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Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
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Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at June 12, 2012 7:35 AM EDT
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First: December 21, 2011 Last: May 23, 2013 |
At least 3 articles have appeared in the NY Times going into detail about operations that were classified. First, Hollywood producers were invited to learn the details of the kill Osama operations. Next, came details of the new underwear bomber. Details of the Stuxnet worm were then revealed. Obama's use of cards to decide which islamic terrorists are hit by Hellfire missles also found its way to the president's favorite leftwing paper. Since his record on the economy is so pathetic, he must push this war on terror. But in the process of doing this, he's compromised many of our operatives. Revealing these details has seriously compromised our intelligence network. A Pakastani doctor is in jail because of what was revealed. I'm sure many of those that would have helped are having second thoughts about it. The Whitehousr denies it, but sources in the Times cite infirmation from WH staff. Why would the president not ask The Times to withhold information, if he really cared? According to Jay Carney, the information was probably leaked by a pizza delivery guy or the plumber that was repairing a sink, while a national security conference was in progress. But, then again its anything to get re-elected all over again. |
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Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at June 18, 2012 7:35 AM EDT
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The White House refuses to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate. Instead two AAG's appointed by obama lackey eric holder will supposedly get to the bottom of things. During the Valerie Plame incident in the Bush administration, a certain Senator obama proposed the appointment of a special prosecutor, so that there would be no conflict of interest. It seems strange that the person that proposed that his administration would be the most open in history, will not permit staff members to come forward nor will he allow himself to be interogated as President Bush was (for over an hour) during his administration. |
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Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at June 18, 2012 11:54 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies: The White House refuses to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate. Instead two AAG's appointed by obama lackey eric holder will supposedly get to the bottom of things. During the Valerie Plame incident in the Bush administration, a certain Senator obama proposed the appointment of a special prosecutor, so that there would be no conflict of interest. It seems strange that the person that proposed that his administration would be the most open in history, will not permit staff members to come forward nor will he allow himself to be interogated as President Bush was (for over an hour) during his administration. Posted by Labrat64 Who took the fall for the dark-man Dick Cheney and Karl Rove in the Plame---traitorous CIA leak? re- The Obama White house Attorney General Eric Holder opening a probe PLUS The FBI has launched an investigation into apparent leaks of classified information and where there is no conflict of interest and that must disappoint you greatly. Hiring a special prosecutor is a big premature.... like the GOP hired Ken Starr-and we all paid millions $$$ for nothing !! Bush & Cheney hired their own investigation team to investigate them about 911. lol ... funny how you have brought all this out again and reminded me..... . The republicans took 8 years to hand down a mess where they had an opportunity to fix everything......and they didn't. Now the economy is a mess because after Obama was inaugurated......the republicans said no to everything ....in fact 14 republicans met at a restaurant and traitorously agreed the country should suffer before they said YES to fixing anything under Obama. Unlike the GOP of the far past.... but we never elected a BLACK man before and boy do they hate that. . The Obama-democrats never had the 2/3 of senate 60 votes and the republicans used the fillibuster and silent holds for not getting things done. Here s a short-list to prove my point... Congress says no to penalizing companies for taking jobs overseas & rewarding the ones who stay. (sept 2010) No to equal pays No to student-loan interest decrease No to high speed rail...fixing bridges...infrastructure .... No to end to oil subsidies ( even if we can't afford it. ) No to extending unemployment benefits for millions out of work (unless they could provide more tax breaks for the richest people in our country... No to reversing Bush tax cuts for the 2%.
