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The Occupy movement is right on in pointing out that we no longer live in a democracy in this oountry, but instead a plutocracy controlled by the few very wealthy. The only solution to many of our pro
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Occupy groups have it right, but don't have a plan to change

posted at December 20, 2011 7:41 AM EST
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The Occupy movement is right on in pointing out that we no longer live in a democracy in this oountry, but instead a plutocracy controlled by the few very wealthy. The only solution to many of our problems, all the way from invading countries and continuing wars for litle reason, to providing affordable universal health care, getting a workable energy sustainability plan in place, providing adeuquate education for all....etc  is to get private money out of elections. Beginning about 1970 our country started in the direction of being the most economically unequal of any globally.  Now it is to the point that even reasonable people are ready to take up arms.

The politicians in office will not change anything. The only way I can see is to have constitutional emendments in place by the next couple of elections so the people can again take charge. This is not going to be easy and will be fought by those with huge wealth.
Yell
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable
John F. Kennedy



 

Re: Occupy groups have it right, but don't have a plan to change

posted at December 20, 2011 8:21 AM EST
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Evidence that the Occupy groups do NOT "have it right:
1.  Their actions hurt the very people they claim to support -- they have hurt lots of people's incomes, they have cost taxpayers millions of dollars in clean-up fees, they are targeting only certain successful capitalists while basically glorifying others (all the gizmos they use were created by very rich people (who created jobs for middle class people who design them, produce them, distribute them, market them, sell them, etc.))
2.  Their actions de-emphasize the role of unions in undermining the competitive strength of this country by driving jobs overseas, by basically bankrupting state financial systems, etc.
3.  They are not focused where they need to be -- that den of iniquity called governmenmt.  The paychecks they should be going after are the paychecks of our elected officials and their bureaucracies.  If they want to occupy something, have them occupy the White House grounds and the Capitol Building (and the corresponding seats of state/local government).  There you will find ground zero for the debilitating illnesses that may well lead to the destruction of our way of life.

SAME THING WAS SAID ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS MARCHES--- SAME ABOUT WOMEN'S VOTE --SOME DON'T WANT THE OCCUPY EITHER

posted at December 20, 2011 8:41 AM EST
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In Response to Re: Occupy groups have it right, but don't have a plan to change:
Evidence that the Occupy groups do NOT "have it right: 1.  Their actions hurt the very people they claim to support -- they have hurt lots of people's incomes, they have cost taxpayers millions of dollars in clean-up fees, they are targeting only certain successful capitalists while basically glorifying others (all the gizmos they use were created by very rich people (who created jobs for middle class people who design them, produce them, distribute them, market them, sell them, etc.)) 2.  Their actions de-emphasize the role of unions in undermining the competitive strength of this country by driving jobs overseas, by basically bankrupting state financial systems, etc. 3.  They are not focused where they need to be -- that den of iniquity called governmenmt.  The paychecks they should be going after are the paychecks of our elected officials and their bureaucracies.  If they want to occupy something, have them occupy the White House grounds and the Capitol Building (and the corresponding seats of state/local government).  There you will find ground zero for the debilitating illnesses that may well lead to the destruction of our way of life.
Posted by dmorelly


Re: Occupy groups have it right, but don't have a plan to change

posted at December 20, 2011 11:08 AM EST
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Last: December 20, 2011

The core, the nucleus that started the 99% movement is justice and fairness.  This is a simple message but its impacts are many and complex.

Re: Occupy groups have it right, but don't have a plan to change

posted at December 20, 2011 11:35 AM EST
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Have you read "END THE FED" and "REVOLUTION" by Ron Paul? This is a plan!

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