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Re: Assult on America

posted at July 9, 2012 7:42 PM EDT
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 This coming from you sir, a Republican, who wants to criticize President Obama for not ending the Iraq War and cutting the deficit  soon enough.  President Bush started the Iraq War and became the only President to wage War and lower taxes for Corporations and the wealthy at the same time, which then contributed greatly to our huge deficit and now you want to blame President Obama. Even though President Obama was against the Iraq War in the first place as an Illinois representative. 
  Wow, what a tough crowd. I hope President Obama learns how to walk on water soon, but then again even that wont be enough , when hatred distorts a man's vision.n Response to Re: Assult on America:
In Response to Re: Assult on America : Iraq war in his first year? Closing Quantamo Bay (sp?)? Cutting debt in half in his first term? Ending Iraq war in his first year? Obama sttands tall for Democracy for all? He signed NDAA- Indefinite detention of AMERICAN CITIZENS -THIS IS AGAINST aMERICAN CONSTITUTION which he swore to defend when taking office. With drones, that he loves, he authorized many killings (6 were American citizens) without trial!
Posted by Astra2012

Re: Assult on America

posted at July 10, 2012 3:26 PM EDT
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First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
In Response to Re: Assult on America:
 This coming from you sir, a Republican, who wants to criticize President Obama for not ending the Iraq War and cutting the deficit  soon enough.  President Bush started the Iraq War and became the only President to wage War and lower taxes for Corporations and the wealthy at the same time, which then contributed greatly to our huge deficit and now you want to blame President Obama. Even though President Obama was against the Iraq War in the first place as an Illinois representative.    Wow, what a tough crowd. I hope President Obama learns how to walk on water soon, but then again even that wont be enough , when hatred distorts a man's vision.n Response to Re: Assult on America :
Posted by mandm84


my goal wasn't to criticizce Obama but to answer a question about his unkept promises.

(and  i 'm a woman... )

Re: Assult on America

posted at July 10, 2012 6:48 PM EDT
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  With all due respect Ma'am, As a Republican , are you seriously criticizing and blaming President Obama for the deaths of 6 americans from drones. Do I really need to remind you of how many of our troops died in Iraq with No Weapons of Mass Destruction and NO connection between 9/11 and Iraq. Not to mention over 100,000 civilians killed. President Obama cant step on a crack in the sidewalk without getting blame.
  As a Republican and to be fair, I think you need to reevaluate those 8 years of  Government policy and decisions under the Bush Administration, before blaming President Obama for not cleaning things up quickly enough for you. You also have to remember that  the Republican Right Wing in Congress has fought President Obama every step of the way with every stall and delay tactic in the book to stop any of his proposals from developing. Response to Re: Assult on America:
In Response to Re: Assult on America : my goal wasn't to criticizce Obama but to answer a question about his unkept promises. (and  i 'm a woman... )
Posted by Astra2012

Re: Assult on America

posted at July 13, 2012 2:23 PM EDT
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Yes, i do agree that Republican establishment is very much to blame--i think that neo-cons, right wing, has hijacked the government.
but President Obama seems to go along with it

we know nothing about
places he authorized to bomb like Yemen. 


don't believe that establishment, whether Dem. or Rep. cares about us!

