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Election 2012 Debate Season
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Election 2012 Debate Season
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Here's the schedule for the debates between the presidential and vice presidential candidates. October 3 President Barack Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney Topic : Domestic policy Moderator: Jim Lehrer, hos
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season
posted at October 21, 2012 8:26 AM EDT
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Posts: 46
First: March 31, 2009 Last: October 21, 2012 |
In Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season: Romney wins an ryan hands down. Posted by genknorr Mitt Romney Lost The Debate (Romney/Ryan Motto & The GOP: If You Can't Impress Them With Brilliance, Baffle Them With BS) By Being On The Offensive All Night But Never Answering What He Would Replace The Healthcare (Obama Care), His Answer: When I'm Elected We Will Figure It Out And While He's Figuring It Out 23 Million People Go Without Health Care. How You Would Lower The Deficit Answer: Keep In Place The Bush Tax Cuts For The Rich And Add 2 Trillion Dollars To Defense, How Would He pay For The 7 Trillion Dollar 9 (which he now denies flip flop) Addition To The Deficit; Oh I Don't Know Ah Remove Unnecessary Programs (education, Medicaid, Medicare (add a voucher system), Remove The Dodd-Frank Law Removing The Regulations From Wall Street And The Rich Financial Institutions Would Run Wild And A Lot Of Innocent People With Their Money In Retirement Funds Would Be At Risk Of Being Taken Down The Same Road That Got Us Here In The First Place. The President Was More Aggressive And Asked Mr Romney About The 47% Comment That He Made (the genuine Mitt Romney), Ryan Made The Same Or Similar Comment A Few Days After Saying The 47% Would Have To Work And Pay Taxes. I Believe The 47% Romney Was Referring To Were The Retired, Disabled, Veterans, The Under Employed, And The People Who Through No Fault Of Their Own Are Unemployed. The President Explained The Tax Reform He Would Take: Keep The Cuts For The Middle Class The Same And Remove The Tax Cuts For The Very Rich By Rolling The Taxes To The Clinton Years When We Had A Surplus, Remove The Tax Breaks For Oil, Company's That Out Source Out Of Our Country And Giving Tax Incentives To Company's Keep There Employment Here In The USA. Keep Obama Care Which Forces Insurance Company's To Compete Causing Rates To Stop Rising, Keeping 23 Million Americans Insured Allowing Them Peace Of Mind For Their Families. I Am Supporting President Obama Because He Seems To Be The Only One With Answers To Our Problems And Not Elect Us (Romney/Ryan) And We Will Figure It Out Later. :0) |
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season
posted at October 21, 2012 1:00 PM EDT
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Posts: 60
First: May 26, 2012 Last: May 26, 2013 |
Next debate is supposed to focus on foreign policy. The Republican have politicized the deaths in Libya...disingenuously raising issues they know have no solution within rational bounds. Consider: 1. Our Embassies and Consultates have diplomatic personnel AND armed military personnel whose function is to secure the perimeter and interior of the enclave. Inside the perimeter is the United States of America....Outside the perimeter is Libya. The perimeter is a National Border. 2. The US security forces are severely limited in number. Weaponry is light....limited in range and effect....geared primarily to prevent breach of the perimeter, not elimination of all threat existing outside the perimeter. Firing into the Host Nation Citizenry at extended distances outward from the perimeter has negative consequences....That action is way down on the options list. 3. Libya is tasked with securing the enclave from threat in the area outside the perimeter....immediate and remote. Libya can't control its own populace at present.....so can't defend the Consulate effectively. Religious, political and tribal factions