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Occupy Wall Street Movement It seems there is a misunderstanding by many people of why the demonstrators on Wall Street are demonstrating. Seniors are there because of cuts lawmakers are debating in
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 2:54 PM EST
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In Response to Occupy Wall Street Movement: Right on Russell! Influence peddling of our legislature will only get worse with the John Roberts Supreme Court decision of open checkbooks for campaigns. It will come to a head in 2012. The Republican Tea Party has dragged the party to the radical right. Not so with the OWM, which so far has calmly opposed the anti middle class, the 1 percent. Most of the Media is ignoring OWM except when they get kicked out of parks or when some get arrested. Remember, our news media were the cheerleaders for the Iraq war. The OWM, to be successful, must finally back candidates for election, those candidates who stand for campaign finance and serious lobbyist reform. Such candidates without their hands in the til will be hard to find, because that's the way our system works.Quite possibly the OWM will have to find candidates of their own, and also generate their support, just as corporations and Big Oil will back their candidates. The OWM is growing, and has a long way to go to change our political landscape. Bart Lund |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 3:02 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement: Some say they don't know what the OCCUPY wants. Since words spoken are so easily forgotten, I think the signs that are printed up and carried around are a good idea. Anyone who can read will figure out what people all over this country and now globally are so angry about. It would be easy if there was only one-thing, but there are so many things that are plain wrong. When RYAN came out with his Republicanism budget that would have given more tax breaks to the richest and said to the rest of us who are the 99% that we need to do the sacrificing for the mistakes of WALL STREET. ....maybe that was "the last straw that broke the camel's back" Posted by JANMB The fed under the Obama administration loan big banks taxpayer money at little or no interest,then the banks buy fed bonds and make at least 3 % on the money they borrowed for nothing from the fed .The banks in turn pay little or no interest on savings that seniors and others have in their banks so this amounts to at least a 4 % tax on the savers. The economy & jobs depend on the consumers spending,s, this is 70 % of the true economy, when the fed lends big banks funds at no interest they hurt the consumers who are the largest part of the economy. The fed and the administration would like the consumers to use high interest credit cards and purchase stocks so they can be the first to go bankrupt or into poverty when these companies collapse from deceptive practices as the recent past has demonstrated. What the people should do is sell any stock they may have in these big banks and go to small banks and credit unions who will pay them a little interest. Only spend what you absolutely have to until the fed stops giving your money to big banks for little or no interest so they can pay you next to nothing while they get richer. Only use credit for what is absolutely necessary until the government balances their budget and cuts back on jobs,and golden parachutes for them-self and workers at the taxpayer expense.The ones that suffer when these big companies or banks go under is the taxpayers that hold their stock.!!! |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 3:03 PM EST
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The occupy wall street movement needs to move to occupy congress and the white house. The tragedy is that the politicians are only looking out for the politicians and to try to get re-elected and not the people who elected them. The occupying movement has a lot of different groups and issues but if you really think of what is causing the issue you will realize it is the politicians. If companies or special interest groups have lobbyist , they are lobbying the politicians and we need to ask why the politicians allow this to happen (oh , I guess it is so they can get re-elected). |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 3:05 PM EST
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The occupy wall street movement needs to move to occupy congress and the white house. The tragedy is that the politicians are only looking out for the politicians and to try to get re-elected and not the people who elected them. The occupying movement has a lot of different groups and issues but if you really think of what is causing the issue you will realize it is the politicians. If companies or special interest groups have lobbyist , they are lobbying the politicians and we need to ask why the politicians allow this to happen (oh , I guess it is so they can get re-elected). |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 3:20 PM EST
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The right wing likes to cry that they are over taxed. When Ike Eisenhower was president, the top tax rate was 90%. 90%!!! Now they whine after the largest tax cut in the top rate, ever, during the Bush administration. Since then, there were, year over year never enough jobs created to cover the increase in the workforce. Now they say that that you can't increase the taxes on the job creators because they won't create jobs. If they had been creating jobs over the last ten years, we wouldn't be in the pickle w are in now. War is supposed to create jobs. Bush started two. Still no jobs. Are you getting a clue? There are other forces in operation here. Increased technology and exporting jobs. Major changes need to occur to account for these forces. First! Do not look to the right wing for anyhelp. The stock market is doing well and all of the big boys are getting their bonuses. They have a cheap, hungry, and desperate workforce. It doesn't get any better for them. Basic changes have to come from the 99%. This will be real class warfare. The class war has been going on for a long time. The 88% did not organize and fight what was happening. Remember, we were promised great prosperity and shorter working hours. You now see what we got. It is past time for Medicare for all, getting the money out of politics, term limits, and much more in regulating business. It is time we all share in the prosperity. |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 3:22 PM EST
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These people are heroes, they are spelling out the problems in our country. The movement has growm and there are over one thousand groups of "occupy" today. I think they are brave and thoughtful. Why hasn't the media taken notice of all this. Maybe because they are also "bought and sold" by the powers that be. |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 3:24 PM EST
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In Response to Occupy Wall Street Movement: Until the Occupy Wall Street movement develops into a more organized and recognizable formal organization it will be difficult for the public at large to accept the movement. It seems to be slowly evolving and hopefully it has the staying power to eventually become a power to reckon with. |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 3:31 PM EST
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not all is good with the OWS movement --there are a lot of deadbeats simply looking for a handout wanting their student loans waived, along with their mortgages, etc. the ones who should be pressured are Congress and each of every OWS member should also write/call/visit their congressional representatives to push for their ideals. i do resent the 'robin hood' mentality that has overtaken the OWS movement. we do in fact need tax reform to eliminate all loopholes; however, in doing so, if the quest is in fact equity, then it may mean that some of the lower income 'loopholes' will be squelched also --we can't have it both ways, take from the rich but not from everyone else, and call it fair and equitable 'cause it's not. congress is the legislative branch therefore that is where the OWS movement needs to press and one easy way is to not re-elect incumbents, including the charlatan acting as president now. |
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement
posted at December 19, 2011 3:33 PM EST
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I don't know why we feel the need to have so-o-o-o much conversation about this subject. Look around........see all the homeless, jobless & struggling going on ? Obviously change is necessary to eliminate some of these problems and if it takes a group like OCCUPY to bring more attention to all the greed........MORE POWER TO THEM ! |
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