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This was probably very predictable to anyone that watched 2016. Obama forces the proWestern government out of Egypt and bombs the hell out of Libya, which had rid itself of chemical weapons and was ef
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Libya and Egypt

posted at September 12, 2012 6:50 AM EDT
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Last: May 24, 2013
This was probably very predictable to anyone that watched 2016. Obama forces the proWestern government out of Egypt and bombs the hell out of Libya, which had rid itself of chemical weapons and was effectively neutralized. We now hear that the islamist governments that are now in power, do nothing when the US embassies are attacked by mobs of islamists. Coptic Christians, that have been in Egypt for millenia are massacred by the islamist government that the obama administration threw its support to, while our government stands by in silence. But then again, according to obama in his Cairo speech to the islamic umma, America is not a Christian nation.

Re: Libya and Egypt

posted at September 12, 2012 11:13 AM EDT
Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
  Bombed  the hell out of Libya ?  No Labrat,  you have your countries confused, we bombed the hell out of Iraq. Iraq is where over 100,000 innocent civilians died and Libya did try to rescue our diplomats. There you go again getting all your "facts" from Right Wing Fox News.
  Your burning hatred for President Obama continues Labrat and  in your eyes all the world's problems are Obama's fault. Remember "Hatred" is what causes all the worlds problems in the first place and you sure have enough of it to go around. Response to Libya and Egypt:
This was probably very predictable to anyone that watched 2016. Obama forces the proWestern government out of Egypt and bombs the hell out of Libya, which had rid itself of chemical weapons and was effectively neutralized. We now hear that the islamist governments that are now in power, do nothing when the US embassies are attacked by mobs of islamists. Coptic Christians, that have been in Egypt for millenia are massacred by the islamist government that the obama administration threw its support to, while our government stands by in silence. But then again, according to obama in his Cairo speech to the islamic umma, America is not a Christian nation.
Posted by Labrat64

Re: Libya and Egypt

posted at September 12, 2012 12:03 PM EDT
Posts: 536
First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 25, 2013
During my years with the U.S. Military, I have spent many years working with the Egyptian military even during the Obama administration.  I've also worked in a lot of middle eastern countries.  What you are saying is so far from the truth I am not even going to try to explain it.



In Response to Libya and Egypt:
This was probably very predictable to anyone that watched 2016. Obama forces the proWestern government out of Egypt and bombs the hell out of Libya, which had rid itself of chemical weapons and was effectively neutralized. We now hear that the islamist governments that are now in power, do nothing when the US embassies are attacked by mobs of islamists. Coptic Christians, that have been in Egypt for millenia are massacred by the islamist government that the obama administration threw its support to, while our government stands by in silence. But then again, according to obama in his Cairo speech to the islamic umma, America is not a Christian nation.
Posted by Labrat64

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posted at September 13, 2012 6:41 AM EDT
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First: December 21, 2011
Last: May 24, 2013
I just listened to an interview with Lt Col. allen West. He strongly disagrees with what you say. Unless you were a General, i think his knowledge of the situation trumps yours.
 Response to Re: Libya and Egypt:
During my years with the U.S. Military, I have spent many years working with the Egyptian military even during the Obama administration.  I've also worked in a lot of middle eastern countries.  What you are saying is so far from the truth I am not even going to try to explain it. In Response to Libya and Egypt :
Posted by creppelrm

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posted at September 13, 2012 6:52 AM EDT
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First: December 21, 2011
Last: May 24, 2013

Let's face it, obama's policy of kumbaya in dealing with the arab spring is a total failure. Showing any sign of weakness in that part of the world is inviting trouble. We knew that something was planned. Why weren't our embassies protected on the anniversary of 9/11?? The internet video which was produced and first appeared 6 months ago was just a red herring. It was an excuse for something that had been planned well in advance. Will our marines be permitted to use deadly force or will they be ordered to stand down? It's about time that we realise, that these "people' have no respect for the rules of civilised society and learn to treat them accordingly.

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posted at September 13, 2012 11:55 AM EDT
Posts: 536
First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 25, 2013
Your talking about politician Allen West one of the former Army officer that got Bush in trouble in Afghanistan than Iraq.  And now he wants to get the U.S. in trouble by advising that Obama caused Arab Spring?  The two bit dictators that you call pro-western are the cause of Arab Spring not Obama.  You see Labrat,  when you are dictator and say you are pro-western and receive all of this money for the U.S. and only keep this wealth distributed among 1% of the population and the 99% doesn't receive anything that usually happens.  This didn't happen just during to Obama administration, this has been brewing for years.  Just happened to come to a head now.


