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Occupy Wall Street Movement It seems there is a misunderstanding by many people of why the demonstrators on Wall Street are demonstrating. Seniors are there because of cuts lawmakers are debating in
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Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement

posted at December 28, 2011 11:59 AM EST
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Although we live in a democracy we must accept personal responsibility for our own actions.  Between Obama, Bloomberg, and the ACLU we have been discraced and property destroyed with this behavior.  Yes there are problems - that is why we vote and have laws and methods to enforce the laws.  Lets not take maters into our own hands yet - but correct it at election time.  The 99% who sit on their hands and then vote without knowledge but emotion are hurting all of us. 

Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement

posted at January 13, 2012 10:38 AM EST
Posts: 12532
First: February 29, 2008
Last: May 17, 2013
In Response to Occupy Wall Street Movement:
Occupy Wall Street Movement It seems there is a misunderstanding by many people of why the demonstrators on Wall Street are demonstrating. Seniors are there because of cuts lawmakers are debating in Washington D.C . to Social Security and Medicare. Young people are there demonstrating cuts to education and wanting jobs created. There are people demonstrating rising health care cost. Native Americans are there to demonstrate for the unfair treatment they have received throughout the years by the Government. Others are demonstrating due to the large corporate bailouts. But for the entire group of demonstrators, the root cause of all of these problems is corporate greed and our lawmaker's refusal to recognize that the rich must pay their fair share. The demonstrators call these rich individuals the 1%. The 1% spend millions of dollars influencing our lawmakers and the policies they adopt. The 1% contribute millions to lawmakers' campaigns. The demonstrators want to know why they can't pay taxes. The 1% are getting richer even in these times but the middle class continues to decline. The 1% are cutting costs in their companies by eliminating jobs or sending them overseas where they get cheap labor. And our lawmakers allow these things to happen because they owe the 1% for campaign contributions and no telling what else. In reality the 1% own our lawmakers. What started as a small demonstration on Wall Street is growing and spreading to every major city in the United States and is now spreading all over the World. All due to one root cause and that is corporate greed and lawmakers' reluctance to control it. Our lawmakers must remember that the 99% I haven't mentioned yet are the majority of voters. Russell M. Creppel
Posted by creppelrm


Hi Russell ...    Here's an update from OCCUPY and from Nation for Change..

On January 20, the anniversary eve of the Citizens United Supreme Court ruling, which further privileged corporations over people in our Constitution, NationofChange along with groups across the country are uniting for a day of mass action centered in the San Francisco Financial District.

In the same way that the world has been forced to recognize the practical and symbolic occupation of Wall St. in New York City, we will once again command the national narrative through mass occupation, mobilization, non-violent direct action and disobedience.

Our goals:


  • To end corporate person-hood! Corporations are NOT people; Money is NOT speech.
  • To expose how Wall St. operates in our midst, attacking our communities, homes, livelihoods, education, environment, democracy, and health.
  • To demand that banks stop foreclosing on our neighbors and evicting them from their homes for profit.
  • To contribute toward ongoing community fights for social and economic justice against banks and corporations.
  • To build and mobilize a broad-based, strategic mass movement asserting the people power of the 99% in San Francisco, the Bay Area, California, and the region.

Join us in San Francisco on January 20th near the ice skating rink at Bradley Manning/Justin Herman Plaza beginning at 6:00am to fight back against the Wall St. banks and corporations that are assaulting ourselves, our environment, and our communities.

Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement

posted at January 14, 2012 9:47 AM EST
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In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement:
The “Occupiers” are Right   I think it’s no secret that the Occupy Wall Street movement is right, I just think they are not sure why, or what to do about it.   A short history lesson should help.   It was Henry Ford who said, “There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible.”   He believed that every one of his employees should be able to afford the products he was manufacturing.   Taking this to heart, he worked with the unions to set the United States on the road to prosperity and helped make the US the greatest nation in the world.   But in the early 60’s, the morals of corporate leadership started to change.   It began with the idea that products could be made cheaper in countries that had lower labor costs.   The electronics industry was the first to leave the US.   It went to Japan, where we taught the Japanese the technology to make the consumer products that would be imported and sold in the US.   We even taught them how to build automobiles.   Consumer prices didn’t go down, so the difference in the cost to manufacture and the selling price became profits for the corporations.   The CEO’s that sent the factory jobs over seas became corporate heroes.   In the 70’s, the Middle East wanted to get into the high profits arena, so they tripled the price of a gallon of gasoline virtually overnight and that has helped make Exxon the most profitable company on the planet.   This put increased pressure on the corporations to maintain profits so that in the 80’s even more industries, seeing the success that the electronics industry was having, started to move more factory jobs out of the US.   By this time, however, the Japanese people had reached a level of prosperity that rivalled the US, and they no longer had the lowest labor cost.   The Japanese started to move their manufacturing to China.   The cost of labor was cheap and natural resources were plentiful, since China had no consumer market to speak of.   Again, seeing the success that the Japanese were having in China and South East Asia, the US corporations started transferring US factory jobs there.   Soon, the furniture industry, the clothing industry, and even the toy industry followed the electronics industry to Asia, all in the name of profits for the US corporations.   It was in the late 90’s – early 2000’s that the folly of sending your consumer products manufacturing jobs to another country hit Japan.   Their economy started to falter and has yet to recover.   The US didn’t get caught up in Japan’s turmoil at the time because we had the infamous Internet bubble that was going to make everyone in America rich.   We know how that turned out.   To keep the economy going after the Internet bubble, Congress and the Federal Bank came up with a scheme to make housing a consumer product.   The effects of that boondoggle will be around for years, as the banks still have millions of foreclosed homes in their inventory that they won’t put on the market until the US economy turns around, if ever.   After all, putting the houses on the market would only further depress housing prices and put even more people “under water” in their mortgages.   At the same time, there’s nothing in particular the banks can do with whatever cash that they would get from selling the houses.   The last thirty or so years of off-shoring “value-added” manufacturing jobs of consumer products from the US is what has caused the disparity in incomes that the Occupy Wall Street people are protesting.   The Government’s own figures show that the incomes of the top 1% have increased 275% during this time while the incomes of the lowest 80% has improved only 3%.   But, there is some good news.   Even though the late Steve Jobs’ Apple factory in China is still little more than a “sweat shop”, the Chinese factory workers now want to be able to afford the products that they have been manufacturing for years, so they have started unions of sorts and have had strikes to force the US corporations to increase their wages.   The Communist government likes this idea because they get increased payroll taxes when the workers’ wages go up.   You would think that our Congress would understand this principle and do whatever they could to get consumer product manufacturing back in the US instead of creating “free” trade agreements with the countries that take the high paying factory jobs from us and then allow the finished products into the US with no taxes or tariffs imposed.   The US is the only country that does this.   Almost all of our “free” trade partners, and in particular China, have “local content” regulations that literally ban finished goods from being imported into the country.   That’s one reason why you see the likes of Ford, GM and Caterpillar building manufacturing plants in China.   Our Congress finally did pass a “local content” regulation recently with regards to, of all things, windmills.   The CEO of Vestas, the Danish company that manufactures windmills in the US, has stated that this boondoggle will disappear once Congress lets the alternate energy subsidy expire next year, the same as what happened to the solar panel industry this year.   In any case, the wage increases being demanded by the Chinese factory workers are making the US corporations look at bringing factory jobs back to the North American continent.   Reshoring is the term being used to describe the process of bringing the jobs back, however, Mexico is where the jobs most probably will be located.   Wouldn’t it be ironic if Congress passed legislation to remove the fence between the US and Mexico to make it easier for Americans to migrate illegally into Mexico to work the jobs that their grand fathers and fathers worked that made America great?
Posted by kac80020


