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The Health Gap
posted at January 31, 2012 1:39 AM EST
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Posts: 536
First: August 9, 2011 Last: May 25, 2013 |
Since the death of Canadian skier Sarah Burke in January, fans and supporters from around the world have donated over $300,000 – more than enough to cover the massive U.S. medical bill generated by efforts to save her. The outpouring of grief for Burke and the influx of funds are a tribute to a young woman who was a pioneer and legend in her sport. The need for a fundraiser — to help her grieving family avert bankruptcy — was viewed by some Canadians and U.S. observers as a condemnation of the U.S. health care system. "The irony is that had the accident occurred in Canada… her care would have been covered because, unlike the U.S., Canada has a system of universal coverage," wrote Wendell Potter, an insurance executive-turned-whistleblower who writes for iWatch at the Center for Public Integrity. "No one in Canada finds themselves in that predicament, nor do they face losing their homes as many Americans do when they become critically ill or suffer an injury..." |
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Re: The Health Gap
posted at January 31, 2012 3:59 PM EST
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Posts: 1923
First: November 27, 2011 Last: May 18, 2013 |
In Response to The Health Gap: Since the death of Canadian skier Sarah Burke in January, fans and supporters from around the world have donated over $300,000 – more than enough to cover the massive U.S. medical bill generated by efforts to save her. The outpouring of grief for Burke and the influx of funds are a tribute to a young woman who was a pioneer and legend in her sport. The need for a fundraiser — to help her grieving family avert bankruptcy — was viewed by some Canadians and U.S. observers as a condemnation of the U.S. health care system. "The irony is that had the accident occurred in Canada… her care would have been covered because, unlike the U.S., Canada has a system of universal coverage," wrote Wendell Potter , an insurance executive-turned-whistleblower who writes for iWatch at the Center for Public Integrity. "No one in Canada finds themselves in that predicament, nor do they face losing their homes as many Americans do when they become critically ill or suffer an injury..." If you are not a famous athlete and your parents find themselves in her parents position they can place glass jars in convience stores with your picture on it with a note discribing what happened to you and maybe you will collect pocket change for your hospital cost. Posted by creppelrm I am sorry for what happened to her and for her grieving family but there seems to be some controvesy in your post and what I am reading elsewhere. Wikipedia says: "Because the event at which she fell was unsanctioned and hosted by Burke's sponsor Monster Energy, Burke was not covered under the insurance policy that applied to her when she competed for the Canada Freestyle Ski Association. " CBC News: British Columbia - 01/20/2012 Sarah Burke's medical bills covered by donations - Canadian freestyle skier's accident was not covered by ski association's insurance CBC News says: "Peter Judge, CEO of the Canadian Freestyle Skiing Association, says its athletes have excellent insurance when they are competing for the association, but said Burke was not covered by the program because her accident happened during an unsanctioned event. "She was in the U.S. taking part in a third-party training opportunity, something that was separate to our program," said Judge. "The Canadian Snow Sports Association has a very comprehensive policy which covers these kinds of situations, but unfortunately in this instance she was involved in a third party event which was not part of the program and as such was not under the umbrella of coverage," said Judge. |
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Re: The Health Gap
posted at January 31, 2012 4:33 PM EST
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Posts: 536
First: August 9, 2011 Last: May 25, 2013 |
The fact is that Canada health care system is light years ahead of the Greatest Nation on Earth. Regardless how you dissect the accident. In Response to Re: The Health Gap: In Response to The Health Gap : I am sorry for what happened to her and for her grieving family but there seems to be some controvesy in your post and what I am reading elsewhere. Wikipedia says: "Because the event at which she fell was unsanctioned and hosted by Burke's sponsor Monster Energy , Burke was not covered under the insurance policy that applied to her when she competed for the Canada Freestyle Ski Association. " CBC News: British Columbia - 01/20/2012 Sarah Burke's medical bills covered by donations - Canadian freestyle skier's accident was not covered by ski association's insurance CBC News says: "Peter Judge, CEO of the Canadian Freestyle Skiing Association, says its athletes have excellent insurance when they are competing for the association, but said Burke was not covered by the program because her accident happened during an unsanctioned event. "She was in the U.S. taking part in a third-party training opportunity, something that was separate to our program," said Judge. "The Canadian Snow Sports Association has a very comprehensive policy which covers these kinds of situations, but unfortunately in this instance she was involved in a third party event which was not part of the program and as such was not under the umbrella of coverage," said Judge. Posted by GailL1 |
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Re: The Health Gap
posted at January 31, 2012 7:24 PM EST
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Posts: 1923
First: November 27, 2011 Last: May 18, 2013 |
In Response to Re: The Health Gap: The fact is that Canada health care system is light years ahead of the Greatest Nation on Earth. Regardless how you dissect the accident. In Response to Re: The Health Gap : Posted by creppelrm Sounds to me like they have some of the same problem we do - Reuters: Canadian health system too expensive: report November 2011 AND they have some of the same kinds of debates - who pays and how much: CBC News: January 2012 PM urges premiers to put health funding issue aside - Premiers push for more 'dialogue' on health care "The CBC's Chris Hall, reporting from the meeting in Victoria, said that as they headed into their talks, none of the premiers ruled out more private, for-profit health care, or the possibility Canadians may not get the same level of service in each and every province." |
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Re: The Health Gap
posted at January 31, 2012 8:07 PM EST
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Posts: 536
First: August 9, 2011 Last: May 25, 2013 |
Understandable, but still better then anything we could expect. In Response to Re: The Health Gap: In Response to Re: The Health Gap : Sounds to me like they have some of the same problem we do - Reuters: Canadian health system too expensive: report November 2011 AND they have some of the same kinds of debates - who pays and how much: CBC News: January 2012 PM urges premiers to put health funding issue aside - Premiers push for more 'dialogue' on health care "The CBC's Chris Hall, reporting from the meeting in Victoria, said that as they headed into their talks, none of the premiers ruled out more private, for-profit health care, or the possibility Canadians may not get the same level of service in each and every province." Posted by GailL1 |
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Re: The Health Gap
posted at February 4, 2012 1:46 PM EST
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Posts: 12532
First: February 29, 2008 Last: May 17, 2013 |
Iadn Response to Re: The Health Gap: The fact is that Canada health care system is light years ahead of the Greatest Nation on Earth. Regardless how you dissect the accident. In Response to Re: The Health Gap : Posted by creppelrm B.C. Premier Christy Clark declared "I don't care where you live, if it's Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island, Victoria, British Columbia or downtown Edmonton, every Canadian deserves the best possible health care." ( NO USA REPUBLICAN SAYS THAT !!!) It is true that Canada’s system is not the same as the U.S. system. It’s designed to deliver a somewhat different product, to a population that has somewhat different expectations. But the end result is that the vast majority of Canadians get the vast majority of what they need the vast majority of the time. It’ll be a good day when when Americans can hold their heads high and proudly make that same declaration as Canadians who get what they need the vast majority of the time. Canada’s health care system is NOT “socialized medicine.” In socialized medical systems, the doctors work directly for the state. In Canada (and many other countries with universal care), doctors run their own private practices, just like they do in the US. The only difference is that every doctor deals with one insurer, instead of 150. And that insurer is the provincial government, which is accountable to the legislature and the voters if the quality of coverage is allowed to slide. |