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Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?
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I stay up late nights and often watch C-span. Last night, they were covering an open forum in some church, I dont know where. There was good attendance, maybe a couple hundred, and everyon
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Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?
posted at February 22, 2012 9:20 PM EST
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I stay up late nights and often watch C-span. Last night, they were covering an open forum in some church, I dont know where. There was good attendance, maybe a couple hundred, and everyone had oportunity to give their personal views on a wide range of subjects or concerns. They also had 3 guests seated on stage. After long discussion about various topics, these three guests started talking about the necessity of altering our form of government. They said or implied that Capitalism and the Constitution isn't working any more and we need to move away from Democracy and suspend open elections. Our system does seem to be broken right now but should we discard a Republic and Constitution our founders fought, died and sacrificed so much for? That multitudes of brave citizens have supported and died for over the cource of our nations history? Granted, it needs fixing. Do we need to do something so radical as to replace it? Is their movement beeing Hijacked? Charles Turner |
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posted at February 23, 2012 9:27 AM EST
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All we need is to restore America to democratic country following constitution! System is broken because we have drifted away from it. American rights are chipped away by patriot Act or NDAA. Government is bloated and USA plays imperium by being the police of the world. this is NOT the constitution! these two were idiots! |
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Re: Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?
posted at February 25, 2012 11:56 AM EST
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In Response to Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?: I stay up late nights and often watch C-span. Last night, they were covering an open forum in some church, I dont know where. There was good attendance, maybe a couple hundred, and everyone had oportunity to give their personal views on a wide range of subjects or concerns. They also had 3 guests seated on stage. After long discussion about various topics, these three guests started talking about the necessity of altering our form of government. They said or implied that Capitalism and the Constitution isn't working any more and we need to move away from Democracy and suspend open elections. Our system does seem to be broken right now but should we discard a Republic and Constitution our founders fought, died and sacrificed so much for? That multitudes of brave citizens have supported and died for over the cource of our nations history? Granted, it needs fixing. Do we need to do something so radical as to replace it? Is their movement beeing Hijacked? Charles Turner Posted by CharlesTurner66 Anyone who believes our system is working for the 99% is in denial. Our founders were brilliant for their TIME but some kept slaves and didn't believe women should vote so to defer to them for modern living is ridiculous in my opinion. WE need to regulate the banks, we need to overhaul immigration, we need to end corporate welfare including at the Pentagon, we need to bring troops home from... everywhere, we need to end the drug war, and we need to put terrorists and other human rights violators on trial in civilian courts, starting with Dick Cheney. Its about time that clerk gets $20 an hour and not minimum wage so she can be self-reliant.......but the opposition who is without a soul don't want to have that happen cause it'll take money out of their pockets for the material goods and later when the clerk is in need of social security the same people will resent that too. |
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Re: Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?
posted at February 25, 2012 4:15 PM EST
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The constitution is one of the greatest works written, but as Jan points out some of the writers of the constitution held opinions that were wrong. However they buillt in a correction factor which is the amendment processs. If you read the constitution you wil not find anything that barred woman from voting but that was more the feeling of society not something blocked by the constitution. It is a shame that something like the 19th amendment even became necessary since there is nothing in citizen that blocked a woman from voting. Two of the areas that showed the forsight of those that wrote the constitution in my opinion are the following 2: 1. We are a Republic - this helps us to avoid mob rule where the majority can dictate to the minority. 2. Amendment process - this alone says to me that those who wrote the constitution meant it to be a static constitution not a living constituton. If people want to modify it, they need to follow the amendment process. Would I want this constitiution just dropped and rewritten from scratch? A definite no. I would be concerned about what people may attempt to do to it. We have problems in this country, but let us not throw something out that gives us a chance of liberty in this country |
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Re: Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?
posted at February 26, 2012 9:26 PM EST
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Jan-You would put human rights violators on trial in civilian courts, starting with Dick Cheney. |
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posted at February 27, 2012 1:27 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?: Jan-You would put human rights violators on trial in civilian courts, starting with Dick Cheney. Obama for drone-killing this16 year-old American (Awlaki's son)? Posted by Astra2012 "During a February 14, 2010 appearance on ABC's This Week, Cheney reiterated his criticism of the Obama administration's policies for handling suspected terrorists, criticizing the "mindset" of treating "terror attacks against the United States as criminal acts as opposed to acts of war".[119] In a May 2, 2011, interview with ABC News, Cheney praised the Obama administration for the operation that resulted in the killing of Osama bin Laden.[135]" |
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Re: Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?
posted at February 28, 2012 7:37 AM EST
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In Response to Re: Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?: Jan-You would put human rights violators on trial in civilian courts, starting with Dick Cheney. Obama for drone-killing this16 year-old American (Awlaki's son)? Posted by Astra2012 FYI The DRONE attacks began with the Bush ADM . If you agree we have been engaging in a WAR ON TERROR-----the Drone attacks killed many of al Qaeda's terrorists leaders and the membership of al Qaeda has been declared practically non-existent. . The war on terror most agree should have been conducted in this way....or using special forces. Not the BUSH invasion of IRAQ and Afghanistan with hundreds of thousands of military.....and the MESS that OBAMA has to clean up now.
War does not spare the innocent....and in addition .many of our finest and bravest have sacrificed the ultimate ........not the Ron Paul's or any of the republican candidates.....The Poor Go To War While The Rich Run Away! |
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Re: Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?
posted at February 29, 2012 3:02 PM EST
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I am not going to defend the war in Iraq, since I was opposed to it before it started which some of my friends did not like. When the films supposedly showing evidence of the weapons of mass destruction, I was not convinced. As a country we would probably be better off if Iran and Iraq were still fighting each other. I had more concern about Iran than Iraq as far as the safety of the US. Some argue that leaving Iraq alone would have been a mistake, but I am not sure about that. Wish we could leave them fight among themselves, but the president of Iran has made outrageous statements about the US. Afganistan was a staging ground for al-Qaeda. We should have not taken the war to Iraq. With Afgan soldiers and police killing our soldiers, I think we should just pull out but watch closely the redevelopment of the Taliban and al-Qaeda. I posted somewhere else that it is the Congress who is supposed to declare war. To my knowledge this has not been done for either country. A problem with al-Qaeda is that they spring up in a number of locations so they do not have a country other than using Afganistan for a period of time and some other countries now where they have strong footholds. It was Afganistan who let them establish their bases. Certain criteria should be met before a war is declared, but that has not been the case for a long time. |
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Re: Nintynine Percenters: Is Their Movement Being Hijacked?
posted at February 29, 2012 7:08 PM EST
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Again Congress is at fault " 2001: In the wake of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Congress passed Public Law 107-40, authorizing President George W. Bush to "use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons." For the first time, "organizations and persons" are specified in a Congressional authorization to use force pursuant to the War Powers Resolution, rather than just nations. 2002: Congress authorized President George W. Bush to use force against Iraq, pursuant to the War Powers Resolution, in Public Law 107-243." |
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