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Looking to see if AARP or anyone had suggested that the people put an amendment to the Constitution on the ballot to delegalize the Government Employees SS plan and Health Insurance. They should not h
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posted at October 24, 2011 8:43 PM EDT
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Looking to see if AARP or anyone had suggested that the people put an amendment to the Constitution on the ballot to delegalize the Government Employees SS plan and Health Insurance. They should not have been able to exempt all Gov employees from SS and pad their own pockets so well, it destroys the balance of power that was intended by our forefathers. It should be retroactive and put all of them in SS just like the rest of us. That would probably save more than the cuts they are proposing to our plan without cutting theirs by one red cent. They will never change it themselves and the Justice Dept will never say that it is illegal because they are all in bed together lineing their pockets.
We should also get rid of all lobbyists but that is another story for another day.

Re: Government & Elections

posted at October 28, 2011 5:25 AM EDT
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https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

Whether the above actually happens.....it should put a scare into DC that the people are truly fed up   Of course FOX news commentators call the OCCUPY 99% dirty-names and think they should just "eat cake".    But the OCCUPY  are just Americans.....seniors,  veterans of present and prior wars,  Moms,  students,  the unemployed or underemployed.......

Re: Government & Elections

posted at December 6, 2011 10:58 AM EST
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Even Fox has great people- like e g Judge Napolitano...
He is always fair and I never had impression that he is disconnected from American 99%

Anyway, these demands  to be taken seriously require solidarity- because the power of 99%  is in numbers! And greater involvement in political life - which is not easy: most people listen to mainstream media (which are own by 1%)  and imo are programed into believing what they are told..

I see it now with the GOP nomination. Media picks the candidte (Romney) - makes a lot of noise with other candidates (Perry, Cain now Gingrich)- and then makes us believe he is the one we picked! All the time media black-out real candidates= those who are for the people like Ron Paul! They try to ignore him, ridicule  him or call him names (Fox is leading! but some others help; )
or he is misunderstood by people who listen not to him talking but to media takim about him or just skillfully edit his replies in the interviews.

So it always comes to one thing: EDUCATE YOURSELF! Go to www.youtube.com and in search box write what you want to know

Re: Government & Elections

posted at December 9, 2011 1:44 PM EST
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''Read Dr. Paul’s End the Fed. You’ll be in for a surprise. Hans Sennholz (in Money and Freedom) called the creation of the Fed “the most tragic blunder ever committed by Congress” — a view I know is not shared by Mitt Romney, for one. Before the creation of the Fed in 1913, Ludwig von Mises, in The Theory of Money and Credit, warned that the creation of central banks would worsen and spread business cycles rather than eliminate them.

Today’s Fed travesty is a perfect example. The Fed lends to Wall Street for basically nothing, while it allows America’s retired savers to earn nothing on their life’s savings. Among Dr. Paul’s conclusions: “Nothing good can come from the Federal Reserve. It is the biggest taxer of them all. Diluting the value of the dollar by increasing its supply is a vicious, sinister tax on the poor and middle class.”


Above I'm quoting http://www.investorplace.com/2011/11/ron-paul-gop-republican-nomination/?utm_source=OB_IPM

Re: Government & Elections

posted at December 19, 2011 5:33 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Government & Elections:
''Read Dr. Paul’s End the Fed . You’ll be in for a surprise. Hans Sennholz (in Money and Freedom ) called the creation of the Fed “the most tragic blunder ever committed by Congress” — a view I know is not shared by Mitt Romney, for one. Before the creation of the Fed in 1913, Ludwig von Mises, in The Theory of Money and Credit, warned that the creation of central banks would worsen and spread business cycles rather than eliminate them. Today’s Fed travesty is a perfect example. The Fed lends to Wall Street for basically nothing, while it allows America’s retired savers to earn nothing on their life’s savings. Among Dr. Paul’s conclusions: “Nothing good can come from the Federal Reserve. It is the biggest taxer of them all. Diluting the value of the dollar by increasing its supply is a vicious, sinister tax on the poor and middle class.” Above I'm quoting http://www.investorplace.com/2011/11/ron-paul-gop-republican-nomination/?utm_source=OB_IPM
Posted by Astra2012



The reason, of course, is that

taxes were cut in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2006.

It would have been one thing if the Bush tax cuts had at least bought the country 



a higher rate of economic growth, even temporarily. 



They did not. 



Real G.D.P. growth peaked at just 3.6 percent in 2004 before fading rapidly. Even before the crisis hit, real G.D.P. was growing less than 2 percent a year.

By contrast, after the 1982 and 1993 tax increases, growth was much more robust. 



Real G.D.P. rose 7.2 percent in 1984 and continued to rise at more than 3 percent a year for the balance of the 1980s.

Real G.D.P. growth was 4.1 percent in 1994 despite widespread predictions by opponents of the 1993 tax increase that it would bring on another recession. 

Real growth averaged 4 percent for the balance of the 1990s. 



By contrast, real G.D.P. growth in the nonrecession years of the 2000s averaged just 2.7 percent a year — barely above the postwar average.

---so, even leading pub thinker says pub politicians dead wrong---

-----so, job creators created more jobs after Clinton's small tax increase

than they have in the almost 10 years since bush tax cuts started-----

THESE ARE FACTS FROM A PUB, DO YOU GET IT?

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