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I just listened to an interview with Lt Col. allen West. He strongly disagrees with what you say. Unless you were a General, i think his knowledge of the situation trumps yours.  Response to Re: Libya and Egypt :
Posted by Labrat64

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posted at September 13, 2012 1:05 PM EDT
Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
  Romney has alot of nerve to try and win political points by criticizing our Embassy staff's statements, while they were under attack and being killed. The President NEVER apologized to the attackers and it was the embassy staff, who sent the messages out to try and calm the air regarding that unnecessary anti -  muslim hate film.
   I'd like to see what messages Romney would be sending out , if he were the one literally under attack by terrorists.. More lies and disrespect from Romney to try and win the Whitehouse. Even President Bush's U.S. Ambassador Nicholas Burns  was critical of Romney, saying Romney made a big mistake and his statement was uncalled for.Response to Re: Libya and Egypt:
Your talking about politician Allen West one of the former Army officer that got Bush in trouble in Afghanistan than Iraq.  And now he wants to get the U.S. in trouble by advising that Obama caused Arab Spring?  The two bit dictators that you call pro-western are the cause of Arab Spring not Obama.  You see Labrat,  when you are dictator and say you are pro-western and receive all of this money for the U.S. and only keep this wealth distributed among 1% of the population and the 99% doesn't receive anything that usually happens.  This didn't happen just during to Obama administration, this has been brewing for years.  Just happened to come to a head now. In Response to Re: Libya and Egypt :
Posted by creppelrm

Re: Libya and Egypt

posted at September 13, 2012 2:35 PM EDT
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First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 25, 2013
also short term results of such revolution might be great for the usa--but long term disastrous (like MUBARACH and kHADAFI were tyrants but the usa "controlled" them
they may not be so lucky with replacement...

by using military power, (and it weakens our country and makes us POORER!) overseas we endanger Americans who are there (BLOWBACK)

Ron Paul and pres. Obama talk about our foreign policy, esp. towards Egypt and Libya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBJYSWHfq4E


 

Re: Libya and Egypt

posted at September 13, 2012 3:51 PM EDT
Posts: 536
First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 25, 2013
The Moslem Brotherhood who are in power now in Egypt were sending  volunteers out in Egypt to care for the poor with medical aid and food while Mubarak and his rich friends ruled with an iron fist.  The problem is no one realizes that the iron fist belongs to the masses.  What has happened in Egypt is not as much a religious issue as it is a social issue.  But now the religious zelots are in power it has become part of the problem.  Just because of a greedy few.  These dictators may rule for a while by force, and eventually it catches up with them.  If the U.S. doesn't learn from the lessons abroad we are doomed to repeat the same here.  And the Republicans are prime examples of these dictators who only think of the 1% rather than the masses who are the real power.














In Response to Re: Libya and Egypt:
also short term results of such revolution might be great for the usa--but long term disastrous (like MUBARACH and kHADAFI were tyrants but the usa "controlled" them they may not be so lucky with replacement... by using military power, (and it weakens our country and makes us POORER!) overseas we endanger Americans who are there (BLOWBACK) Ron Paul and pres. Obama talk about our foreign policy, esp. towards Egypt and Libya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBJYSWHfq4E  
Posted by Astra2012

Re: Libya and Egypt

posted at September 13, 2012 5:59 PM EDT
Posts: 941
First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 25, 2013
In Response to Re: Libya and Egypt:
The Moslem Brotherhood who are in power now in Egypt were sending  volunteers out in Egypt to care for the poor with medical aid and food while Mubarak and his rich friends ruled with an iron fist.  The problem is no one realizes that the iron fist belongs to the masses.  What has happened in Egypt is not as much a religious issue as it is a social issue.  But now the religious zelots are in power it has become part of the problem.  Just because of a greedy few.  These dictators may rule for a while by force, and eventually it catches up with them.  If the U.S. doesn't learn from the lessons abroad we are doomed to repeat the same here.  And the Republicans are prime examples of these dictators who only think of the 1% rather than the masses who are the real power. In Response to Re: Libya and Egypt :
Posted by creppelrm


i know: that the problem- even if some people here do not like Muslim Brotherhood many poor Egyptians love it and vice versa with Mubarach.

masses all over the world got angry and protest
Americans are not fast to react--but when they do it is "full force"
both RNC and DNC pretended they wanted people to vote while they were only reading from teleprompter the WRONG result of that vote.
in other words - the party comittees ignored voice of American people!

American people have to pay taxes and send their kids to die for "the greedy few" - and that's all.
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