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It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
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It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
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The bullet-ridden bodies of three adults and two children were found inside an Albuquerque, N.M., home late Saturday, authorities confirmed today. A teenage boy was arrested and is being charg
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at January 23, 2013 1:10 PM EST
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In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting: Yes Umbarch64 could have been an accident like in N.C. gun show. In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting : Posted by creppelrm Maybe Gov Perry will have a mandate to have all students armed and this way they can use the stand-your-ground-laws. (sarcasm) There is security in this particular school I read, but when there are so many guns in our society....it's just a tragedy always waiting to happen. It has never been unsafer in this country, whether in the homes, in a mall, or any public place with 300 million guns out there. |
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at January 23, 2013 1:53 PM EST
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In the good ole days we settled thing with our fist. When I went home with a my eye swollen half shut to sit down to dinner my my Mama and Daddy didn't mention a thing and I wouldn't either. You would either win or lose and usually everything was forgotten within a day or two. Now when a kid is carrying a gun in college, a fight will mean the hospital, jail or morgue. In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting: In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting : Maybe Gov Perry will have a mandate to have all students armed and this way they can use the stand-your-ground-laws. (sarcasm) There is security in this particular school I read, but when there are so many guns in our society....it's just a tragedy always waiting to happen. It has never been unsafer in this country, whether in the homes, in a mall, or any public place with 300 million guns out there. Posted by JANMB |
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at January 25, 2013 1:28 PM EST
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In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting: wisemagic, there are forces that are fighting the President that are stronger than we all can imagine that include but not limited to the NRA. You and I here in Louisiana are probably the only people who support gun control. My son, daughter-in-law, friends and relatives are all members of the NRA. They all believe Obama wants to take their guns and ammo away from them. They all think it is their God given right to own guns and are blinded by the fact that if you live by the sword you die by the sword. We are not a people to being forced a law or tax or anything else on us as testament by the American Revolution and the Civil War. Not twenty, thirty or fifty percent need to accept a law but 100% although all may not agree totally. We are fortunate to be citizens of a country that hopefully comprimise can be achieved. In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting : Posted by creppelrm Stand Up to the NRAToday, we have the momentum to reduce gun violence. But the NRA, armed to the teeth with lobbyists, has pledged to stop common-sense gun laws at any cost. http://www.dscc.org/act4?action_KEY=713&track=SEM_GS_NRA-S_Reform_31819928252 |
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at January 25, 2013 1:40 PM EST
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Petition signed , Thanks WisemagicResponse to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting: In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting : Stand Up to the NRA Today, we have the momentum to reduce gun violence. But the NRA, armed to the teeth with lobbyists, has pledged to stop common-sense gun laws at any cost. If we don’t stand up to the NRA now, we could lose our only chance to prevent gun brutality. Denounce the NRA immediately: Stand in support of common-sense gun measures. http://www.dscc.org/act4?action_KEY=713&track=SEM_GS_NRA-S_Reform_31819928252 Posted by wisemagic |
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at January 30, 2013 5:02 PM EST
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In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting: Yes Umbarch64 could have been an accident like in N.C. gun show. In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting : Posted by creppelrm I'm not sure I understand your meaning..........are you sure you understood mine? |
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at February 1, 2013 7:27 PM EST
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Police: 1 killed, 3 wounded in Phoenix drive-by
A woman was killed and three other people wounded Friday in a drive-by shooting in a Phoenix neighborhood, police said. A dark green vehicle with four men inside pulled up to the home around 2:30 p.m. and someone fired multiple rounds at the four victims outside, said Sgt. Steve Martos, a Phoenix police spokesman.
A woman in her 60s and another in her 20s were transported from the scene in critical condition, and Martos said one of them later died. Another woman and a man in his 20s suffered non-life threatening injuries in the shooting, Martos said. http://www.galvestondailynews.com/news_ap/nation/article_c0b521b2-a46b-56ff-b05a-18a2d49c1219.html |
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at February 2, 2013 1:34 AM EST
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A Dead Child and Childish Things
It rained hard in Chicago on Tuesday.
About a dozen teenagers took refuge under a canopy, to wait out the storm.
One of them was Hadiya Pendleton, age 15. A majorette in the King College Prep High School band, she'd only recently had the honor of performing for festivities at the inauguration of President Obama.
A man with a gun vaulted a fence, ran toward the place Hadiya was standing and fired into the group. A bullet ripped through her back, killing her. The shooter escaped.
The death of this latest child killed by gun violence happened one day after pro-gun activists heckled Neil Heslin, father of 6-year-old Jesse Heslin, one of the 6-year-olds massacred in Newtown, CT. Heslin was testifying at a hearing on curbing gun violence in the Connecticut state capitol.
Hadiya's death happened one day before Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association got in a shouting match at a U.S. Senate hearing on guns. LaPierre was arguing against universal background checks for gun purchases, something the Washington Post reports 88 percent of Americans support.