Re: Assult on America

posted at July 14, 2012 6:25 PM EDT
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First: May 28, 2012
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 I'm sorry, but I do believe President Obama's and the Democrat's record is much better caring about our beloved seniors, disabled and working lower / middle class. Today's Republican leadership answer first and only to big corporations and the wealthiest , whose greed is killing this Nation. Look at the past 11 years and where have the republican's priorities been ? Iraq War, tax breaks for the wealthiest & corporations, neglecting our infrastructure ( bridges, roads, etc.), neglecting environmental concerns and neglecting our beloved seniors and disabled. Not a very good track record for 99 % of us.
 Today's Republican leadership has already told us what they will do in the future. If Romney wins and If the Republicans continue  to control the House of Representatives, they will enact the recent Ryan Republican Budget for 2013 that only gets worse with even MORE tax breaks for big oil, corporations and wealthiest Americans, while cutting 200 billion from Medicare for our seniors and then they will attack Social Security. The Republicans say we have enough money in our budget to continue giving more all time high tax breaks to the wealthiest corporations and people in the world, but we have to cut senior's and disabled's healthcare benefits and cant afford Social Security. President Ronald Reagan would be ashamed of today's Republicans.
 Where is the fairness and compassion ? Enough is enough. I know I will be voting Democrat in November.Response to Re: Assult on America:
Yes, i do agree that Republican establishment is very much to blame--i think that neo-cons, right wing, has hijacked the government. but President Obama seems to go along with it we know nothing about places he authorized to bomb like Yemen.  don't believe that establishment, whether Dem. or Rep. cares about us!
Posted by Astra2012

Re: Assult on America

posted at July 15, 2012 4:59 PM EDT
Posts: 76
First: July 5, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013

When you argue about Democrats and Republicans, you fell into the trap they set up for you. Both party work for one master. Here is what I wrote three years ago.

582. Robert Gates' career prolonged for Iran war (1/15/09)

Petro dollar benefits US economy a lot. When Iran abandons dollar as oil trading currency, it shakes dollar foundation significantly. To stabilize the dollar position, the war on Iran is inevitable. The latest attempt to war on Iran was failed in August 2008. Next month, in September, a financial crisis is created to save the dollar. The financial crisis push people to change the investment into cash - the dollar, and drives the dollar into a balloon - US bond. The Inside Group will keep that balloon for months, no longer than a year. They will keep that balloon until the Iran war break out.

The reason I said so is out of a decision made by the President elect - Obama. He decides to let Bush's Defense Secretary - Robert Gates to stay in chair for one more year. It means the Inside group still wants to finish Iran war within a year. They maintain that dollar balloon from popping  until the war comes.

Robert Gates is a well selected neo-con follower. He is no other than Rumsfeld, Bush and Ashcroft. He has been chosen to command the soured Iran war of 2008 August. No one is more familiar with that war project then him. No one will work better than him with that military official group inside Pentagon which developed the Iran war project. It was an urgent war. If Bush can't stay in President seat, Gates will be the right person to stay for the war.

Barak Obama won the president election by his slogan "change". One important reason he won the campaign is because he said he opposes Iraq war. But when it touches the interest of the Inside Group, he has to obey. In an area where needs an utter "change", he reacts with "un change". He says he opposes Iraq war, because the bird is held in hand already. It doesn't cost anything but a lip service. But when his master gave an order, he will hug another war.

Politicians are picked up from the followers of the Inside Group. High ranking politicians have been  all screened tier upon tier. They are all the same even though they pretend to be different by sticking a different sign of donkey or elephant. When people are tired of a white wolf, they gave you a black one. But on the core it's the same. Wolf won't change its habit to eat lamb.

There is a Chinese fable: Three for breakfast and four for super. It says a monkey keeper gave his monkey four nuts in breakfast and three for supper. Monkey felt hungry and protested. The keeper thought for a while than pretended compromise. He said, "OK, you win, I will give you three nuts in morning and four in the evening." Monkey thought it won because the keeper changed three into four for supper. So when Obama gives you four nuts for supper but three in the morning, do you think there is a change?

