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Election 2012 Debate Season
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Election 2012 Debate Season
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Here's the schedule for the debates between the presidential and vice presidential candidates. October 3 President Barack Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney Topic : Domestic policy Moderator: Jim Lehrer, hos
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Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at October 31, 2012 2:40 AM EDT
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 Unfortunately many people are spooked or intimidated easily. Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season :
Posted by mandm84


That is true. Sad seeing what the Republican party has become.

Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at November 2, 2012 12:16 PM EDT
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First: May 26, 2012
Last: May 20, 2013
On the off chance you are still undecided in this POTUS election, consider this:

-The factions supporting Ryan/Romney [transposition is deliberate] are the same folks who deny the evidence for Global Warming itself.  More importantly, Ryan appears to share these beliefs and Romney is willing to pander to them for political purpose.....oh, yes.....and now tries to walk backwards from what he did when he talks to you.

-Those same folks deny the age of the earth.  The evidence established by scientific method means nothing in comparison to religious dogma.

-Those same folks deny the evidence time line that puts dinosaurs in a different era than humans....for the same reason.

-Those same folks deny the evidence that man is a major contributor to Global Warming despite ninety eight percent....98%......of real scientists with actual degrees and credentials agreeing with that evidence.

-And have the gall to claim these guys are all wrong and that their beliefs are right.  Oh, by the way, belief is defined as confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptibe to rigorous proof.  i.e. ...non-rational. 

I could go on and on, but.....If you don't get the idea, I'm talking to the wrong person. These are the same folks who  flood the forums with e-mail paste-ups from right wing propaganda pits without bothering to check for truth....The same ones who pack the primaries with true-believers, cutting the honorable candidates off at the knees and leaving you with a moral midget as your only choice within their party.  Republicans....I am sorry for your loss....but it is your fault this has come to pass. Clean up your House.....start with getting rid of the "hollow man without a core" and his sidekick.

Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at November 3, 2012 2:48 AM EDT
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  As soon as I found out Paul Ryan's wife, Janna, has worked for years as a Wash. DC Lobbyist for the Private Healthcare companies that are trying to dismantle Medicare and kill Obamacare, I heard enough. The fix is in !!!n Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season :
Posted by mandm84
  + XLNT POST; THANK YOU!

All voters who want to end Medicare in favor of private health insurance that will cost more for the same benefits should vote for Republicans; read below.

I worked in public health care admin for 25 years. The Republicans want to gradually privatize Medicare(MC), even though the cost of  the current fed  MC admin is less than half compared to private health insurance. Privatization  of MC would cost $BILLIONS = HIGHER COSTS FOR MC RECIPIENTS. The GOP plan starts with voluntary choice of private MC or fed MC; however, here is how their plan would bankrupt fed run Medicare, and leave no choice for all except higher cost private insurance:
THE GOP PLAN FOR MEDICARE:
1. Allow seniors the option to buy private insurance with a fed voucher.

2. Do not increase the value of the voucher to keep up with health care ins cost.

3. Allow seniors to return to Medicare coverage when their private insurance cost increases due to age and illness.

4. This will allow the private ins cos to maximize profits because the seniors will return to   FEDERAL Medicare during the years of most of their highest medical expenses.
5. This plan will bankrupt Medicare: private insurers get the patients when they use less care, FEDERAL Medicare gets the patients when they need the most care.

6. Private insurers will donate $MILLIONS to the GOP.

Also, the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office report concluded thet the GOP to repeal Obamacare would shorten the life of the Medicare fund by 8 years.
GOP proposed cuts to Medicaid would kick millions of children, disabled and seniors under age 65 off Medicaid.

It is your choice on November 6.

Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at November 3, 2012 3:31 AM EDT
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Last: November 3, 2012
The Republicans used to be a reasonable party, but with the advent of the Tea Party, it's lost its collective minds.
I vote by absentee ballot and I do hope I voted for the right person. Frankly, neither party has the right candidate. To presrve my right to vote, I decided on the lesser of evils. Sad sad sad.
I live on an island in Alaska and I don't have tv, but you can be sure, I will be glued to NPR /PBS radio as the votes are counted and I want to hear the commentary.   I do wish I could see the whole thing however.

God ; Please Bless us ALL. We sure need it.


