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I watched as obama made his case for wind energy in Iowa. He stood in front of a bank of windmills that were barely moving. We were kind of betting on whether or not there was enough power to light up
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Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills
posted at August 14, 2012 6:38 PM EDT
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I watched as obama made his case for wind energy in Iowa. He stood in front of a bank of windmills that were barely moving. We were kind of betting on whether or not there was enough power to light up a 60 watt bulb- I guess there was enough to light up a 12 watt CFL. Wind energy producers pay no taxes and receive a 30% governmentsubsidy to boot. Another example of government waste. Below is an article i gleaned from "Master resource: When it comes to power, density is the key. Energy density. The reason that solar power, wind power, and ethanol are so expensive is that they are derived from very diffuse energy sources. It takes a lot of energy collectors such as solar cells, wind turbines, or corn stalks covering many square miles of land to produce the same amount of power that traditional coal, natural gas, or nuclear plants can on just a few acres. Each of these alternative energy sources is based on mature technology. Agriculture and fermentation have their roots in prehistory, windmills date back at least to 65 B.C., the photovoltaic effect was discovered in 1839. Yet nowhere in the world are these technologies serving as primary energy sources without significant government subsidies. While incremental improvements can be expected, what is needed for them to become viable is an order of magnitude increase in productivity. As old and as well-researched as the technologies are, such improvements are possible but unlikely. As significant future energy sources these technologies are dead ends, which is why the government, and not the private sector, is funding them |
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Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills
posted at August 14, 2012 8:31 PM EDT
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In Response to Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills: As significant future energy sources these technologies are dead ends, which is why the government, and not the private sector, is funding them Posted by Labrat64 And we have to give significant tax credits for people to even buy some of the technology and cars. |
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Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills
posted at August 21, 2012 1:39 AM EDT
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Just let Big Oil keep running our lives and polluting our waters and air, while not paying their fair share of taxes and forcing our military to get involved and lose lives. Our children and grandchildren can thank us down the road. Maybe we can just change the history books and blame it all on President Obama, because its only RIGHT to blame him for everything bad today. Wake up and smell the pollution, my friend.Response to Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills: In Response to Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills : And we have to give significant tax credits for people to even buy some of the technology and cars. Posted by GailL1 |
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Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills
posted at August 21, 2012 7:05 AM EDT
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And just what does this have to do with big oil??? The way the free market system works is that products and services the public wants and needs are provided by corporations. Corporations compete against each other for customers.hat provide a good product or service at reasonable cost succeed. Those that do not fail. When the government starts picking winners and (mostly losers) the public loses. We as taxpayers lose. government involvement is why the economy is in such poor shape. Getting back to windmills, I can see obama's next proposal to provide jobs for Americans a la windmills. We can hire tens of thousands of out of work coal miners and oil field workers and place them on OSHA approved ladders and have them blow at the windmills when there is no wind. That's about as sound as any proposal that comes from his administration. Response to Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills: Just let Big Oil keep running our lives and polluting our waters and air, while not paying their fair share of taxes and forcing our military to get involved and lose lives. Our children and grandchildren can thank us down the road. Maybe we can just change the history books and blame it all on President Obama, because its only RIGHT to blame him for everything bad today. Wake up and smell the pollution, my friend.Response to Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills : Posted by mandm84 |
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Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills
posted at August 21, 2012 7:12 AM EDT
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In Response to Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills: I watched as obama made his case for wind energy in Iowa. He stood in front of a bank of windmills that were barely moving. We were kind of betting on whether or not there was enough power to light up a 60 watt bulb- I guess there was enough to light up a 12 watt CFL. Wind energy producers pay no taxes and receive a 30% governmentsubsidy to boot. Another example of government waste. Below is an article i gleaned from "Master resource: When it comes to power, density is the key. Energy density. The reason that solar power, wind power, and ethanol are so expensive is that they are derived from very diffuse energy sources. It takes a lot of energy collectors such as solar cells, wind turbines, or corn stalks covering many square miles of land to produce the same amount of power that traditional coal, natural gas, or nuclear plants can on just a few acres. Each of these alternative energy sources is based on mature technology. Agriculture and fermentation have their roots in prehistory, windmills date back at least to 65 B.C., the photovoltaic effect was discovered in 1839. Yet nowhere in the world are these technologies serving as primary energy sources without significant government subsidies. While incremental improvements can be expected, what is needed for them to become viable is an order of magnitude increase in productivity. As old and as well-researched as the technologies are, such improvements are possible but unlikely. As significant future energy sources these technologies are dead ends, which is why the government, and not the private sector, is funding them Posted by Labrat64 Republicans only know to laugh and these hyenias in that party keep the USA on a race to the BOTTOM whether it's education or healthcare and now with energy. as if the resources from oil, coal and gas are going to be forever. Investigation is going on about the TEXAS earthquakes they think is from oil-gas exploration. The "fracking" will have to stop. Wind turbines today are truly revolutionizing energy generation across the globe. READ and LEARN how Dow is helping create lighter, stronger and longer turbine blades that are helping harness more energy than ever. Headlines overseas are North Sea countries plan €30bn clean energy project for continuous, weather- proof electricity supply.--- 9 countries in Europe formally link--clean energy products.... Norway wants to become Europe's battery...... Germany goes for solar..... Poland closes dirty-factories.and yet never had a recession. |
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Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills
posted at August 21, 2012 1:22 PM EDT
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You're right Labrat, Big Oil is our friend. I see the BP commercials, they love our land and we should all just blame and hate President Obama. Response to Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills: And just what does this have to do with big oil??? The way the free market system works is that products and services the public wants and needs are provided by corporations. Corporations compete against each other for customers.hat provide a good product or service at reasonable cost succeed. Those that do not fail. When the government starts picking winners and (mostly losers) the public loses. We as taxpayers lose. government involvement is why the economy is in such poor shape. Getting back to windmills, I can see obama's next proposal to provide jobs for Americans a la windmills. We can hire tens of thousands of out of work coal miners and oil field workers and place them on OSHA approved ladders and have them blow at the windmills when there is no wind. That's about as sound as any proposal that comes from his administration. Response to Re: Laugh of the Day-Don Quixote Obama and the Windmills :
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