Re: Assult on America

posted at July 16, 2012 1:50 PM EDT
Posts: 938
First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
In Response to Re: Assult on America:
When you argue about Democrats and Republicans, you fell into the trap they set up for you. Both party work for one master. Here is what I wrote three years ago. 582. Robert Gates' career prolonged for Iran war (1/15/09) Petro dollar benefits US economy a lot. When Iran abandons dollar as oil trading currency, it shakes dollar foundation significantly. To stabilize the dollar position, the war on Iran is inevitable. The latest attempt to war on Iran was failed in August 2008. Next month, in September, a financial crisis is created to save the dollar. The financial crisis push people to change the investment into cash - the dollar, and drives the dollar into a balloon - US bond. The Inside Group will keep that balloon for months, no longer than a year. They will keep that balloon until the Iran war break out. The reason I said so is out of a decision made by the President elect - Obama. He decides to let Bush's Defense Secretary - Robert Gates to stay in chair for one more year. It means the Inside group still wants to finish Iran war within a year. They maintain that dollar balloon from popping  until the war comes. Robert Gates is a well selected neo-con follower. He is no other than Rumsfeld, Bush and Ashcroft. He has been chosen to command the soured Iran war of 2008 August. No one is more familiar with that war project then him. No one will work better than him with that military official group inside Pentagon which developed the Iran war project. It was an urgent war. If Bush can't stay in President seat, Gates will be the right person to stay for the war. Barak Obama won the president election by his slogan "change". One important reason he won the campaign is because he said he opposes Iraq war. But when it touches the interest of the Inside Group, he has to obey. In an area where needs an utter "change", he reacts with "un change". He says he opposes Iraq war, because the bird is held in hand already. It doesn't cost anything but a lip service. But when his master gave an order, he will hug another war. Politicians are picked up from the followers of the Inside Group. High ranking politicians have been  all screened tier upon tier. They are all the same even though they pretend to be different by sticking a different sign of donkey or elephant. When people are tired of a white wolf, they gave you a black one. But on the core it's the same. Wolf won't change its habit to eat lamb. There is a Chinese fable: Three for breakfast and four for super. It says a monkey keeper gave his monkey four nuts in breakfast and three for supper. Monkey felt hungry and protested. The keeper thought for a while than pretended compromise. He said, "OK, you win, I will give you three nuts in morning and four in the evening." Monkey thought it won because the keeper changed three into four for supper. So when Obama gives you four nuts for supper but three in the morning, do you think there is a change?
Posted by katsung47

Re: Assult on America

posted at July 16, 2012 1:55 PM EDT
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First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
katsung is VERY right!

Re: Assult on America

posted at July 18, 2012 2:50 PM EDT
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First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
i hope you like George Carlin. He is talking about the reality in the usa...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia_eT7six6k&feature=related

Re: Assult on America

posted at July 28, 2012 10:02 PM EDT
Posts: 76
First: July 5, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013

In a hard time, they still spend money on weapons.

House Approves Massive $606 Billion Military Spending Bill

 

326-90 Vote Avoids Making Any Meaningful Cuts to Spending

 

 by Jason Ditz, July 19, 2012

 

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The realities of budget problems and huge Pentagon budgets appear to be lost on the House of Representatives. In a 326-90 vote, the House passed another massive military spending bill, approving another $606 billion in spending.

 

Budget cuts weren’t the order of the day. Indeed, some weapons programs that the Pentagon had hoped to get rid of were re-funded by the bill, and cuts in direct war spending were replaced with a massive increase to a “contingency operations” budget, to be set aside for other wars that the president might start between now and the end of Fiscal 2013.

 

The only spending not approved were things not proposed in the first place, bans on military aid to Iran and Syria, and barring funds from being used in relation to certain Russian companies. Perhaps the oddest move was that exactly two months after the House itself had ended the military’s NASCAR sponsorships, they decided to put them back in. It was one of the few close votes of the day, with 216 voting against keeping the ban in place and 202 wanting it to stay.

 

All in all the bill weighed in at several billion dollars more than the Pentagon had sought in the first place, and even further than that above the “spending cap” they were supposed to adhere to. The bill is likely to face another major battle in the Senate, though there seems to be little appetite in either house of Congress for meaningful cuts.

 

http://news.antiwar.com/2012/07/19/house-approves-massive-606-billion-military-spending-bill/

 

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