are heavily armed with weaponry whose range allows effective fire from a remote distance.....with little chance of effective return fire from any opposing force, including the US military, outmanned and outgunned, sequestered within a small space. Regardless of that reality, the US relied on Libya for protection from violence. Real protection would have required actual occupation of Libya with forces fully capable of decimating any potential threat AND the willingness to indiscriminately use it in whatever way deemed necessary by boots on the ground...or in the air....or offshore in a missile cruiser. So... the US couldn't act effectively to defend the Consulate under the rules in place. It couldn't really be done. Our Intelligence, Foreign Service and Military personnel in Embassy Service know all that full well.....and do it anyway. Heroes doing the work of Patriots, they are....all of them. You would be lucky to count any of them your friend. The Republicans know all that full well too. Yet they choose to put our National Interests in the Middle East at risk and use the dedication and deaths of these heroes for political purpose. Despicable, I say! Nothing much different from past behavior of the Radical Right since the days of Joe McCarthy. |
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season
posted at October 21, 2012 3:41 PM EDT
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First: June 10, 2012 Last: October 21, 2012 |
DEBATE “What and who to believe” Like most of us listening to the debates, “who do you believe” with all the untruths and stretching the truth to play to each party’s base. Be it Democrats or Republicans. Here is what I would suggest you do after each debate. As an Independent voter I would like to suggest voters go to factcheck.org as one source to get the Truth before leaving or forming any opinions. Remember, both parties and candidates are counting on voters being ill-informed and lazy,or worse—duped into believing what they hear or see on the Radio and TV or a Movie. It is important that you as voters have the knowledge that you need to vote the issues and correct candidates. Then leave your comments on “You've Earned A Say” which is a welcome format for voters to voice their opinions. This is America you have a right to your own opinions,but however you do not have right to your own facts. I vote as a informed voter, so should you.
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season
posted at October 22, 2012 12:55 PM EDT
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Posts: 360
First: October 13, 2012 Last: June 15, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season: Important questions for Romney/Ryan about their SS “plan”: 1. Where does the money come from for vouchers? 2. How much would a voucher be worth, and would they all be the same amount? 3. What happens when the voucher runs out? The end? 4. If nobody under 55 will get SS when they reach 65 or 70, doesn’t that mean people will no longer be paying into SS for present benefits? So for people currently receiving SS, where would that money come from? Posted by JimandKaren16 The money for the vouchers still comes from taxes. Just like it does now, you contribute to Medicare from your paycheck. This may help people with questions on Ryan's Voucher plan What the Heck Are Medicare Vouchers?A Rundown On What They Do, How They’re Meant To Help, and Why They Probably Won’tSample:To see how Ryan’s plan might look in an ideal world, imagine Fred, age 70, who has $10,000 with which to purchase health insurance. He can choose a plan from Aetna or Kaiser or Cigna, each plan with different benefits and limits. His choices would, in short, be much like those most people under 65 have today. While healthcare costs would be substantially covered, there would be no blank check. All of Medicare’s beneficiaries—people like Fred—would be active consumers, using their vouchers to select the firms that respond to their demands. Because insurance firms would compete for customers on price and quality, the rate of medical inflation would go down.
