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posted at January 14, 2013 12:47 PM EST
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First: January 14, 2013
Last: January 14, 2013
Ok - I was just listening to the Pres on TV telling everyone we need to pay our bills (Govt).   Yell  Isn't that what we all do. It is beyond my brain cells how we have to borrower money to pay the bills. If you and I did that we would not be able to borrower any money from any source.  IDEA. to get some money lets stop paying all the congressmen and senators plus the pres and vise pres and then just maybe they will do something to solve this problem  Laughing.   There was a news clip that suggest not paying SS and the military personnel.  I don't know about you but that better not happen or us people living on SS only will be living on the streets in 30 days.  Let's hope that AARP is in Washington to stop any idea to not issuing our SS payments.

Re: New Debt Limit

posted at January 14, 2013 4:31 PM EST
Posts: 938
First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
And what would seniors do if they stopped SS?Protest and occupy?
Taxes increased for everyone- not just the rich- because our government loves spending- did WE have a say?

Re: New Debt Limit

posted at January 15, 2013 9:15 AM EST
Posts: 188
First: November 6, 2009
Last: January 21, 2013
In Response to New Debt Limit:
Ok - I was just listening to the Pres on TV telling everyone we need to pay our bills (Govt).      Isn't that what we all do. It is beyond my brain cells how we have to borrower money to pay the bills. If you and I did that we would not be able to borrower any money from any source.  IDEA. to get some money lets stop paying all the congressmen and senators plus the pres and vise pres and then just maybe they will do something to solve this problem   .   There was a news clip that suggest not paying SS and the military personnel.  I don't know about you but that better not happen or us people living on SS only will be living on the streets in 30 days.  Let's hope that AARP is in Washington to stop any idea to not issuing our SS payments.
Posted by debra7899


Please do not believe what the President says . . . if you do believe his campaign type of promises, then you are missing some common sense.  He does not care about the debt and just wants to kep spending.  If you disagree, please provide actual budget items he wll reduce.  However, we can also not find reduction in the democratic Senate, because they are evidently too ignorant to follow the law and pass a budget.

Re: New Debt Limit

posted at January 16, 2013 1:35 PM EST
Posts: 342
First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
In Response to Re: New Debt Limit:
In Response to New Debt Limit : Please do not believe what the President says . . . if you do believe his campaign type of promises, then you are missing some common sense.  He does not care about the debt and just wants to kep spending.  If you disagree, please provide actual budget items he wll reduce.  However, we can also not find reduction in the democratic Senate, because they are evidently too ignorant to follow the law and pass a budget.
Posted by lschlueter


I don't believe anything said by Republican or Democrat Politicians. Romney hit the ground running with his lies. Bush's entire term was filled with lies. I don't know how you can stand behind the Republicans, when they have turned their back on the people of the country, except for the wealthy. As far as spending, Bush, took a surplus and turned in into a one of the biggest deficit's ever. We just saw "The Fiscal Cliff Show" and Boehner wanted to tax the middle class and close the "Mythical Loopholes" that Romney kept talking about. If Obama wasn't there to force taxing the rich we would have a greater increase on the middle class and poor. It is said the reason Romney lost was because Republicans would not vote for him. Getting Obama out should have been easy, if the Republicans cared about all of the people and this country, and not just the rich. I don't know how Republicans keep turning a blind eye to fact. There is no war on terror. This entire sham we are involved in is a Blood for Oil. We built 4 new military bases in Iraq. Why? Protect our oil interests. This was the Republican plan from the beginning.  And the war mongers will continue to keep us in the middle east. They make big money investing in defense contracts.

As far as spending, geez, even your saint, Ronald Reagan spent like crazy. He raised the debt ceiling 17 times and tripled his deficit. He even apologized for it in his exit speech. So, don't go blaming it all on Obama. He's just another player in the Democrat and Republican wheel of failure.

Re: New Debt Limit

posted at January 16, 2013 7:35 PM EST
Posts: 188
First: November 6, 2009
Last: January 21, 2013
In Response to Re: New Debt Limit:
In Response to Re: New Debt Limit : I don't believe anything said by Republican or Democrat Politicians. Romney hit the ground running with his lies. Bush's entire term was filled with lies. I don't know how you can stand behind the Republicans, when they have turned their back on the people of the country, except for the wealthy. As far as spending, Bush, took a surplus and turned in into a one of the biggest deficit's ever. We just saw "The Fiscal Cliff Show" and Boehner wanted to tax the middle class and close the "Mythical Loopholes" that Romney kept talking about. If Obama wasn't there to force taxing the rich we would have a greater increase on the middle class and poor. It is said the reason Romney lost was because Republicans would not vote for him. Getting Obama out should have been easy, if the Republicans cared about all of the people and this country, and not just the rich. I don't know how Republicans keep turning a blind eye to fact. There is no war on terror. This entire sham we are involved in is a Blood for Oil. We built 4 new military bases in Iraq. Why? Protect our oil interests. This was the Republican plan from the beginning.  And the war mongers will continue to keep us in the middle east. They make big money investing in defense contracts. As far as spending, geez, even your saint, Ronald Reagan spent like crazy. He raised the debt ceiling 17 times and tripled his deficit. He even apologized for it in his exit speech. So, don't go blaming it all on Obama. He's just another player in the Democrat and Republican wheel of failure.
Posted by wisemagic
I ask for just a few specifics . . . as expected, a liberal is unable to state any facts . . . it is amazing how you continue to show the lack of intelligence.

Re: New Debt Limit

posted at January 16, 2013 8:26 PM EST
Posts: 342
First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
In Response to Re: New Debt Limit:
In Response to Re: New Debt Limit : I ask for just a few specifics . . . as expected, a liberal is unable to state any facts . . . it is amazing how you continue to show the lack of intelligence.
Posted by lschlueter


As I suspected, you do not read very well. I said I do not believe anything from Democrats or Republicans. I am a Libertarian. We actually want to change government. Mainly, we want to take over the White House, and then let people Live Free as was the intention of our forefathers. We actually want to cut wasteful spending, and balance the budget. But, since you asked, here is a page on Obama's spending.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/12/11/president-obamas-record-and-proposals-cutting-spending

I'm sure you will find bias, as it is a whitehouse.gov page.

Let me ask you, where were Bush's spending cuts? Clinton actually did cut defense spending. Where were Reagan's Cuts?
Why is it that all of a sudden, everything is Obama's fault? The Republicans have done nothing wrong in spending? Is that what you are trying to tell me? Because that's total BS my friend.

I don't care how you twist it or how you want to stack the facts, both parties are spending like there is no tomorrow. Romney even put it out in everyone's face that he wanted to waste 2 TRILLION right off the bat. So don't come telling me that Republican Conservatism is the answer, because that to is pure BS.