern Christians’ access to the White House.
February 2012 – The Obama administration makes effulgent apologies for Korans being burned by the U. S. military, 51 but when Bibles were burned by the military, numerous reasons were offered why it was the right thing to do.


Acts of hostility toward people of Biblical faith:
April 2008 – Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they “cling to guns or religion” and have an “antipathy to people who aren’t like them.”
February 2009 – Obama announces plans to revoke conscience protection for health workers who refuse to participate in medical activities that go against their beliefs, and fully implements the plan in February 2011.
April 2009 – When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus’ name be covered when he is making his speech.
May 2009 – Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House.
April 2009 – In a deliberate act of disrespect, Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican; of course, the pro-life Vatican rejected all three.
October 19, 2010 – Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about “the Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence – an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions.
November 2010 – Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is “E pluribus unum” rather than “In God We Trust” as established by federal law.
January 2011 – After a federal law was passed to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court.
February 2011 – Although he filled posts in the State Department, for more than two years Obama did not fill the post of religious freedom ambassador, an official that works against religious persecution across the world; he filled it only after heavy pressure from the public and from Congress.
April 2011 – For the first time in American history, Obama urges passage of a non-discrimination law that does not contain hiring protections for religious groups, forcing religious organizations to hire according to federal mandates without regard to the dictates of their own faith, thus eliminating conscience protection in hiring.
August 2011 – The Obama administration releases its new health care rules that override religious conscience protections for medical workers in the areas of abortion and contraception

Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney

posted at October 16, 2012 12:11 AM EDT
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In Response to President Willard "Mitt" Romney:

Your post is very informative and explains everything with clarity. In fact, I don't have to add to anything that you've said except that I completely agree with you.

I think most of us were still numb after 9-11 to realize that we were invading a country that had never attacked us. It seems that it was a stepping stone to invade Iraq as Bush said, after a year, that he didn't know or care where bin Laden was. Who can forget the TV stations broadcasting the military caravans on the road to Baghdad, and then the bombs attacking another country that had nothing to do with 9-11 that March night in 2003? Looking back, it was like a violent war movie but this was reality. Imagine all those Iraqis who were going about their lives to suddenly be attacked? 

I really believe that the truth about these wars are slowly leaking out, but most people are just too tired of wars to hold Bush and Cheney totally responsible. After almost 7,000 dead Americans, a lot more than that wounded, and trillions of $$$ wasted should be a wake-up call for voters. There will be no peace for us as long as we're occupying their lands.

Yet, Romney wants to flex his muscles to appeal to Republican ideologies that we must keep waging wars to maintain our excellence and supremacy in the world. Those that applaud this have no idea of what these wars are costing us. What Romney should say is that we're going to build up our defense to the tune of trillions of $$$, but that we'll institute a draft and levy a 10% war tax to pay for all of this. Instead, he's offering more tax cuts for the wealthy and outsourcing good jobs so that are young people have little choice except to join the military. 

For those foolish seniors who believe in wars, they should be ready to take a reduction in their SS payments and prepare to spend hundreds of $$$ more every month for Medicare. 



Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney

posted at October 16, 2012 10:27 AM EDT
Posts: 342
First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
Let's compare Obama's and Romney's Stances on the issues:

