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and since that ban gun crime SIGNIFICANTLY rose Criminals who always get it are sure the law-abiding people are not armed here they think twice before e.g. home invasion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
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guns are banned in Australia

posted at January 31, 2013 5:48 PM EST
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Last: May 7, 2013
and since that ban gun crime SIGNIFICANTLY rose
Criminals who always get it are sure the law-abiding people are not armed
here they think twice before e.g. home invasion


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si9ICY9tB4A

Re: guns are banned in Australia

posted at January 31, 2013 8:39 PM EST
Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
  Astra, The President is not talking about banning all guns, only the high capacity Assault Style Weapons.  If a person cant defend themselves with a 10 round 45 caliber handgun, then maybe they should'nt be carrying any firearm. I've never heard of anyone ever  using a 30-50 round Assault Rifle to defend themselves against a robbery suspect. 
  Gun Registration and Background checks for ALL gun purchases is only common sense in my book and that is also what the President is advocating. Sure these measures wont stop all gun related deaths, but we have to start saving as many lives as we can, while still defending our right to bear arms.Response to guns are banned in Australia:
and since that ban gun crime SIGNIFICANTLY rose Criminals who always get it are sure the law-abiding people are not armed here they think twice before e.g. home invasion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si9ICY9tB4A
Posted by Astra2012

Re: guns are banned in Australia

posted at February 1, 2013 5:03 PM EST
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Last: May 7, 2013
i'm all for registration and background checks-- but that woman in CT would still get the gun and we know she was not keeping her gun locked.Gun owners should be responsible, but how you check it?

I'm glad we have 2nd amendmend and good guys can bear ams--some robbery attempts were stopped because of that!
many potential muggers had to run away because someone carried a gun

Re: guns are banned in Australia

posted at February 1, 2013 5:30 PM EST
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First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 22, 2013
What is driving this gun crazed society of ours is FEAR.  And it's spreading just like the plague.  The fires are being fanned by the NRA, Republicans, Tea Party etc.  Home invasions are the least of your worries.  That is not the ones doing the killing.  The ones doing the killing are people who others thought would never do anything like that.  It's people from families that go to church on Sunday,  who you would think were responsible people. And it's part of the plague we are bringing on ourselves.  If you are ever part of this insanity shootings you won't even suspect when it happens and will be to shocked to respond.  I saw a video once of a police officer making a traffic stop and the guy got out the car and pulled a gun when the policeman saw the guy pull the gun he pulled his they both started shooting not even looking where they were shooting they both ran out of bullets without hitting each other even though they were only a car length apart.  The guy jumped in the car and sped away. the policeman following.  If there were anyone nearby they would have probably been shot.  If you are a person who can take careful aim while being shot at yourself then you deserve to have a gun.  Not many people can boost that without being in combat for any amount of time.  You see the people who are doing these sneseless killings are not afraid to die, they plan for months what they will do and do it with no emotions.

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and since that ban gun crime SIGNIFICANTLY rose Criminals who always get it are sure the law-abiding people are not armed here they think twice before e.g. home invasion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si9ICY9tB4A
Posted by Astra2012

Re: guns are banned in Australia

posted at February 1, 2013 5:43 PM EST
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First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
I suppose it depends on what source you get these facts from, but.....

...there is a wide consensus that our 1996 reforms not only reduced the gun-related homicide rate, but also the suicide rate. The Australian Institute of Criminology found that gun-related murders and suicides fell sharply after 1996. The American Journal of Law and Economics found that our gun buyback scheme cut firearm suicides by 74 percent. In the 18 years before the 1996 reforms, Australia suffered 13 gun massacres — each with more than four victims — causing a total of 102 deaths. There has not been a single massacre in that category since 1996.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/17/australia-s-example-for-controlling-guns.html


Gun violence hasn't been completely eliminated in Australia. But gun-control advocates are quick to point out that there hasn't been a single mass shooting in the 16 years since the laws came into effect.

http://www.npr.org/2012/12/21/167814684/australians-urge-u-s-to-look-at-their-gun-laws

