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Re: Assult on America

posted at July 29, 2012 2:22 AM EDT
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That is incredible as tight as money is.  Just goes by the old maxum the military says. "There is no real peace a country is always preparing for war."  Even with a civilian government.


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In a hard time, they still spend money on weapons. House Approves Massive $606 Billion Military Spending Bill   326-90 Vote Avoids Making Any Meaningful Cuts to Spending     by Jason Ditz, July 19, 2012   Print This | Share This     The realities of budget problems and huge Pentagon budgets appear to be lost on the House of Representatives. In a 326-90 vote, the House passed another massive military spending bill, approving another $606 billion in spending.   Budget cuts weren’t the order of the day. Indeed, some weapons programs that the Pentagon had hoped to get rid of were re-funded by the bill, and cuts in direct war spending were replaced with a massive increase to a “contingency operations” budget, to be set aside for other wars that the president might start between now and the end of Fiscal 2013.   The only spending not approved were things not proposed in the first place, bans on military aid to Iran and Syria, and barring funds from being used in relation to certain Russian companies. Perhaps the oddest move was that exactly two months after the House itself had ended the military’s NASCAR sponsorships, they decided to put them back in. It was one of the few close votes of the day, with 216 voting against keeping the ban in place and 202 wanting it to stay.   All in all the bill weighed in at several billion dollars more than the Pentagon had sought in the first place, and even further than that above the “spending cap” they were supposed to adhere to. The bill is likely to face another major battle in the Senate, though there seems to be little appetite in either house of Congress for meaningful cuts.   http://news.antiwar.c om/2012/07/19/house-approves-massive-606-billion-military-spending-bill/  
Posted by katsung47

Re: Assult on America

posted at August 12, 2012 8:17 PM EDT
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Last: May 15, 2013

Hound

 

The war on terror was invented by the Feds. The purpose is to demand more money and power from people. So when the intelligence and Pentagon are there, the terror will be there too. If there is none, they create one.

 

Human have hound in their house to protect their family against the wolf. As the hound getting more power, they don't want to be guards any more. They want to be master. So the hound trained some wolf they captured. Let these agent wolf to attack and kill human. Human is frightened. They give hound whatever they demanded -money, power ..... Now hound become master. When they need something, they let the agent wolf have an attack on human, then said, this is a long war, to protect your lives, I need warrantless surveillance, more budget fund, torture prison.... . The hound repeated its demand, "This enemy has struck us, and they will strike again, and we'll give our folks the tools necessary to protect the country," if you don't then the hound "can not protect ourselves".

 

That's why we saw after 10 years, occasionally a wolf or two were captured. But hundreds of thousands of innocent people died. There is an endless war to control people. A constant blackmail for more power.

Re: Assult on America

posted at August 15, 2012 9:03 AM EDT
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It;s was Pres. Bush thats taking our rights away (The patriot acts)

Re: Assult on America

posted at August 15, 2012 9:57 AM EDT
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First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 19, 2013
You are absolutely Correct.  Bush and Cheney took away our rights and no one mentions that much.  But these Republicans talk about less Govt.  but that is only for the rich.  With the Patriot Act it is more Govt. involvement in everyday life of our citizens.




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It;s was Pres. Bush thats taking our rights away (The patriot acts)
Posted by dano1259

Re: Assult on America

posted at August 15, 2012 10:40 AM EDT
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if you have more than 2 hours to watch FREEDOM TO FASCISM about (yes...) our country I heard (didn't watch it yet!) it is a good moive (documentary trying to answer why it turned quite bad here)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73iMgkvU3UA&feature=g-all-lik

Re: Assult on America

posted at August 26, 2012 7:12 PM EDT
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It;s was Pres. Bush thats taking our rights away (The patriot acts)
Posted by dano1259


Again, don't be blinded up by the "democracy" mask. The Patriot Act was passed by both parties law makers. The Iraq war was approved by both parties. And the NDAA was signed by Barack Obama in 2011 under the  regime of Democratic party.


Obama signs defense bill despite 'reservations'

By JULIE PACE | AP – Sat, Dec 31, 2011

HONOLULU (AP) — President Barack Obama signed a wide-ranging defense bill into law Saturday despite having "serious reservations" about provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation and prosecution of suspected terrorists.