Mitt Romney ---------------------------------- Barack Obama

Pro NDAA --------------------------------------Pro NDAA
Pro Patriot Act -------------------------------Pro Patriot Act
Pro Agenda 21 ---------------------------------Pro Agenda 21
Pro TSA ---------------------------------------Pro TSA
Pro Carbon tax --------------------------------Pro Carbon tax
Pro Individual Mandate ------------------------Pro Individual Mandate
Pro Abortion ----------------------------------Pro Abortion
Pro Endless Undeclared Wars--------------------Pro Endless Undeclared Wars
Pro Occupation---------------------------------Pro Occupation
Pro Torture -----------------------------------Pro Torture
Pro Assassination -----------------------------Pro Assassination
Pro Drone Strikes -----------------------------Pro Drone Strikes
Pro Aid to Israel and Dictatorships -----------Pro Aid to Israel and Dictatorships
Pro Drug War---------------------------------- Pro Drug war
Pro Banker Bailouts ---------------------------Pro Banker Bailouts
Pro Federal Reserve ---------------------------Pro Federal Reserve
Pro IRS and IMF -------------------------------Pro IRS and IMF
Pro Corporatism -------------------------------Pro Corporatism
Pro NAFTA -------------------------------------Pro NAFTA
Pro Illegal Immigration -----------------------Pro Illegal Immigration
Pro North American Union ----------------------Pro North American Union
Pro Gun Grab ----------------------------------Pro Gun Grab
Funded by Goldman Sachs -----------------------Funded by Goldman Sachs
Lies to You -----------------------------------Lies To you

Hmmm...seems I'm having difficulty here coming up with differences...they appear to be the same candidate.
Of course there is no reason to think Mitt will be "Pro" on any of these issues tomorrow, with the way he flip flops on EVERYTHING.

There is no difference between The Republican Party and The Democrat Party.
A President Romney = A President Obama.

Romney isn't going to touch Roe Vs Wade. No president has since signed into law in 1973, it is too controversial, and they risk losing 50% of their voter base. The voter base is both parties main issue. Romney will claim pro-life, but Romney has claimed pro-choice in the past.

Romney's flip flopping is clearly a problem. How can you endorse this man, and not know what he "Really" is for or against? He offers lip service to who ever is asking the questions at the time. To me, that shows an unstable man. His budget plan doesn't work, and yet, he and Ryan swear it does. Numbers don't lie. 6 different studies show it doesn't work, or it favors the 1%.

Ann Romney is also showing that she thinks she is better than all of us. A recent interview, that has gone viral, shows her calling us all "You People". "Ann has told "you people" time and time again to leave Mitt alone, stop asking questions, and just be grateful that he's willing to run for president." I don't think we asked Mitt to run, I think Mitt is asking us for the job.
http://mashable.com/2012/07/19/ann-romney-you-people/

The Republican Party's belief in conservatism is a thing of the past. Republicans and Democrats are basically the same now.
For me to continue in my conservative belief, I will stay with the Libertarians. I'll "waste" my vote, as Republicans say, and I will remain open to new ideas. After all, look back at the last 5 elections. Are we gaining anything? I left the Republican Party behind, just before Bush's 2nd term. With the 2 parities becoming virtually the same, and catering to the banks and big business, expanding government and war, a new way of thinking is sorely needed. I'm not afraid of "New". Especially when this "New" way of thinking, is basically the conservative way of thinking that Republicans use to stand for.

Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney

posted at October 16, 2012 1:37 PM EDT
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First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 22, 2013
I understand what you are saying but the same issues you posted the people of the U.S. are supporting  at the moment.  These two parties are the dominent parties because most of the people back either of the two. There are other parties but little support.