Re: guns are banned in Australia

posted at February 1, 2013 5:48 PM EST
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First: February 29, 2008
Last: May 17, 2013
In Response to Re: guns are banned in Australia:
What is driving this gun crazed society of ours is FEAR.  And it's spreading just like the plague.  The fires are being fanned by the NRA, Republicans, Tea Party etc.  Home invasions are the least of your worries.  That is not the ones doing the killing.  The ones doing the killing are people who others thought would never do anything like that.  It's people from families that go to church on Sunday,  who you would think were responsible people. And it's part of the plague we are bringing on ourselves.  If you are ever part of this insanity shootings you won't even suspect when it happens and will be to shocked to respond.  I saw a video once of a police officer making a traffic stop and the guy got out the car and pulled a gun when the policeman saw the guy pull the gun he pulled his they both started shooting not even looking where they were shooting they both ran out of bullets without hitting each other even though they were only a car length apart.  The guy jumped in the car and sped away. the policeman following.  If there were anyone nearby they would have probably been shot.  If you are a person who can take careful aim while being shot at yourself then you deserve to have a gun.  Not many people can boost that without being in combat for any amount of time.  You see the people who are doing these sneseless killings are not afraid to die, they plan for months what they will do and do it with no emotions. In Response to guns are banned in Australia :
Posted by creppelrm


My son and his "friend" got in an argument and the 11 year old threatened to shoot him cause he knew where the key to the guns were hid. ...( my son ran home---we were lucky) 

If someone is breaking in my house do I shout  WAIT TIL I GET MY GUN  or do I carry around with me.   Besides, Criminals break in homes when people aren't there for the most part. 

I don't see the purpose of the 2nd Amendment which was written for the time of  MUSKETS and when people hunted for their own food and there was no police or FBI .   

When the NRA wants to arm schools----what are they going to do when kids go to movies,  or Chucky-CHeeses or the MALL or the playgrounds .....arm them too-----and make us a POLICE STATE. 

FORget it....this country will NEVER get to a point of using common sense. ....because kids are taught from very early on that killing stuff that is no threat  is FUN.       So they often go kill people they don't especially  like.    Growing up they become obsessed with guns because the NRA promotes it  and it becomes a gang-mentality.      

Re: guns are banned in Australia

posted at February 2, 2013 2:34 PM EST
Posts: 342
First: October 13, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
In Response to Re: guns are banned in Australia:
In Response to Re: guns are banned in Australia : My son and his "friend" got in an argument and the 11 year old threatened to shoot him cause he knew where the key to the guns were hid. ...( my son ran home---we were lucky)  If someone is breaking in my house do I shout  WAIT TIL I GET MY GUN  or do I carry around with me.   Besides, Criminals break in homes when people aren't there for the most part.  I don't see the purpose of the 2nd Amendment which was written for the time of  MUSKETS and when people hunted for their own food and there was no police or FBI .    When the NRA wants to arm schools----what are they going to do when kids go to movies,  or Chucky-CHeeses or the MALL or the playgrounds .....arm them too-----and make us a POLICE STATE.  FORget it....this country will NEVER get to a point of using common sense. ....because kids are taught from very early on that killing stuff that is no threat  is FUN.       So they often go kill people they don't especially  like.    Growing up they become obsessed with guns because the NRA promotes it  and it becomes a gang-mentality.      
Posted by JANMB


I think I would contact the "friends" parents about it first, then if no reasonable response, I'd inform the police.

If someone is breaking in my house... and nights, I keep a revolver in a "safe place" for quick access. All others are locked in the gun safe.

And as a POLICE STATE, we are already on a battlefield.

More than 87% of gun owners and 74% of NRA members support background checks for all gun sales. It's a start.

http://www.demandaplan.org/detail/2012-09-poll-of-nra-members-shows-strong-support-for-common

Re: guns are banned in Australia

posted at February 18, 2013 9:29 AM EST
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First: February 18, 2013
Last: February 18, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52pMg8qQcc&feature=share

Here is a view from Canada regarding gun ban. Check the link above

Re: guns are banned in Australia

posted at February 18, 2013 10:03 PM EST
Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
  Fear mongering to try and stop any changes to gun laws  in the U.S. Even after more Americans have been killed by guns since 1968 than in ALL Wars combined starting back with  the Revolutionary War. Response to Re: guns are banned in Australia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52pMg8qQcc&feature=share Here is a view from Canada regarding gun ban. Check the link above
Posted by konrado

Re: guns are banned in Australia

posted at March 5, 2013 12:52 AM EST
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First: February 15, 2013
Last: May 21, 2013

I am a "survivor" of gun violence, sort of.  My son-in-law shot and killed my daughter, my two preschool grandchildren and himself fifteen years ago.  He wasn't supposed to have a gun.  He had been convicted of aggravated assault and the police should have confiscated all his firearms.  Because he was a hunter, they let him keep his 12 gauge shotgun. It turns out you can do more than hunt with a 12 gauge.  If the law had been strictly enforced, the tragedy might not have happened.  However, if we had paid more attention to his mental health, it might not have happened either.  Just something to consider in the midst of all this discussion.

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