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Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be'

posted at May 23, 2012 7:50 PM EDT
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( Here's Simpson who lived off the Govt

Former Sen. Alan Simpson is not happy with the California Alliance for Retired Americans.

In an April letter full of bad language, the pugnacious Wyoming Republican criticized the seniors group for a flyer that protested a deficit reduction plan from the task force he co-chaired with Clinton administration honcho Erskine Bowles.

"Your little flyer entitled 'Bowles! Simpson! Stop using the deficit as a phony excuse to gut our Social Security!' is one of the phoniest excuses for a 'flyer' I have ever seen," Simpson wrote on his official Senate stationery.

"What a wretched group of seniors you must be to use the faces of the very young people that we are trying to save, while the 'greedy geezers' like you use them as a tool and a front for your nefarious bunch of crap," Simpson continued. "You must feel some sense of shame for shoveling this bullshit."

The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, created by President Barack Obama in 2010 to craft a plan to tackle the nation's structural budget deficits, recommended trimming Social Security costs, by raising the retirement age and creating a new formula for calculating benefits, in order to save money. The Simpson-Bowles plan, as it is known, would also slightly increase Social Security payroll taxes.

The California Alliance for Retired Americans is not a fan of the plan.

Neither Simpson nor the California Alliance immediately responded to requests for comment.

The Social Security trust fund has enough money to pay full benefits until 2033, according to the most recent trustees report, at which point incoming Social Security tax revenue would be sufficient to pay 75 percent of benefits.

Simpson has previously called Social Security "a milk cow with 310 million tits!"

Simpson's letter, which was forwarded to media by the AFL-CIO.

Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be'

posted at May 23, 2012 7:52 PM EDT
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   Here's a response I read on Huffington Post that about says it for me too. 
For a guy who has sucked on the government   for a good portion of his entire adult life I think Simpson has a helluva lot of nerve castigating people who disagree with him with his plan.     It was the taxes paid by those very retired citizens he is cursing out and accusing of sucking on the Social Security teat that paid his salary while he was working in government. Those same people paid for his so-called fact-finding missions to far off places while he was in the Senate and they are still paying for his franking privileges,  the stationary he wrote his stupid letter on, the Senate gym he visits, the Senate Barber shop where he still is allowed to receive his cut-rate haircuts and the Senate dining room where he pays less for a meal then those same poor schnooks do at their local diners.     They also make it possible for Simpson to enjoy the privileges he is presently taking advantage of as a former Senator as well drawing down on the pension they provide for him. For quite some time I have thought that instead of characterizing Simpson as a rugged, cantakerous, old Westerner he should really be pegged for what he is; merely a loud mouth hick who has been getting away with bad behavior.
   

Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be'

posted at May 27, 2012 7:54 PM EDT
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Why shouldn't he laugh at poor Americans?
They would rather go hungry than not pay his pension.

they put up with everything...

Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be'

posted at May 28, 2012 9:14 PM EDT
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First: December 21, 2011
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IYou apparently don;t have children and grandchildren. Adjustments will have to be made to both SS and Medicare to keep it viaable. I for one, do not want my grandchildren working in some Chinese rice paddy to pay off our debt to them. The Simpson-Bowles plan was a great start. Unfortunately it got in the way of obama's re-election campaign. California is a total disaster. The solution by their liberal politicians is to keep raising taxes and regulate. Nobody seems to realize that businnesses are leaving the state in droves.
 Response to Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be':
( Here's Simpson who lived off the Govt Former Sen. Alan Simpson is not happy with the California Alliance for Retired Americans. In an April letter full of bad language, the pugnacious Wyoming Republican criticized the seniors group for a flyer that protested a deficit reduction plan from the task force he co-chaired with Clinton administration honcho Erskine Bowles. "Your little flyer entitled 'Bowles! Simpson! Stop using the deficit as a phony excuse to gut our Social Security!' is one of the phoniest excuses for a 'flyer' I have ever seen," Simpson wrote on his official Senate stationery. "What a wretched group of seniors you must be to use the faces of the very young people that we are trying to save, while the 'greedy geezers' like you use them as a tool and a front for your nefarious bunch of crap," Simpson continued. "You must feel some sense of shame for shoveling this bullshit." The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, created by President Barack Obama in 2010 to craft a plan to tackle the nation's structural budget deficits, recommended trimming Social Security costs, by raising the retirement age and creating a new formula for calculating benefits, in order to save money. The Simpson-Bowles plan, as it is known, would also slightly increase Social Security payroll taxes. The California Alliance for Retired Americans is not a fan of the plan . Neither Simpson nor the California Alliance immediately responded to requests for comment. The Social Security trust fund has enough money to pay full benefits until 2033, according to the most recent trustees report , at which point incoming Social Security tax revenue would be sufficient to pay 75 percent of benefits. Simpson has previously called Social Security "a milk cow with 310 million tits!" Simpson's letter, which was forwarded to media by the AFL-CIO.
Posted by JANMB

Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be'

posted at May 29, 2012 10:30 AM EDT
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Big Business hasn't only been leaving that state they have been leaving the country going to China for cheap labor and yet Republicans want to stop hispanic immigration to this country when these people are taking jobs no American wants.  Farmers are planting less because they know that their crops won't be harvested due to lack of labor.  There are jobs for the unemployed.  Why don't anyone take those?  If you are desperate you take any job available.  If Big Business don't want to pay taxes then they need to leave.  That shows they were never patriots to begin with.  They take advantage of our system and people but when they need to help when times are a little hard they run.



