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NO INCOME TAX?

posted at January 18, 2012 9:16 AM EST
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This would be great!
Here is the interview with wall street Journal economist that getting rid of income tax would also mean massive influx of jobs to the United States!
(Ron Paul is the only candidate who proposes that)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjCq6woC_hg

Re: NO INCOME TAX?

posted at January 18, 2012 3:06 PM EST
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In Response to NO INCOME TAX?:
This would be great! Here is the interview with wall street Journal economist that getting rid of income tax would also mean massive influx of jobs to the United States! (Ron Paul is the only candidate who proposes that) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjCq6woC_hg
Posted by Astra2012


Well, so does free ice cream and new cars for everyone, but that doesn’t mean they’re realistic ideas.    OF COURSE he's the only one that proposes no taxes no one else is that ignorant. 
Where did the TWO BUSH TAX  CUTS  create jobs ?       ZERO 
There's your answer.   

The RON PAUL admirers who don't like paying taxes shld immigrate to Somalia cause they have VERY LOW TAXES no Social Security ..no pesky big gov't bureaucrats & EVERYONE owns GUNS. But you might die of famine & diseases. -Most free traders like Ron Paul are so religiously committed to the doctrine that they can't even imagine the possibility that they might be wrong.....we have had free trade in the USA and how has that worked for us ??

Re: NO INCOME TAX?

posted at January 18, 2012 5:33 PM EST
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This is economist there talking--Working in wall Street Journal--I don't think you may call him ignorant.

he was not talking about tax cuts - so you can't compare it
it is really not the same

why you keep talking about that Somalia? stop it. let's focus on the usa.

American people have enough of business as usual.
Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who challenges status quo.
He then is the ONLY one who will change it and I, as many others, think that for the better!

For me the choice is obvious: if you want change  make him the president!

Main contributor to Obama and Romney is Goldman-sachs, to Paul -airforce; but they got millions while he accepts 2500 top

Ron Paul's donors are American people and they would be his top priority! That's why he wants to stop spending OUR money overseas and just not take it from us!

This is a brilliant idea! When we spend this money here our economy will dramatically improve!

Re: NO INCOME TAX?

posted at June 27, 2012 9:39 PM EDT
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About taxes, Ron Paul and gold standard vs fiat money (seems that this guy , Ron Paul supporter, is also not a teenager)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBZkIgAOBQU

Re: NO INCOME TAX?