Tell me WHY I should vote for any republican who who left the DOW 6000....a recession that began in 2003.. PLEDGE with GOD--Grover Norquist.get rid of TAXES on the RICH, rid of social security, medicare, minimum wage, unions.....I would have to be brain-dead to support any republican today and I'm not. |
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Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at June 18, 2012 6:22 PM EDT
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First: December 21, 2011 Last: May 23, 2013 |
Bush spoke to his staff and asked anyone who knew about it to come forward. Scooter Libby admitted that he was responsible. If you want to fault others because the Huff Post says so thats fine. Senator Lieberman came out yesterday and said an independent prosecutor was called for. Does anyone really trust someone like AG holder, who decides what cases he wants toi pursue based solely upon politics? The obama leaks have resulted in whole intelligence operations being compromised and operatives imprisoned or killed. And i see once again, you use the race card. Anyone that opposes obama is obviously a racist. Most people oppose him because he's a leftist idealogue who's way over his head. Now let me attempt to go over the other points you brought up even though they were not relevant to the initial post. Many companies are on-shoring-coming back to the US for logistic and quality reasons. Small businesses though, find it very difficult to operate with the increasingly hostile regultory climate. Oil companies do not receive subsidies. They pay a far greater percentage of their incomes in taxes than most other businesses do. If you want to lokk at subsidies look no further than Soyndra or A123- billions of our dollars wasted. High speed railways to nowhere that nobody will use is another waste. Federally subsidised student loans only encourage "universities" to overcharge-why has the cost of higher education gone up by a rate that far exceeds the cost of living? We have a choice now- do we want to restore America to a land of opportunity, where hard work and innovation bring about the American dream OR do we want to go the way of Greece where everyone depends upon the government? Response to Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies: In Response to Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies : Who took the fall for the dark-man Dick Cheney and Karl Rove in the Plame---traitorous CIA leak? re- The Obama White house Attorney General Eric Holder opening a probe PLUS The FBI has launched an investigation into apparent leaks of classified information and where there is no conflict of interest and that must disappoint you greatly. Hiring a special prosecutor is a big premature.... like the GOP hired Ken Starr-and we all paid millions $$$ for nothing !! Bush & Cheney hired their own investigation team to investigate them about 911. lol ... funny how you have brought all this out again and reminded me..... . The republicans took 8 years to hand down a mess where they had an opportunity to fix everything......and they didn't. Now the economy is a mess because after Obama was inaugurated......the republicans said no to everything ....in fact 14 republicans met at a restaurant and traitorously agreed the country should suffer before they said YES to fixing anything under Obama. Unlike the GOP of the far past.... but we never elected a BLACK man before and boy do they hate that. . The Obama-democrats never had the 2/3 of senate 60 votes and the republicans used the fillibuster and silent holds for not getting things done. Here s a short-list to prove my point... Congress says no to penalizing companies for taking jobs overseas & rewarding the ones who stay. (sept 2010) No to equal pays No to student-loan interest decrease No to high speed rail...fixing bridges...infrastructure .... No to end to oil subsidies ( even if we can't afford it. ) No to extending unemployment benefits for millions out of work (unless they could provide more tax breaks for the richest people in our country... No to reversing Bush tax cuts for the 2%. Tell me WHY I should vote for any republican who who left the DOW 6000....a recession that began in 2003.. PLEDGE with GOD--Grover Norquist.get rid of TAXES on the RICH, rid of social security, medicare, minimum wage, unions.....I would have to be brain-dead to support any republican today and I'm not. Posted by JANMB |
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Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at June 20, 2012 3:32 PM EDT
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First: December 21, 2011 Last: May 23, 2013 |
Isn't strange that the release of classified information by the WH staff (the leaks) is not considered a big deal, while the release of "Fast and Furious" e-mails is considered as something that will jeopardise national security? Clearly the WH must be involved in this scheme which resulted in death on both sides of the border. If there was no problem, why aren't the documents requested by Issa being released? Again, this is clearly a cover-up. Also note that the left wing "mainstream" media is not covering this at all. |
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Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at July 2, 2012 3:25 PM EDT
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First: August 9, 2011 Last: May 23, 2013 |
Let's look at this. Bush started two wars one that had nothing to do with 9/11 (Iraq). The other in Afghanistan when he didn't get Bin Laden he should have gotten out of and Obama has gotten us out of Iraq and now getting us out of Afghanistan after killing Bin Laden and still the Republican are trying to discredit him. The whole story should be told the only ones who don't want the hear it are the Republicans that caused the whole rotten mess to begin with. So that is not leaks just things that Republicans don't want to hear. |
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Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at July 2, 2012 7:07 PM EDT
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First: December 21, 2011 Last: May 23, 2013 |