Kathryn

Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at November 3, 2012 3:32 AM EDT
Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
  How right you are !!!  The Republican plan for healthcare is to dismantle Medicare into a death sentence for us with their vouchers. Vote Republican and kiss affordable healthcare goodbye !!! Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season:
In Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season :   + XLNT POST; THANK YOU! All voters who want to end Medicare in favor of private health insurance that will cost more for the same benefits should vote for Republicans; read below. I worked in public health care admin for 25 years. The Republicans want to gradually privatize Medicare(MC), even though the cost of  the current fed  MC admin is less than half compared to private health insurance. Privatization  of MC would cost $BILLIONS = HIGHER COSTS FOR MC RECIPIENTS. The GOP plan starts with voluntary choice of private MC or fed MC; however, here is how their plan would bankrupt fed run Medicare, and leave no choice for all except higher cost private insurance: THE GOP PLAN FOR MEDICARE: 1. Allow seniors the option to buy private insurance with a fed voucher. 2. Do not increase the value of the voucher to keep up with health care ins cost. 3. Allow seniors to return to Medicare coverage when their private insurance cost increases due to age and illness. 4. This will allow the private ins cos to maximize profits because the seniors will return to   FEDERAL Medicare during the years of most of their highest medical expenses. 5. This plan will bankrupt Medicare: private insurers get the patients when they use less care, FEDERAL Medicare gets the patients when they need the most care. 6. Private insurers will donate $MILLIONS to the GOP. Also, the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office report concluded thet the GOP to repeal Obamacare would shorten the life of the Medicare fund by 8 years. GOP proposed cuts to Medicaid would kick millions of children, disabled and seniors under age 65 off Medicaid. It is your choice on November 6.
Posted by ewrzjc7037

Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at November 3, 2012 1:36 PM EDT
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First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
  Kathryn, you're not missing much without channels like Fox, who are so biased against anything the Democrats do or say. Fox TV is a Tea Party favorite.
  Living in Alaska, are you in favor of more oil drilling or not ? I live in New York and I personally think you folks living in Alaska should be the ones to decide if we drill more or not, since its in your back yard and oh what a beautiful big back yard !! I still remember what the Exxon Valdez oil spill did to you guys. I hope you recovered and God Bless you folks up north too.Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season:
The Republicans used to be a reasonable party, but with the advent of the Tea Party, it's lost its collective minds. I vote by absentee ballot and I do hope I voted for the right person. Frankly, neither party has the right candidate. To presrve my right to vote, I decided on the lesser of evils. Sad sad sad. I live on an island in Alaska and I don't have tv, but you can be sure, I will be glued to NPR /PBS radio as the votes are counted and I want to hear the commentary.   I do wish I could see the whole thing however. God ; Please Bless us ALL. We sure need it. Kathryn
Posted by Kath1948

Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at November 3, 2012 1:55 PM EDT
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First: November 27, 2011
Last: May 18, 2013
In Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season:
  Kathryn, you're not missing much without channels like Fox, who are so biased against anything the Democrats do or say. Fox TV is a Tea Party favorite.   Living in Alaska, are you in favor of more oil drilling or not ? I live in New York and I personally think you folks living in Alaska should be the ones to decide if we drill more or not, since its in your back yard and oh what a beautiful big back yard !! I still remember what the Exxon Valdez oil spill did to you guys. I hope you recovered and God Bless you folks up north too.Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season :
Posted by mandm84


They do get those dividends from the Alaska Permanant Fund -
Then there are the jobs, the school revenues, etc.
Seems their decision in the matter could be a little weighted to the money side -

Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at November 3, 2012 2:28 PM EDT
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Last: May 15, 2013
 I was thinking on the environmental impact side, since they have to live with it. It's not always about money. Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season:
In Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season : They do get those dividends from the Alaska Permanant Fund - Then there are the jobs, the school revenues, etc. Seems their decision in the matter could be a little weighted to the money side -
Posted by GailL1

Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at November 3, 2012 2:35 PM EDT
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Last: May 18, 2013
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 I was thinking on the environmental impact side, since they have to live with it. It's not always about money. Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season :
Posted by mandm84


Sometimes an area relies on an industry so much for its existence that without it, the community withers and dies.
That seems to weigh heavily in some regards and not in others.

Re: Election 2012 Debate Season

posted at November 3, 2012 3:16 PM EDT
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Last: May 15, 2013
 Mother nature can only take so much and we must respect her. What is more important ?  When I was a child, 50 years ago, I remember my science teacher talking about pollution and  alternative energy and here we are still reliant on  oil, mostly foreign.
  It's amazing how the billions of dollars big oil has spent in Wash. D.C. to influence our politicians has minimized Mother Nature's call. I'm proud of  President Obama and  those few in government, who respect Mother Nature and want to explore alternative energy. I realize the initial cost for change , but what will the eventual cost be to Mother Nature, if we dont ?Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season:
In Response to Re: Election 2012 Debate Season : Sometimes an area relies on an industry so much for its existence that without it, the community withers and dies. That seems to weigh heavily in some regards and not in others.
Posted by GailL1

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