Hi, I wanted to comment on your post. It's all true. It is getting worse and you made me CRY. It is soooo sad. I feel like we the United States  has been going down hill so fast,I don't see how we can get back up.I read something the other day. It was called Our president ,How he was the first to do all these things.   He was the first president that made an apology tour.  First to not wear the flag pin on his suit coat,the first president that wouldn't salute our flag. It went on and on. I was so saddened by this. It had about 40 things that he was first  in. I didn't vote for this president because I felt I didn't know enough about him. I think alot of people voted for this man and didn't know him either. He's not even a Christian. I'm not saying these things to be mean. I just don't see how a man can be our president and seem like he is not supporting us. We need a strong patriotic president to lead this country. Not one that hired 50 or so czars to work with him? We need leaders in the white house. If we don't get better men to lead us,we'll never get back on target. Thank You for listening. I just needed to vent  a little bit. I'm 60 years old and I am very scared! Mzmarty (Texas)

Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement

posted at January 16, 2012 11:53 PM EST
Posts: 533
First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 22, 2013
I could think of nothing better then joining The Movement in San Francisco but will have to pass on this great invitation due to pressing issues home.  Although I am quite sure a lot of people reading your post can make it and probably live closer then I do here in Louisiana.  This is a great opportunity to make a difference and show solidarity.  If anyone is fortunate enough to make the event please write and let us know of their experience. 
 







Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement:
In Response to Occupy Wall Street Movement : Hi Russell ...    Here's an update from OCCUPY and from Nation for Change.. On January 20, the anniversary eve of the Citizens United Supreme Court ruling, which further privileged corporations over people in our Constitution, NationofChange along with groups across the country are uniting for a day of mass action centered in the San Francisco Financial District. In the same way that the world has been forced to recognize the practical and symbolic occupation of Wall St. in New York City, we will once again command the national narrative through mass occupation, mobilization, non-violent direct action and disobedience. Our goals: To end corporate person-hood! Corporations are NOT people; Money is NOT speech. To expose how Wall St. operates in our midst, attacking our communities, homes, livelihoods, education, environment, democracy, and health. To demand that banks stop foreclosing on our neighbors and evicting them from their homes for profit. To contribute toward ongoing community fights for social and economic justice against banks and corporations. To build and mobilize a broad-based, strategic mass movement asserting the people power of the 99% in San Francisco, the Bay Area, California, and the region. Join us in San Francisco on January 20th near the ice skating rink at Bradley Manning/Justin Herman Plaza beginning at 6:00am to fight back against the Wall St. banks and corporations that are assaulting ourselves, our environment, and our communities .
Posted by JANMB

Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement

posted at January 17, 2012 11:36 AM EST
Posts: 12532
First: February 29, 2008
Last: May 17, 2013
In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement:
In Response to Re: Occupy Wall Street Movement : Hi, I wanted to comment on your post. It's all true. It is getting worse and you made me CRY. It is soooo sad. I feel like we the United States  has been going down hill so fast,. I didn't vote for this president because I felt I didn't know enough about him. I think alot of people voted for this man and didn't know him either. He's not even a Christian. I'm not saying these things to be mean. I just don't see how a man can be our president and seem like he is not supporting us. We need a strong patriotic president to lead this country. Not one that hired 50 or so czars to work with him? We need leaders in the white house. If we don't get better men to lead us,we'll never get back on target. Thank You for listening. I just needed to vent  a little bit. I'm 60 years old and I am very scared! Mzmarty (Texas)
Posted by Mzmarty2u


How do you get to be SO WRONG about so many things.    After 20 years  even PRIOR to becoming PREZ   I do believe Obama is a Christian but that's not supposed to matter----this is a country that separates GOVT from RELIGION  we are NOT the middle east. 
EVERY president hired "CZARS" if that's what you wannna call heads of departments.    You want this country to    GET back on TARGET TO WHAT ..????  The kind of country republicans gave us after 8 years of  lousy--governing...lousy stock market....TWO WARS.....handing the country over to the 1% .... with low taxes that created more deficit for us.   
NO WAY ....we are on the way back only the republicans are getting in the WAY.  
There are so many things I could list-----but here's one big stupid idea which the republicans want more  deregulation when in 2008 we fell thru the floor because of deregulation and even Greenspan testified before the Senate that he was all wrong about deregulation.   
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