posted at June 28, 2012 5:14 PM EDT
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 Unlimited campaign contributions are corrupting our democracy there is no doubt about it, but please put the responsibility where it belongs. In  2010  Our  U.S. Supreme Court voted  5 - 4  in favor of allowing billionaires to influence our elections  by allowing the wealthiest to donate  UNLIMITED  amounts of $$$ money to our candidates to make sure  " OUR" 
 Government runs as the wealthy think it should run.  The  Republican's  called the decision " Citizens United ", but should have called it " Greed United"  The 5 Supreme Court Justices appointed by Republican Presidents voted in favor of allowing unlimited billionaire and corporate money  to influence our elections and ultimately our Congress. The 4  Supreme Court Justices, who voted against it were  appointed by Democratic Presidents. The 4  Democratic Supreme Court Justices who voted  against it , stated this decision will create  the " Corruption Of Our Democracy".  Because of that decision by  5 Republican Appointed Supreme Court Justices , the cost of Democracy just went up.
 Right Wing  Republican Billionaire Sheldon Adelson has already donated $ 21 million to Romney and states If he has to he will give $100 million to Romney.  So  why does he have to and what is Mr. Adelson's agenda ? What do you think billionaires like Adelson will want from Romney in return ?   Bilionaires like  Mr. Adelson want influence on legislation, more money, control, power,  tax breaks and loopholes. The billionaires and their corporations would love to get their hands on our Social Security and Medicare. They dont give a darn  about our seniors, disabled, lower  or middle class. This Greed is killing our country and the Democracy it was founded on. When are the insanely rich ever rich enough ?  I dont have any problem with the wealthy doing even better , but not on the struggling backs of our beloved seniors, disabled , lower and middle class
   Just look at the 2013 Ryan Republican Budget and yes thats what you see. More tax breaks for corporations and the top 1%, even lower than the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy, But  it includes massive cuts to Seniors, Disabled, Lower and Middle Class programs, including  $200 billion in cuts to seniors Medicare. The Republicans will then make cuts to  Social Security and where does it end. 
  The Republicans need to stop blaming the deficit on  our seniors Medicare and Social Security costs and admit that the $4 trillion dollar Iraq War and the lost revenue from 10 years of the Bush Tax breaks for corporations and the wealthy are the main cause for this deficit. Several non partisan Economists agree.
   Where did the Ronald Reagan Republicans go ? The ones who cared  about all Americans, not just the top 1%. Even Republican Ronald Reagan raised taxes on corporations and the wealthiest  4 times, because it was the right thing to do for all Americans. Our Democracy is supposed to be  based on political and social equality.
 Todays Republican leaders are so far right wing they're forming a Plutocratic Party.  The wealthiest Americans already enjoy the lowest tax rates in our history and our Republicans leaders are asking to lower that rate even more with the Ryan Republican Budget for 2013,  while cutting benefits on the struggling backs of our Seniors, Disabled , Lower and  Middle Class. Where is the fairness and compassion from our Republican Congress ?
  Money is not speech and corporations are not people.
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This is economist there talking--Working in wall Street Journal--I don't think you may call him ignorant. he was not talking about tax cuts - so you can't compare it it is really not the same why you keep talking about that Somalia? stop it. let's focus on the usa. American people have enough of business as usual. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who challenges status quo. He then is the ONLY one who will change it and I, as many others, think that for the better! For me the choice is obvious: if you want change  make him the president! Main contributor to Obama and Romney is Goldman-sachs, to Paul -airforce; but they got millions while he accepts 2500 top Ron Paul's donors are American people and they would be his top priority! That's why he wants to stop spending OUR money overseas and just not take it from us! This is a brilliant idea! When we spend this money here our economy will dramatically improve!
Posted by Astra2012

Re: NO INCOME TAX?

posted at July 6, 2012 4:29 PM EDT
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money may not be speech as you say but it talks TO US-AMERICAN PEOPLE...

How is Romney - or  Obama- going to spend millions of $$$? on promotion of themselves so we will vote for them---because we allowed everybody to convince  us we MUST choose the lesser of two evils. Why are we so surprised that it is still an evil?


All we do is vote with eyes shut and then HOPE it will be ok.

So where do YOU put blame? on Congress (but WE elrct these peole)? the Supreme court (a joke on justice?)on all Republicans? Do you think all Democrats are ok? (greed comes to both sides of the aisle)

our government has been hijacked by very rich people to whom we are just pawns.
they consider not working seniors a nuisance and need  young people as "cannon fodder"  as they show their power in multiple wars.

it is scary to realize how much they have adanced in few years.

Re: NO INCOME TAX?

posted at July 6, 2012 6:19 PM EDT
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  The difference to me is their agenda. The Sheldon Adelson's and Karl Roves donate millions to the Republicans, so they continue to get tax breaks and  loopholes, so the rich get richer.  For some, it must be a sickness when you're insanely rich, you want to rule the world and you can never have enough. It sure worked  well for the wealthiest  Republicans  under Bush and will positively  work better under Corporate Billionaire Romney. Me, Me and I want More. Society cant afford to keep giving the wealthiest Americans these all time record low tax rates, while asking our beloved seniors and disabled, who are struggling to do with less. Compassion is the word we need to drive home. 
  
When a  Billionaire like Warren Buffett donates money to President Obama, Mr. Buffett knows he wont be getting tax breaks and more loopholes in return and Mr Buffett is not greedy enough to ask for more when he sees our beloved seniors, disabled and  working low and  middle class struggling. No he's one billionaire who wants our country to stay strong and healthy for ALL AMERICANS.
 
Remember when Warren Buffett noticed that he was paying lower taxes than his secretary. He was outraged, but many billionaires told him to keep his mouth shut because he's gonna ruin it for the rest of the wealthy. Mr. Buffett then went to Congress to demand tax fairness, with a Republican Majority in Congress, you can guess how far he got. The Republican leaders laughed at him, like he was insane. No Mr. Buffett is not insane, he has Compassion for those less fortunate. He realizes alot of people get bad breaks in life and he does'nt look down on those working hard, but still struggling.
  Its not a laughing matter for our beloved seniors and disabled who will suffer greatly with the Ryan Republican budget cutting $200 billion from their healthcare and threatening to chop into Social Security.
 