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Let's compare Obama's and Romney's Stances on the issues: Mitt Romney ---------------------------------- Barack Obama Pro NDAA --------------------------------------Pro NDAA Pro Patriot Act -------------------------------Pro Patriot Act Pro Agenda 21 ---------------------------------Pro Agenda 21 Pro TSA ---------------------------------------Pro TSA Pro Carbon tax --------------------------------Pro Carbon tax Pro Individual Mandate ------------------------Pro Individual Mandate Pro Abortion ----------------------------------Pro Abortion Pro Endless Undeclared Wars--------------------Pro Endless Undeclared Wars Pro Occupation---------------------------------Pro Occupation Pro Torture -----------------------------------Pro Torture Pro Assassination -----------------------------Pro Assassination Pro Drone Strikes -----------------------------Pro Drone Strikes Pro Aid to Israel and Dictatorships -----------Pro Aid to Israel and Dictatorships Pro Drug War---------------------------------- Pro Drug war Pro Banker Bailouts ---------------------------Pro Banker Bailouts Pro Federal Reserve ---------------------------Pro Federal Reserve Pro IRS and IMF -------------------------------Pro IRS and IMF Pro Corporatism -------------------------------Pro Corporatism Pro NAFTA -------------------------------------Pro NAFTA Pro Illegal Immigration -----------------------Pro Illegal Immigration Pro North American Union ----------------------Pro North American Union Pro Gun Grab ----------------------------------Pro Gun Grab Funded by Goldman Sachs -----------------------Funded by Goldman Sachs Lies to You -----------------------------------Lies To you Hmmm...seems I'm having difficulty here coming up with differences...they appear to be the same candidate. Of course there is no reason to think Mitt will be "Pro" on any of these issues tomorrow, with the way he flip flops on EVERYTHING. There is no difference between The Republican Party and The Democrat Party. A President Romney = A President Obama. Romney isn't going to touch Roe Vs Wade. No president has since signed into law in 1973, it is too controversial, and they risk losing 50% of their voter base. The voter base is both parties main issue. Romney will claim pro-life, but Romney has claimed pro-choice in the past. Romney's flip flopping is clearly a problem. How can you endorse this man, and not know what he "Really" is for or against? He offers lip service to who ever is asking the questions at the time. To me, that shows an unstable man. His budget plan doesn't work, and yet, he and Ryan swear it does. Numbers don't lie. 6 different studies show it doesn't work, or it favors the 1%. Ann Romney is also showing that she thinks she is better than all of us. A recent interview, that has gone viral, shows her calling us all "You People". "Ann has told " you people " time and time again to leave Mitt alone, stop asking questions, and just be grateful that he's willing to run for president." I don't think we asked Mitt to run, I think Mitt is asking us for the job. http://mashable.com/2012/07/19/ann-romney-you-people/ The Republican Party's belief in conservatism is a thing of the past. Republicans and Democrats are basically the same now. For me to continue in my conservative belief, I will stay with the Libertarians. I'll "waste" my vote, as Republicans say, and I will remain open to new ideas. After all, look back at the last 5 elections. Are we gaining anything? I left the Republican Party behind, just before Bush's 2nd term. With the 2 parities becoming virtually the same, and catering to the banks and big business, expanding government and war, a new way of thinking is sorely needed. I'm not afraid of "New". Especially when this "New" way of thinking, is basically the conservative way of thinking that Republicans use to stand for.
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I understand what you are saying but the same issues you posted the people of the U.S. are supporting  at the moment.  These two parties are the dominent parties because most of the people back either of the two. There are other parties but little support. In Response to Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney :
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So, you are saying people are supporting these two parties because they are the only two with a solution? Seems that the solution these two parties keep coming up with, keeps failing. So, basically, it is the peoples fault we are, where we are. The fear of anything New. A new idea, may work, or it may not. Doing the same failed things over and over again, we know doesn't work. The media, the Debate commission, and the two big parties make sure to exclude third party candidates. Is this a free society? If a third party were given equal time, would it make a difference in the way people vote, or are we to remain in a 2 party dictatorship? And since the differences in Republicans and Democrats are so very minor, are they really 2 parties anymore?  I'm glad there were people like Alexander Graham Bell, and Thomas Edison, that were not afraid to fail, and then try new things. We know what doesn't work, so half the battle "should" be over.  Voting Republican, just because you are a Republican, or voting Democrat, just because you are Democrat, is not a good answer to the problem or reason to vote for a candidate anymore. Especially when neither has come up with any solution to the problems we face today. And in Romney's case, we don't know what he stands for from today to tomorrow the way he is always flipping. In the past, a flip flop would be political suicide. I'm lost as to how people can rally around him. I see flips as lies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9njHHyRI7g
I know lots of people that are Republican and Democrat. Some say they will not vote this year, some say they "will vote the party that our family has always voted for". And some are willing to go for the third party. For me, it's a clear choice. I can't vote for failure anymore. I'm ready to at least try something new.

Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney

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 Why do the republicans find it necessary to always get involved with Countries that have oil reserves ???n Response to Re: President Willard "Mitt" Romney:
In Response to President Willard "Mitt" Romney : Your post is very informative and explains everything with clarity. In fact, I don't have to add to anything that you've said except that I completely agree with you. I think most of us were still numb after 9-11 to realize that we were invading a country that had never attacked us. It seems that it was a stepping stone to invade Iraq as Bush said, after a year, that he didn't know or care where bin Laden was. Who can forget the TV stations broadcasting the military caravans on the road to Baghdad, and then the bombs attacking another country that had nothing to do with 9-11 that March night in 2003? Looking back, it was like a violent war movie but this was reality. Imagine all those Iraqis who were going about their lives to suddenly be attacked?  I really believe that the truth about these wars are slowly leaking out, but most people are just too tired of wars to hold Bush and Cheney totally responsible. After almost 7,000 dead Americans, a lot more than that wounded, and trillions of $$$ wasted should be a wake-up call for voters. There will be no peace for us as long as we're occupying their lands. Yet, Romney wants to flex his muscles to appeal to Republican ideologies that we must keep waging wars to maintain our excellence and supremacy in the world. Those that applaud this have no idea of what these wars are costing us. What Romney should say is that we're going to build up our defense to the tune of trillions of $$$, but that we'll institute a draft and levy a 10% war tax to pay for all of this. Instead, he's offering more tax cuts for the wealthy and outsourcing good jobs so that are young people have little choice except to join the military.  For those foolish seniors who believe in wars, they should be ready to take a reduction in their SS payments and prepare to spend hundreds of $$$ more every month for Medicare. 
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[QUOTE]He is antichristian; Acts of preferentialism for Islam:

What a bunch of rightwing nonsense.    The  Nat'l Day of prayer is only an excuse for lobbyist to meet up with congress and that was what IKE worried about when he first initiated it.   Obama is an anti-christ cause he wants everyone to have affordable healthcare and signed Lily Ledbetter act first off cause he wants women to have EQUALITY  ???  
GOOD GAWD  !!!    

If Obama is a muslim then why did he go after Osama when Georgie Bush had an opportunity to do so for 8 years  and left Afghanistan to attack Iraq  who had nothing to do with 911----The Bush family  was in business with the Bin Ladin Family and his Dad was having breakfast with the arab ambassador at the time of 911 they called him Bandar Bush....

If Obama is a muslim he's a durn bad one......he attended a Christian church long before anyone ever dreamed he could be president....he smoked pot as college kid as many do and still do   ----he smoked cigarrettes til recently and then allows his wife to wear sleeveless dresses and shorts-  now---tell me he's a muslim......

It's the cruelties against this black president that makes me furious and itt annoys the heck out women  that the right wing has a war on WOMEN.  

"Doctors give abortions to non-pregnant women" ( Tod Akin)
"Some girls rape easy" ( Roger Rivard )
Tried to convince a women in a Boston Hosp not to have a medical necessary abortion ( Mitt Romney)
"Unwanted or mistimed pregnancies are the choiceof women who should be charged with abuse and neglect" Wisconsin state senator Glenn Grothman (R-West Bend)
"Voted against equal pays cause men need the money more than women" Glenn Grothman amongst 60 republicans who voted against the bill)
"never heard of anyone getting pregnant by Statutory Rape" Steve King
Dismissed the idea the GOP is waging a "war on women" and calling it a "manufactured issue" was Mitch McConnell...... Republican women "Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison and Kelly Ayotte from New Hampshire and Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe from Maine I think would be the first to say -- and Lisa Murkowski from Alaska -- 'we don’t see any evidence of this.'"  ( republican women are stepford wives--make them wear a burka ---)
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