You know I'm sick and tired of liberals playing the race card. We cannot stand obama because he really doesn't know how to lead this nation. If Allen West or Herman Cane were running i would support thnem in a heartbeat. All of obamas support comes from the radical left. Never before in our history did we have anyone as divisive as him. We are faced with a budget deficit because of the many failed stimulus plans (such as giving $1 trillion to states to prop up public worker unions). High speed rails to nowhere are a total waste. Anything that government does private industry does more efficiently. ever wonder why government subsidised Amtrack is a total failure, while the private freight lines are successful? Student loan interest reductions (which was passed BTW) is a waste. It only encourages universities to piss away money on un-needed things like indoor waterfalls. If you don't have the money for some prestigious university, start off in a community college and transfer. Also get a job. That's what I did. That's what my boys did. It's all about gimme. People are no longer responsible for anything. Response to Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies: Bush spoke to his staff and asked anyone who knew about it to come forward. Scooter Libby admitted that he was responsible. If you want to fault others because the Huff Post says so thats fine. Senator Lieberman came out yesterday and said an independent prosecutor was called for. Does anyone really trust someone like AG holder, who decides what cases he wants toi pursue based solely upon politics? The obama leaks have resulted in whole intelligence operations being compromised and operatives imprisoned or killed. And i see once again, you use the race card. Anyone that opposes obama is obviously a racist. Most people oppose him because he's a leftist idealogue who's way over his head. Now let me attempt to go over the other points you brought up even though they were not relevant to the initial post. Many companies are on-shoring-coming back to the US for logistic and quality reasons. Small businesses though, find it very difficult to operate with the increasingly hostile regultory climate. Oil companies do not receive subsidies. They pay a far greater percentage of their incomes in taxes than most other businesses do. If you want to lokk at subsidies look no further than Soyndra or A123- billions of our dollars wasted. High speed railways to nowhere that nobody will use is another waste. Federally subsidised student loans only encourage "universities" to overcharge-why has the cost of higher education gone up by a rate that far exceeds the cost of living? We have a choice now- do we want to restore America to a land of opportunity, where hard work and innovation bring about the American dream OR do we want to go the way of Greece where everyone depends upon the government? Response to Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies : Posted by Labrat64 |
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Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at July 3, 2012 10:45 AM EDT
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What ever the cost of the high speed railway that was built in the U.S. doesn't compare to the money spent on hospitals, prisons, schools and just wasted away in the land of our enemies during the Bush administration. You forget the condition of our nation when Clinton left office and how Bush left it in shambles when he gladly left office. One of the biggest lies that Republicans are spreading is how this president is wasting money, when Federal spending is down dramatically in recent times. If money was spent by Obama it was spent on Americans. As the Tea Party would say God Bless America. |
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Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at July 3, 2012 11:40 AM EDT
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How right you are, President Obama has faced all time record numbers of filibusters from the Obstructionist Republican Right Wing Congress leadership that President Obama has had little chance to improve our economy with his programs. To say President Obama's spending is hurting our country is like saying the Iraq War stimulated our economy. What is hurting our country is the Republicans in Congress, who wont allow any progress to be made under President Obama's watch. After all the money the Bush Administration cost us, I cant believe any Republican would mention spending. I wonder how Iraq's Infrastructure is coming along with Halliburton running the show ? n Response to Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies: What ever the cost of the high speed railway that was built in the U.S. doesn't compare to the money spent on hospitals, prisons, schools and just wasted away in the land of our enemies during the Bush administration. You forget the condition of our nation when Clinton left office and how Bush left it in shambles when he gladly left office. One of the biggest lies that Republicans are spreading is how this president is wasting money, when Federal spending is down dramatically in recent times. If money was spent by Obama it was spent on Americans. As the Tea Party would say God Bless America. Posted by creppelrm |
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Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies
posted at July 3, 2012 2:58 PM EDT
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First: December 21, 2011 Last: May 23, 2013 |
For the first 2 years there were 60 democrat Senators and a democrat majority in the house. All that was done was a health care bill that did anything but lower medical costs. $1 trillion was spent on a stimulus program that benefitted only public service unions. No shovel ready jobs were created. Obama is not a Bill Clinton (who I voted for twice!!!) Clinton moved to the center. Obama is staying over to the radical left. Coal, which is the source of electricity for half the nation is being forced out, along with thousands of jobs. Middle class people in the midwest will see their electricity costs go up by 50%. I've said before, we shouldn't have gotten into Iraq because it created a power vacuum that Iran climbed into. Afghanistan was necessary to go after the Taliban and Al Qeda. A state of war exists between the West and radical islam. America has a choice in November- Do we restore this nation to its former glory or do we go the failing ways of socialist Europe. Response to Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies: How right you are, President Obama has faced all time record numbers of filibusters from the Obstructionist Republican Right Wing Congress leadership that President Obama has had little chance to improve our economy with his programs. To say President Obama's spending is hurting our country is like saying the Iraq War stimulated our economy. What is hurting our country is the Republicans in Congress, who wont allow any progress to be made under President Obama's watch. After all the money the Bush Administration cost us, I cant believe any Republican would mention spending. I wonder how Iraq's Infrastructure is coming along with Halliburton running the show ? n Response to Re: Loose Lips Sink Ships or How to lose our Allies and Help our Enemies : Posted by mandm84 |
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