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It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting
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It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 20, 2013 4:19 PM EST
Posts: 342
First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013

The bullet-ridden bodies of three adults and two children were found inside an Albuquerque, N.M., home late Saturday, authorities confirmed today.

 

A teenage boy was arrested and is being charged with two counts of murder and three counts of child abuse resulting in death, according to Deputy Aaron Williamson of the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department.


The name of the boy has not been released, and his motive and connection to the victims was not immediately known, Williamson said.


"We're still in the early stages of the investigation, trying to determine, their identity and once we have everybody identified, then we'll be able to determine whether or not there was any relationship among the deceased or the offender," Williamson said.


Authorities responded to the family home Saturday around 9:15 p.m., and found multiple casualties.
An assault-type rifle, along with several other weapons, were recovered at the scene.


The victims, including an adult male and female, two girls, and one boy, appeared to have suffered "multiple gunshot wounds," Williamson said.


Final identifications of the victims are currently under way, he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/albuquerque-shooting-adults-children-dead/story?id=18265141


UPDATE


2:04 p.m. – 
Neighbors identified the two adults and three children killed Saturday night as the Griego family, who they described as active in the church as well as the South Valley neighborhood.


The suspect’s father, whom neighbors identified as Greg Griego, is a church pastor. When a nearby house burned down recently, neighbors said Griego was helpful in comforting community residents.


Griego and his wife, Sarah, have 10 kids, according to the pastor’s biography on the Calgary Church website, which has been removed. The other children’s ages were not given in the biography.


The suspect, Nehemiah Griego, 15, was not well known among those living within a block or so of the family’s home on Long Lane in the South Valley.


However, neighbor Peter Gomez said he saw the boy walk with siblings and his parents through the neighborhood regularly, and he “wore nothing but camouflage stuff”.

http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/01/20/abqnewsseeker/breaking-five-dead-in-south-valley-shooting.html

Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 20, 2013 7:44 PM EST
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First: May 26, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013

Careful about this stuff.  All sources are not equal and not many as conscientious as wisemagic.

Until Congress does something or more likely is forced to do something, the propaganda will fly.  The propaganda mill will grind out crap and truth will be abused. 

Thr arguments can be highly emotional......not a bad thing necessarily.  Much good comes of our empathy toward our fellow beings......just be aware that feelings do not always generate good law.   'Feel good' legislation that is impossible to administer won't do it.

Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 20, 2013 8:16 PM EST
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First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 19, 2013
Yes Umbarch64 could have been an accident like in N.C. gun show.


In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting:
Careful about this stuff.  All sources are not equal and not many as conscientious as wisemagic. Until Congress does something or more likely is forced to do something, the propaganda will fly.  The propaganda mill will grind out crap and truth will be abused.  Thr arguments can be highly emotional......not a bad thing necessarily.  Much good comes of our empathy toward our fellow beings......just be aware that feelings do not always generate good law.   'Feel good' legislation that is impossible to administer won't do it.
Posted by umbarch64

Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 21, 2013 1:46 AM EST
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Last: May 20, 2013
I am just sick to my stomach, and sad to see another assault weapon mass slaughter like this. The Obama administration is not taking a firm stand on these assault weapons. How many more days untill the next one? How many more will die before DC wakes up and gets these weapons banned?

People, listen.... IF you own any gun, i don't care if it is a .22 pistol or a .270 rifle, you have got to secure these guns. You have to lock them down. You have to keep them away from everyone. These are your guns, be responsible and make sure to keep them where only YOU can access and use them. Gun owners, we all know how important this is. We have to take action, because DC isn't.

I don't know what weapon this boy used, or how he got his hands on it, but one thing for sure, he didn't buy it, and go through some background check or mental health evaluation.

I'm all for the 2nd amendment and our rights, but these guys, doing these mass killing with assault weapons has got to stop.

Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 21, 2013 1:51 AM EST
Posts: 342
First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
8:23 p.m. — It was a “horrific” crime scene that confronted deputies Saturday night: Former Calvary church Pastor Greg Griego; his wife, Sarah; and their three youngest children dead — fatally shot multiple times with a “military-style” assault rifle and other weapons — at their South Valley home.

The suspect in custody is the couple’s 15-year-old son, Nehemiah Griego, who neighbors said often wore “nothing but camouflage” and wanted to be in the army.

“I’ve never seen a scene quite like this,” Bernalillo County Sheriff Dan Houston said at a news conference Sunday morning.

9:16 p.m. – Police have released the names and ages of the victims in the South Valley shooting.

They are:

Greg Griego, 51
Sarah Griego, 40
Zephania Griego, 9
Jael Griego, 5
Angelina Griego, 2


http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/01/20/abqnewsseeker/breaking-five-dead-in-south-valley-shooting.html

Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 21, 2013 4:23 AM EST
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First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
  The Atlantic Wire reports the weapon used was again a  AR-15 Assault Rifle. President Obama along with V.P. Biden have already stated they want to ban such Assault Rifles with high capacity magazines, but realize many Republicans and some Democrats will side with the NRA and they will have the fight of their lives to ban such weapons. The previous Assault Weapon Ban should have never been rescinded by President Bush in 2004.Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting:
8:23 p.m. — It was a “horrific” crime scene that confronted deputies Saturday night: Former Calvary church Pastor Greg Griego; his wife, Sarah; and their three youngest children dead — fatally shot multiple times with a “military-style” assault rifle and other weapons — at their South Valley home. The suspect in custody is the couple’s 15-year-old son, Nehemiah Griego, who neighbors said often wore “nothing but camouflage” and wanted to be in the army. “I’ve never seen a scene quite like this,” Bernalillo County Sheriff Dan Houston said at a news conference Sunday morning. 9:16 p.m. –  Police have released the names and ages of the victims in the South Valley shooting. They are: Greg Griego, 51 Sarah Griego, 40 Zephania Griego, 9 Jael Griego, 5 Angelina Griego, 2 http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/01/20/abqnewsseeker/breaking-five-dead-in-south-valley-shooting.html
Posted by wisemagic

Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 21, 2013 11:15 AM EST
Posts: 342
First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting:
  The Atlantic Wire reports the weapon used was again a  AR-15 Assault Rifle. President Obama along with V.P. Biden have already stated they want to ban such Assault Rifles with high capacity magazines, but realize many Republicans and some Democrats will side with the NRA and they will have the fight of their lives to ban such weapons. The previous Assault Weapon Ban should have never been rescinded by President Bush in 2004.Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting :
Posted by mandm84


I'm sure it will be a tough battle. And it is just sad to think the people of this nation will continue to hold on to the right to have assault weapons, while the killing with these specific weapons just keeps increasing. I went to the white house petition site, and there are some that want no banning what so ever, and not one that does want assault weapons banned.

We may not be in a government military state.... yet, but we are on a battle ground.

Stay alert, you never know who or where the next shooter is going to be coming from. But he's out there.

Heck of a way to have to live.

Change.org does have a petition going

The Government: Reenact the Federal Assault Weapons Ban and Make it Law.

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-government-reenact-the-federal-assault-weapons-ban-and-make-it-law?utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=url_share&utm_campaign=url_share_before_sign

Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 21, 2013 12:32 PM EST
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First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 19, 2013
wisemagic, there are forces that are fighting the President that are stronger than we all can imagine that include but not limited to the NRA.  You and I here in Louisiana are probably the only people who support gun control.  My son, daughter-in-law, friends and relatives are all members of the NRA.  They all believe Obama wants to take their guns and ammo away from them.  They all think it is their God given right to own guns and are blinded by the fact that if you live by the sword you die by the sword.  We are not a people to being forced a law or tax or anything else on us as testament by the American Revolution and the Civil War.  Not twenty, thirty or fifty percent need to accept a law but 100% although all may not agree totally.  We are fortunate to be citizens of a country that hopefully comprimise can be achieved.



In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting:
In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting : I'm sure it will be a tough battle. And it is just sad to think the people of this nation will continue to hold on to the right to have assault weapons, while the killing with these specific weapons just keeps increasing. I went to the white house petition site, and there are some that want no banning what so ever, and not one that does want assault weapons banned. We may not be in a government military state.... yet, but we are on a battle ground. Stay alert, you never know who or where the next shooter is going to be coming from. But he's out there. Heck of a way to have to live.
Posted by wisemagic

Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 21, 2013 2:27 PM EST
Posts: 342
First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting:
wisemagic, there are forces that are fighting the President that are stronger than we all can imagine that include but not limited to the NRA.  You and I here in Louisiana are probably the only people who support gun control.  My son, daughter-in-law, friends and relatives are all members of the NRA.  They all believe Obama wants to take their guns and ammo away from them.  They all think it is their God given right to own guns and are blinded by the fact that if you live by the sword you die by the sword.  We are not a people to being forced a law or tax or anything else on us as testament by the American Revolution and the Civil War.  Not twenty, thirty or fifty percent need to accept a law but 100% although all may not agree totally.  We are fortunate to be citizens of a country that hopefully comprimise can be achieved. In Response to Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting :
Posted by creppelrm


You are so right. I know that it may seem as though I am trying to advocate gun control, but really what I think is these assault rifles need to be classified as hand grenades. They are just way too dangerous in the wrong hands.

As far as gun control go's, I think guns should be treated as cars. If you can afford one and want one, then buy it. But it should be registered, and licensed. If you sell it, then the new owner needs to go thru the background check and be cleared to make the purchase. All guns would be tracked just as cars are. If your gun is stolen, report it, just like you would your car. If you sell it to someone that is not cleared thru a background check, then YOU are responsible for any crime committed with it. If you are caught with a stolen or unregistered gun, you do 20 years in the pen. Then people can have guns, and they will have to be responsible for their guns. I don't see where this would be a violation of the 2nd amendment.  The amendment needs to evolve with the times.

Personally, I don't go anywhere without my gun. I use to. I use to not be worried about some crazy S.O.B. going on a shooting spree. But in today's world, I want, at least, a fighting chance.

Stay Alert my friend, they are out there.

Re: It's happened again: 3 Children, 2 Adults Dead in Albuquerque Shooting

posted at January 21, 2013 9:55 PM EST
Posts: 342
First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
DISTURBING

The probable-cause statement describes how the teen says he shot his mother, brother and two sisters in the head with a .22-caliber rifle after midnight Saturday, then waited in a downstairs bathroom before ambushing his father with an AR-15 military-style rifle when he came home about 5 a.m.

He then says he reloaded the semiautomatic weapon -- the type used in the December massacre at the Sandy Hook Elementary School -- and put the both rifles in the family van so "he could drive to a populated area" and shoot people randomly. The Albuquerque Journal reported Monday that he planned to go to the local Walmart.


Authorities said that each victim suffered more than one gunshot wound, and that several guns were found at the scene. The teen reportedly said he retrieved the .22, the AR-15 and two shotguns from his parents' closet. Investigators were trying to determine who owned the guns.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/21/new-mexico-shooting-victims/1850677/

Friends, I can't stress this enough, STAY ALERT.
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