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A key component of this reconciled bill mandates a frightening grant of immense and unconstitutional power to the executive branch. Under the provisions of Section 1021, the President is afforded the absolute power to arrest and detain citizens of the United States without their being informed of any criminal charges, without a trial on the merits of those charges, and without a scintilla of the due process safeguards protected by the Constitution of the United States.

 

Further, in order to execute the provisions of Section 1021 described in the previous paragraph, subsequent clauses (Section 1022, for example) unlawfully give the President the absolute and unquestionable authority to deploy the armed forces of the United States to apprehend and to indefinitely detain those suspected of threatening the security of the “homeland.” In the language of this legislation, these people are called “covered persons.”

http://forums.utsandiego.com//showthread.php?t=116755

Re: Assult on America

posted at August 28, 2012 1:33 PM EDT
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First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
    President Bush and Cheney misled our Congress and United Nations  into the Iraq War. Dont even try to pass the buck on this one. President  Bush and Cheney used all their power and mite to lead us into their Weapons of Mass Deception. Our Congress was vulnerable after 9/11 and Bush/Cheney bamboozled most of us during a very emotional and patriotic time. President Bush had to complete his father's unfinished business with Hussein. The buck stops with  The Commander In Chief, my friend.Response to Re: Assult on America:
In Response to Re: Assult on America : Again, don't be blinded up by the "democracy" mask. The Patriot Act was passed by both parties law makers. The Iraq war was approved by both parties. And the NDAA was signed by Barack Obama in 2011 under the  regime of Democratic party. Obama signs defense bill despite 'reservations' By JULIE PACE | AP – Sat, Dec 31, 2011 HONOLULU (AP) — President Barack Obama signed a wide-ranging defense bill into law Saturday despite having "serious reservations" about provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation and prosecution of suspected terrorists. ---------------- -------------------- A key component of this reconciled bill mandates a frightening grant of immense and unconstitutional power to the executive branch. Under the provisions of Section 1021, the President is afforded the absolute power to arrest and detain citizens of the United States without their being informed of any criminal charges, without a trial on the merits of those charges, and without a scintilla of the due process safeguards protected by the Constitution of the United States.   Further, in order to execute the provisions of Section 1021 described in the previous paragraph, subsequent clauses (Section 1022, for example) unlawfully give the President the absolute and unquestionable authority to deploy the armed forces of the United States to apprehend and to indefinitely detain those suspected of threatening the security of the “homeland.” In the language of this legislation, these people are called “covered persons.” http://forums.utsandiego.com//showthread.php?t=116755
Posted by katsung47

Re: Assult on America

posted at August 28, 2012 2:50 PM EDT
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First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
people: do not label yourself as Democrat or Republican--it leads  NOWHERE
first you are all Americans and human beings (I think).

And your rights are taken away by both parties! you are being robbed by both parties- one robs you for warfare and the other for welfare--so you believe there is huge difference. There isn't! they rob YOU

and now i see they even stop pretending our voice counts (/I suspected it when people protested against Iraq war and it happened anyway; now RNC openly ignores their own rules to avoid situation in which delegates might vote for Ron Paul -and not for Romnney)

Romney is a criminal, i hope he would never be our president --but it seems that some people do not mind that, caught in the "anyone but" trap.

Educate yourself. Americans deserve better than   "lesser of two evils"
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Re: Assult on America

posted at September 9, 2012 2:27 PM EDT
Posts: 76
First: July 5, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013

This country is a covert totalitarian. The ruling clasee select the politicians through rigged election (because they control the intelligence - the Feds) and justify the result by fake polls (because they control the media.

Re: Assult on America

posted at September 11, 2012 4:04 PM EDT
Posts: 531
First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 19, 2013
Actually elections are bought but there are still dumb politicians like Romney that can ruin  that strategy.


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[QUOTE]This country is a covert totalitarian. The ruling clasee select the politicians through rigged election (because they control the intelligence - the Feds) and justify the result by fake polls (because they control the media.
Posted by katsung47[/QUOTE
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