Why in the world would a millionaire or billionaire donate to President Obama, If he was'nt interested in Democracy and helping those who are struggling, because he surely knows his tax rate will go up.The  millionaire who donates to President Obama is willing to pay his or her fair share of taxes. Its about giving back, so the Police Officer, who puts his life on the line for us, still has a job or the Firefighter, who risks his life to save ours,still has a job and the list of contributors goes on and on. We ALL need to do our fair share.
 
Most wealthy Hollywood Elite and Professional Athletes , who donate to President Obama are not greed and money driven enough to dump on our beloved seniors and disabled who are struggling. The wealthy who donate to President Obama are looking for real Democracy with fairness, social and political equality, not tax breaks.. Because they know without the average American going to their movie, sporting event or buying their products, they would'nt be successful. 
 
It's called Compassion and this Republican leadership in Congress has lost it.

n Response to Re: NO INCOME TAX?:
money may not be speech as you say but it talks TO US-AMERICAN PEOPLE... How is Romney - or  Obama- going to spend millions of $$$? on promotion of themselves so we will vote for them---because we allowed everybody to convince  us we MUST choose the lesser of two evils. Why are we so surprised that it is still an evil? All we do is vote with eyes shut and then HOPE it will be ok. So where do YOU put blame? on Congress (but WE elrct these peole)? the Supreme court (a joke on justice?)on all Republicans? Do you think all Democrats are ok? (greed comes to both sides of the aisle) our government has been hijacked by very rich people to whom we are just pawns. they consider not working seniors a nuisance and need  young people as "cannon fodder"  as they show their power in multiple wars. it is scary to realize how much they have adanced in few years.
Posted by Astra2012

Re: NO INCOME TAX?

posted at July 6, 2012 6:51 PM EDT
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First: December 1, 2011
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you seem to belong to Dems camp so ANYTHING they do is ok with you.
NOTHING would prevent Mr. Buffet to give to needy people.
But doing so would not make Americans thinking "how good and selfless he is"

the billionaires do not care about needy people. In November it is just a race for them and they bet on one or the other horse.
But both "stables" belong to the same VERY RICH people.Who said "it  doesn't matter for whom people vote in November, they vote for us".

Re: NO INCOME TAX?

posted at July 6, 2012 7:15 PM EDT
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 But it does matter when we need tax revenue to save Social Security and Medicare. President Obama will end Bush's record low tax rates for the weathiest and return that rate to what Ronald Reagan had it set at. Is that asking too much ? I see alot of seniors and disabled struggling and it breaks me down inside. If we can spend $4 trillion invading Iraq, then we can allow our beloved seniors and disabled to survive with dignity.
 Its all about fairness across the board. Ryan and the Republicans cutting $200 billion from Medicare and threatening to chop Social Security , while giving even bigger tax breaks to the wealthy is outrageous. Romney already said he agrees with Ryan, so it will only get worse If Romney wins.
 I was always a Republican until Bush invaded Iraq and became the only President in history to lower taxes for the wealthy and wage war at the same time. Brilliant move that turned our country upside down. n Response to Re: NO INCOME TAX?:
you seem to belong to Dems camp so ANYTHING they do is ok with you. NOTHING would prevent Mr. Buffet to give to needy people. But doing so would not make Americans thinking "how good and selfless he is" the billionaires do not care about needy people. In November it is just a race for them and they bet on one or the other horse. But both "stables" belong to the same VERY RICH people.Who said "it  doesn't matter for whom people vote in November, they vote for us".
Posted by Astra2012

Re: NO INCOME TAX?

posted at July 7, 2012 11:47 AM EDT
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About taxes, Ron Paul and gold standard vs fiat money (seems that this guy , Ron Paul supporter, is also not a teenager) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBZkIgAOBQU
Posted by Astra2012


Ron Paul wants to end all paper money and revert to a monetary system based on gold,  which would make our nation the only government in the world to use the Gold Standard.     Why stop there congressman,    why not just go all the way back to the barter system like Europe during the dark ages  ?   

 



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