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Occupy Wall Street Movement It seems there is a misunderstanding by many people of why the demonstrators on Wall Street are demonstrating. Seniors are there because of cuts lawmakers are debating in
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 4:43 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement: I am a 78 year old taxpayer who grew up on a farm on the Mn. border with So. Dakota. I've seen and felt deprivation and hard work, as one of 12 children, whose parents had minimal educations, and whose eldest child died at age 12 of polio, before Dr Salk invented a vaccine that he distributed for free. They struggled through the Depression, lost their farm, were restarted through FDR's Federal Land Bank program, and through work in the WPA, survived a severe drought in the '30s, and even needed food help through the surplus commodities program. Nearly all of us 11 children got ourselves college educations, some with Masters Degrees and beyond. Several served in the military, mainly to earn the GI Bill. All have led productive lives, mainly in service industries, such as teaching, social work, spiritual positions and some in business. I am very discouraged by the Congress, especially Republicans, who block all reasonable progress, most who took a ridiculous pledge of allegiance to a few crazy people who think less revenue and less government can solve all problems. They can cite no country where that strategy works. They have no model. They are the henchmen of the greedy !%. If they prevail, this country will see another revolution, because 99 is more than 1. It is inevitable. Donald Strei, Minnesota Posted by duck3mn do the math, grandpa --if you shrink a monolithic federal government that overspends by trillions, make it adhere to a balanced budget and you'll have a government that need not tax the people as much; otherwise, it'll only grow bigger and tax more, especially if everyone clings to it like a calf on a cow's teat. we need less government, period. the 99, by the way, aren't paying as much in taxes as the 1 as your clown president has made you believe in his socialist ways. read this and gain some knowledge: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/16/hey-percenters-call-this-fair/?intcmp=obnetwork |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 4:48 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement: In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement : do the math, grandpa --if you shrink a monolithic federal government that overspends by trillions, make it adhere to a balanced budget and you'll have a government that need not tax the people as much; otherwise, it'll only grow bigger and tax more, especially if everyone clings to it like a calf on a cow's teat. we need less government, period. the 99, by the way, aren't paying as much in taxes as the 1 as your clown president has made you believe in his socialist ways. read this and gain some knowledge: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/16/hey-percenters-call-this-fair/?intcmp=obnetwork Posted by uechapa the top 1% in America own 37% of all the wealth.
That the top 1% enjoy more than 20% of all the income.
That since 1979, the average income of the top 1% increased by $700,000, while the average income for the bottom 90% actually decreased by $900.
And that this has given America the fifth most unequal distribution of wealth in the entire world.
So – who made it this way? The nurses, fast-food workers, teachers, cashiers, police officers and secretaries? Or the 1 percent at the top?
They think we will all go home and accept their corporate nation where corporate oligarchs awash in hundreds of millions of dollars are permitted to loot and pillage the last shreds of collective wealth, human capital and natural resources, a nation where the poor do not eat and workers do not work, a nation where the sick die and children go hungry, a nation where the consent of the governed and the voice of the people is a cruel joke.
Get back into your cages, they are telling us. Return to watching the lies, absurdities, trivia and celebrity gossip we feed you in 24-hour cycles on television. on FOX TV |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 4:49 PM EST
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this country was built out of protest. when people send messages to a congress incapable to act on the needs of 90% of it's citizens, then the time for protest is at our front doors. in truth 10% of the people control 90% of the money in America and finagle ways to pay the least possible amount in taxes, something has to be done and the occupiers are doing it. most protesters have good jobs and are not a bunch of revolutionary thugs. rather they are taxpayers who want to be able to send their children to college, which in my opinion , unless the child is taking courses in high paying and needed professions, it would be better to send the kid to a trade school than waste all that money on a low paying job in midle management. i suport the OWS and i also support unions that created the middle class back in the 1930s along with FDR. when 1/2 of our population is living as a low income or below the poverty level, something smells fishy in Denmark |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 4:55 PM EST
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unemployment compensation can now be drawn for 2 years and congress may extend it for another year. why? the longer it's extended the less the incentive for people to find employment, unless they used the 24 months to retrain and retool and become more 'employable', otherwise it's a waste of taxpayer money. this country is broke and sustaining extended programs like this only makes it worse for our 'nanny federal government'. where do the states, counties, parishes and municipalities come into play? oh, they're out with their hands out for more federal monies too... and then there are the OWSers crying foul and shrieking about greed and avarice as they denounce america and it's capitalistic ways yet most of them are drawing some kind of federal dollar while they're out there crying for waivers on their student loans and mortgages. if they're 'gonna march, march into DC and lean on the white house and congress but not with your hands out looking for freebies which require more money that we don't have. go cry for the 'change' that the idiot in office promised you and instead spent over $15-trillion in 3 years and didn't create one job for it. the ignorant OWSers are definitely barking up the wrong tree on this one. it's sad but true. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/16/hey-percenters-call-this-fair/?intcmp=obnetwork |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 4:55 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement: In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement : It is and always has been that the seniors are always the one taking a hit,we have paid our dues and deserve to bne treated fairly,but this is not the case,it appears that the Goverment finds it easy to attack the seniors rather then attack the wrongs withiin the Goverment is this was done we would have a balanced budget.The fair taxaxtion on EVERY ONE is the way it should be done The rich get richer and the poor get poorer what a shame Posted by shunshinemust And some people protesting are seniors-- because ALWAYS you have to protest not to be used over and over again. Everyone in the establishment (it is very vague WHO EXACTLY, just power and money) believes that seniors form that quiet, disciplined group - and that they always pay, do not complain and can be manipulated. NOT TRUE - and I'm really glad seeing seniors protesting in OWS movement. However, I do not expect the government to fix the broken system--it is a part of it after all! Wall Street has given money to Republicans and Democrats alike. That's why I support Ron Paul-the only honest and consistent politician, the only one not bought by establishment. However it has mainstream media and uses them against him (in a "gentle" way: like now: he is 1st in Iowa but media keep discussing "Mitt or Newt?") Very tricky... |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 5:03 PM EST
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Income taxes increase that divide into 2 groups of the rich and the poor the rich hire laweyers to find loopholes in the tax law i really agree with Ron Paul that we should cut government wasteful spending so we could not pay i ncome tax at all! |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 5:05 PM EST
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In Response to Occupy Wall Street Movement: Occupy Wall Street Movement It seems there is a misunderstanding by many people of why the demonstrators on Wall Street are demonstrating. Seniors are there because of cuts lawmakers are debating in Washington D.C . to Social Security and Medicare. Young people are there demonstrating cuts to education and wanting jobs created. There are people demonstrating rising health care cost. Native Americans are there to demonstrate for the unfair treatment they have received throughout the years by the Government. Others are demonstrating due to the large corporate bailouts. But for the entire group of demonstrators, the root cause of all of these problems is corporate greed and our lawmaker's refusal to recognize that the rich must pay their fair share. The demonstrators call these rich individuals the 1%. The 1% spend millions of dollars influencing our lawmakers and the policies they adopt. The 1% contribute millions to lawmakers' campaigns. The demonstrators want to know why they can't pay taxes. The 1% are getting richer even in these times but the middle class continues to decline. The 1% are cutting costs in their companies by eliminating jobs or sending them overseas where they get cheap labor. And our lawmakers allow these things to happen because they owe the 1% for campaign contributions and no telling what else. In reality the 1% own our lawmakers. What started as a small demonstration on Wall Street is growing and spreading to every major city in the United States and is now spreading all over the World. All due to one root cause and that is corporate greed and lawmakers' reluctance to control it. Our lawmakers must remember that the 99% I haven't mentioned yet are the majority of voters. Russell M. Creppel Posted by creppelrm Thank you,The media never gets it right. It seems to me that they are in the 1% group |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 5:09 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement: In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement : the top 1% in America own 37% of all the wealth . That the top 1% enjoy more than 20% of all the income. That since 1979, the average income of the top 1% increased by $700,000, while the average income for the bottom 90% actually decreased by $900. And that this has given America the fifth most unequal distribution of wealth in the entire world. So – who made it this way? The nurses, fast-food workers, teachers, cashiers, police officers and secretaries? Or the 1 percent at the top? They think we will all go home and accept their corporate nation where corporate oligarchs awash in hundreds of millions of dollars are permitted to loot and pillage the last shreds of collective wealth, human capital and natural resources, a nation where the poor do not eat and workers do not work, a nation where the sick die and children go hungry, a nation where the consent of the governed and the voice of the people is a cruel joke. Get back into your cages, they are telling us. Return to watching the lies, absurdities, trivia and celebrity gossip we feed you in 24-hour cycles on television. on FOX TV Posted by JANMB if i'm wealthy and i invest in america then i help create jobs. by investing i run the risk of making or losing my money; however, i do so in hopes of gaining a good rate of return and thus add to my wealth. i pay my taxes, as everyone should, on all income/revenues and capital gains and the rates are hefty. why am i not supposed to enjoy what i've worked for just like anyone else in america? i already pay more in taxes but why do i have to 'share' outside my own family? it's my money and my wealth and i earned legally and i enslaved no one in the process so why should i have to pay more than my 'fair share' since i'm already paying far more than my 'fair share'? you have a voice, it's called a vote so use it effectively and collectively through your representatives. there is still no free lunch in america 'cause it's being paid by taxpayers and i'm one of them. 'wanna change the status quo? --vote out the incumbents, for starters. |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 5:12 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement: In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement : do the math, grandpa --if you shrink a monolithic federal government that overspends by trillions, make it adhere to a balanced budget and you'll have a government that need not tax the people as much; otherwise, it'll only grow bigger and tax more, especially if everyone clings to it like a calf on a cow's teat. we need less government, period. the 99, by the way, aren't paying as much in taxes as the 1 as your clown president has made you believe in his socialist ways. read this and gain some knowledge: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/16/hey-percenters-call-this-fair/?intcmp=obnetwork Posted by uechapa to the rude persons that responded to this post ,I just have to say You must be part of the 1% and are unwilling to pay your fair share.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 5:17 PM EST
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I am cheering on most of the groups. They're telling it like it is! No authority has moved against Wall Street - are they too big or important to go after? Wall Street and major companies are to blame for most of the mess and they go scott-free, with bonuses yet!
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