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IYou apparently dd on;t have children and grandchildren. Adjustments will have to be made to both SS and Medicare to keep it viaable. I for one, do not want my grandchildren working in some Chinese rice paddy to pay off our debt to them. The Simpson-Bowles plan was a great start. Unfortunately it got in the way of obama's re-election campaign. California is a total disaster. The solution by their liberal politicians is to keep raising taxes and regulate. Nobody seems to realize that businnesses are leaving the state in droves.  Response to Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be' :
Posted by Labrat64

Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be'

posted at May 29, 2012 11:11 AM EDT
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That is not true. Many businesses are coming back to the US. They find that QC  is much better in the US and logistic costs are much lower. They're leaving California because it is one of the highest taxed states Texas and Nevada are benefiting. You'll note that your state of Louisiana is also benefiting due to its low taxes and the fact that it is a right to work state. California  also has a ruineous regulatory climate.
  Response to Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be':
Big Business hasn't only been leaving that state they have been leaving the country going to China for cheap labor and yet Republicans want to stop hispanic immigration to this country when these people are taking jobs no American wants.  Farmers are planting less because they know that their crops won't be harvested due to lack of labor.  There are jobs for the unemployed.  Why don't anyone take those?  If you are desperate you take any job available.  If Big Business don't want to pay taxes then they need to leave.  That shows they were never patriots to begin with.  They take advantage of our system and people but when they need to help when times are a little hard they run. In Response to Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be' :n
Posted by creppelrm

Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be'

posted at May 29, 2012 4:41 PM EDT
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What I said is absolutely true,  Even worse a lot of the 1% are renouncing their American citizenship  not to pay taxes.  Michele Bachman was wanting to become a Swiss citizen until she caved in to public pressure.  Real Patriots are these people who will live with you and take your money, when the times are good but run when times get a little rocky.   My Mama called them good time friends.  She used to ask me "So you say they are your friends?  I would say yes they are.  She would say "Do they laugh with you?"  I would say yes they do.  She would say do they cry with you?  I would say NO.  Well maybe they are not friends. 



n Response to Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be':
That is not true. Many businesses are coming back to the US. They find that QC  is much better in the US and logistic costs are much lower. They're leaving California because it is one of the highest taxed states Texas and Nevada are benefiting. You'll note that your state of Louisiana is also benefiting due to its low taxes and the fact that it is a right to work state. California  also has a ruineous regulatory climate.   Response to Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be' :
Posted by Labrat64

Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be'

posted at May 31, 2012 5:42 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be':
IYou apparently don;t have children and grandchildren. Adjustments will have to be made to both SS and Medicare to keep it viaable. I for one, do not want my grandchildren working in some Chinese rice paddy to pay off our debt to them. The Simpson-Bowles plan was a great start. Unfortunately it got in the way of obama's re-election campaign. California is a total disaster. The solution by their liberal politicians is to keep raising taxes and regulate. Nobody seems to realize that businnesses are leaving the state in droves.  Response to Alan Simpson: 'What A Wretched Group Of Seniors You Must Be' :
Posted by Labrat64


I have children and grandchildren and this  country is bountiful enough to take care of people when they are too old to work.    Taxes are the LOWEST they have been in decades.      Taxes were far higher on top incomes in the three decades after World War II than they’ve been since.    And the distribution of income was far more equal.     Yet the American economy grew faster in those years than it’s grown since tax rates on the top were slashed in 1981.   

According to Business Insider....".the U.S. has roughly 6 million businesses that employ people, and 20 million businesses without employees or solo operators or those who just incorporate for tax writeoffs. i.e professionals in partnerships and those who organize themselves as a business for tax purposes but earn little if any income from the enterprise. Small businesses are defined as having fewer than 500 workers each"

Last year, Citizens for Tax Justice found that 30 major corporations had made billions of dollars in profits while paying no federal income tax between 2008 and 2010. 

Seems you are blaming the WRONG ONES for our messes today.   Republicans had the chance to FIX EVERYTHING when they had full control for 8 years.....and now you want them back in power again ?    Obama never had 60 votes and it's a MIRACLE he got anything done at all  with the republican obstructionists and fillibusters and NO to everything.   .  

SS is not in trouble .....  we should have  a ONE PAYER like other countries have but republicans don't want that EITHER.    Look at this LIST and where the USA stands  ...thank you GOP .....

USA 2014 -----
Norway 1912 Single Payer
New Zealand 1938 Two Tier
Japan 1938 Single Payer
Germany 1941 Insurance Mandate
Belgium 1945 Insurance Mandate
United Kingdom 1948 Single Payer
Kuwait 1950 Single Payer
Sweden 1955 Single Payer
Bahrain 1957 Single Payer
Brunei 1958 Single Payer
Canada 1966 Single Payer
Netherlands 1966 Two-Tier
Austria 1967 Insurance Mandate
United Arab Emirates 1971 Single Payer
Finland 1972 Single Payer
Slovenia 1972 Single Payer
Denmark 1973 Two-Tier
Luxembourg 1973 Insurance Mandate
France 1974 Two-Tier
Australia 1975 Two Tier
Ireland 1977 Two-Tier
Italy 1978 Single Payer
Portugal 1979 Single Payer
Cyprus 1980 Single Payer
Greece 1983 Insurance Mandate
Spain 1986 Single Payer
South Korea 1988 Insurance Mandate
Iceland 1990 Single Payer
Hong Kong 1993 Two-Tier
Singapore 1993 Two-Tier
Switzerland 1994 Insurance Mandate
Israel 1995 Two-Tier
United States
2014  



  
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