But that’s in an ideal world. For all the superficial attractiveness of medical vouchers, they come with many problems. For one thing, Fred might be in poor health. Maybe he has diabetes and prostate cancer, and he needs extensive medical attention. No insurance firm in the free market would want to cover Fred, when it could instead take on Bill, age 66, fit and healthy and still playing tennis. To prevent such discrimination, insurers would have to be subject to regulations that would set minimum standards for care and ban discrimination against unhealthy customers. Or else Medicare would have to adjust the voucher sum to the risks of different patients, a task that would be hugely costly and administratively complex. Another problem is that if medical inflation were to increase faster than the value of the voucher in the years to come, Joe’s voucher would buy less and less health coverage and his out-of-pocket costs would increase. http://tinyurl.com/97vbdyd |
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season
posted at October 22, 2012 3:58 PM EDT
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First: October 12, 2012 Last: October 22, 2012 |
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season
posted at October 23, 2012 10:25 AM EDT
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Posts: 59
First: March 18, 2011 Last: October 23, 2012 |
A couple of takes on presidential debate #3: Check Point: Looking Closely At Statements From Candidates On Foreign Policy Who knew that fact-checking the sole foreign policy debate of the presidential campaign would include the ranking of Massachusetts schools and how best to administer Medicaid? Repeatedly, the two candidates swerved to the economic issues that have dominated the campaign — New York Times Obama, Romney Aim For Swing Vote In Final Debate In Florida Republicans remain worried that Obama's extensive get-out-the-vote operation could carry him, and Democrats are concerned that heightened enthusiasm for Romney could give him an edge. As many as 1 in 10 Florida voters may be up for grabs, and Fernando Valladrez is among them. … Valladrez voted for Obama in 2008 but says he agrees with Romney on social issues, such as abortion and whether Catholic hospitals should pay for employee insurance coverage for contraceptives, though he doesn't like Romney's position on immigration — Los Angeles Times |
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season
posted at October 23, 2012 6:23 PM EDT
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First: March 18, 2011 Last: October 23, 2012 |
The Third Party Debate, billed by sponsor Free & Equal as a historic presidential debate, begins tonight at 9 ET. The third party candidates: Gary Johnson, Libertarian Party Jill Stein, Green Party Virgil Goode, Constitution Party Rocky Anderson, Justice Party You can watch a live stream of the debate here. Talk show host Larry King will moderate tonight's debate in Chicago. Viewers will choose via instant runoff voting online which two candidates advance to a final debate on Oct. 30. The debate will be broadcast live online and will focus on international issues. Here's a piece about Johnson and Stein's views on Medicare and Social Security. |
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season
posted at October 24, 2012 6:20 PM EDT
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First: May 28, 2012 Last: June 10, 2013 |
jmccoy61, You would trust a man, who made hundreds of millions of dollars sending our jobs to Communist China and now says " We must stop China from stealing our jobs ". Sure Mitt, now that you have your multi millions hidden in overseas accounts, you will do what's right. I'm sorry Mitt, but you're GREED is the problem with our economy and you should be ashamed of yourself. Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season: In fact, on September 20, 2012, Kimberly A. Strassel of the Wall Street Journal wrote: "Thanks to just-released emails from the House Energy and Commerce Committee, we now know that AARP worked through 2009-2010 as an extension of a Democratic White House, toiling daily to pass a health bill that slashes $716 billion from Medicare, strips seniors of choice, and sets the stage for rationing. We know that despite AARP's awareness that its seniors overwhelmingly opposed the bill, the ‘nonpartisan organization' chose to serve the president's agenda. The 71 pages of emails show an AARP management taking orders from the White House, scripting the president's talking points, working to keep its board ‘in line' and pledging a fealty to ‘the cause.' Seniors deserve to know all this, as AARP seeks to present itself as neutral in this presidential election."
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season
posted at October 24, 2012 6:28 PM EDT
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Posts: 587
First: May 28, 2012 Last: June 10, 2013 |
Well said bhartl2, I cant watch Fox because its not news its gossip. Its sad that you have to go to the Congressional Budget Office website or politifact.com to verify the crap you hear. Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season: DEBATE “What and who to believe” Like most of us listening to the debates, “who do you believe” with all the untruths and stretching the truth to play to each party’s base. Be it Democrats or Republicans. Here is what I would suggest you do after each debate. As an Independent voter I would like to suggest voters go to factcheck.org as one source to get the Truth before leaving or forming any opinions. Remember, both parties and candidates are counting on voters being ill-informed and lazy,or worse—duped into believing what they hear or see on the Radio and TV or a Movie. It is important that you as voters have the knowledge that you need to vote the issues and correct candidates. Then leave your comments on “You've Earned A Say” which is a welcome format for voters to voice their opinions. This is America you have a right to your own opinions,but however you do not have right to your own facts. I vote as a informed voter, so should you. Posted by bhartl2 |
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