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at February 2, 2013 3:22 AM EST
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I hope all here are following the so-called debate over gun control...........and that the sources you use are committed to objectivity and intellectual honesty. Hard to apply those things in the midst of anguish and sorrow.....and outrage. Objectivity and intellectual honesty are characteristic of science...a method which seeks to evaluate fact and truth based on the certitude of all evidence....which has been established by repeated experiment. There is no 'wrong way' in the scientific method...only disproved hypotheses. Once disproved, you don't need to go there again IF circumstances stay the same. That method leads eventually to undisputed fact.......and truth......well, truth simply IS......what else is there to say about that. Objectivity and intellectual honesty is THE prerequisite. For many advocates, the hypothesis IS the truth, at least as they see it. So data is often manipulated, legitimate fact concealed or distorted....all to support that hypothesis. That kind of advocacy proselytizes, is inherently prejudiced and intellectually dishonest It is contemptuous of the worth of the person not holding the same hypothetical viewpoint and essentially dishonest with their own self. It is unworthy of those who died.....no matter who does it. A gun is a tool designed with the specific primary intent to wound and cause physical damage to a biological target from a distance presenting the least possible risk to the user. All other purposes are subordinate to the primary. That's what a gun is for and it is not unique in that purpose. The way a person sees the world and the denizens of the world is key to the need for such a tool. Perhaps that reality is also key to resolving this debate. |
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at February 2, 2013 12:16 PM EST
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When I learned that since 1968, more Americans were killed by guns in our Nation than those killed in ALL the Wars combined in our history going back to the Revolutionary War, its time for serious changes. The total deaths from ALL Wars is estimated at 1,171,177, but 1,384,171 were killed by guns in this Nation and thats only since 1968 !!! Thats a statistic that should make all Americans sick to their stomachs, whether your'e an NRA member or not, but unfortunately it wont. There will still be those extremists who wont be satisfied unless they can keep their 50 round Assault Rifles in case the Martians from outer space invade and dont want to be inconvenienced by a background check. When does common sense come into play ?Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting: I hope all here are following the so-called debate over gun control...........and that the sources you use are committed to objectivity and intellectual honesty. Hard to apply those things in the midst of anguish and sorrow.....and outrage. Objectivity and intellectual honesty are characteristic of science...a method which seeks to evaluate fact and truth based on the certitude of all evidence....which has been established by repeated experiment. There is no 'wrong way' in the scientific method...only disproved hypotheses. Once disproved, you don't need to go there again IF circumstances stay the same. That method leads eventually to undisputed fact.......and truth......well, truth simply IS......what else is there to say about that. Objectivity and intellectual honesty is THE prerequisite. For many advocates, the hypothesis IS the truth, at least as they see it. So data is often manipulated, legitimate fact concealed or distorted....all to support that hypothesis. That kind of advocacy proselytizes, is inherently prejudiced and intellectually dishonest It is contemptuous of the worth of the person not holding the same hypothetical viewpoint and essentially dishonest with their own self. It is unworthy of those who died.....no matter who does it. A gun is a tool designed with the specific primary intent to wound and cause physical damage to a biological target from a distance presenting the least possible risk to the user. All other purposes are subordinate to the primary. That's what a gun is for and it is not unique in that purpose. The way a person sees the world and the denizens of the world is key to the need for such a tool. Perhaps that reality is also key to resolving this debate.
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Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
posted at February 2, 2013 12:44 PM EST
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A gun is a tool, in the hands hunter it is used for supplying food or a way for some of us to make a living. In the hands sportsmen who adhere to strict rules, it is used for skeet shooting or target shooting and hunting. In the hands of policemen who are supposed to be well trained knowing he is a public servent in mind, it is used for public safety. In the hands of soldiers who are well trained and well led, and act as a "unit" it is used for to defend our nation and when I say our nation I mean every person in this nation regardless of religion, gender, sex, or political affiliate. In the hands of ego driven arrogant individuals who needs a gun that is bigger, better faster and more lethal than any other, or criminals, or Governors who take pot shots at coyotoes while jogging, and cowards who are driven by fear, it is a potential murder weapon. And even with the people who are trained to handle this weapon in a respectful way there are stilll accidents. As the Bible says "You live by the sword you die by the sword." n Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting: I hope all here are following the so-called debate over gun control...........and that the sources you use are committed to objectivity and intellectual honesty. Hard to apply those things in the midst of anguish and sorrow.....and outrage. Objectivity and intellectual honesty are characteristic of science...a method which seeks to evaluate fact and truth based on the certitude of all evidence....which has been established by repeated experiment. There is no 'wrong way' in the scientific method...only disproved hypotheses. Once disproved, you don't need to go there again IF circumstances stay the same. That method leads eventually to undisputed fact.......and truth......well, truth simply IS......what else is there to say about that. Objectivity and intellectual honesty is THE prerequisite. For many advocates, the hypothesis IS the truth, at least as they see it. So data is often manipulated, legitimate fact concealed or distorted....all to support that hypothesis. That kind of advocacy proselytizes, is inherently prejudiced and intellectually dishonest It is contemptuous of the worth of the person not holding the same hypothetical viewpoint and essentially dishonest with their own self. It is unworthy of those who died.....no matter who does it. A gun is a tool designed with the specific primary intent to wound and cause physical damage to a biological target from a distance presenting the least possible risk to the user. All other purposes are subordinate to the primary. That's what a gun is for and it is not unique in that purpose. The way a person sees the world and the denizens of the world is key to the need for such a tool. Perhaps that reality is also key to resolving this debate. Posted by umbarch64 |
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