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42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
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i h XP s v It's my hunch that the 42% of Catholics whites and hispanics that are voting for Romney is for two reasons; the number one reason is the belief in the promise of the econo
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42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 13, 2012 10:25 PM EDT
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i h XP s v It's my hunch that the 42% of Catholics whites and hispanics that are voting for Romney is for two reasons; the number one reason is the belief in the promise of the economic and prosperity message, it's the hook which the majority of the nation has bought into; two; is because these are liberal Catholics who reject the Magisterium's teaching that abortion and artificial birth control are intrinsic evils. Hence they would not support Santorum or Gingrich who abide by the culture of life agenda not because they figured it out, but because by theological, philosophical and moral evidence taught by Christ in Sacred Scriptures. From the objective point of view of Catholic teaching, these Catholics be they clergy, politicians or lay persons are potentially in the state of mortal sin, since infanticide is against the 5th. Commandment; "you shall not kill,' and commit an even worse offense of Sacrilege by receiving the Body and Blood of Christ in the Communion segment of the Mass. These Catholics who do not know their faith well enough need to get informed or might as well become LDS. Romney's only knowledge of Pro-life issues did not come from his church teachings because their theology is not only a distortion of authentic Christian doctrines, they are heresies and offensive to God, i.e., that Jesus is the biological brother to Satan, and that they can become a god equal to God Himself. Sound familiar? Obviously this was the first deception that man bought into in Gen. 3:5. From a logical point of view, we would be deceived again to believe that a predominantly Christian nation would think that our God would be prospering our nation while we kill children in the womb of a mother. We treat God like he doesn't know what's going on based on our intellectual arrogance. The Book of Hosea reads: 'my people die for lack of knowledge." Until we support the candidates that support the overturn of Roe vs Wade and other culture of death issues, WE WILL NEVER IN OUR LIFETIME experience economic prosperity and neither will future generations after all we're killing them. We have committed legal suicide. Can we honestly say that we have seen any appreciable and permanent change for the better since Roe vs Wade? Prosperity hinges solely on the reversal of the culture of death agenda.Santorum or Gingrich are this countries only hope of bringing this country back to health and prosperity by beating another proponent of child killing, Obama. When we do it God's way ONLY THEN will things turn around for this country. He's the real sign with the fool proof plan. If anyone thinks they know a better way, then let us know this detailed and fool proof plan so that we may follow. |
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Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 14, 2012 10:19 AM EDT
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in the separate thread I discuss PROPAGANDA and one of its ways "Ignoring" the above post is a perfect example dcm929 writes only about 3 candidates, completely ignoring Ron Paul as if he wasn't running. Ron Paul is the only anti-establishment candidate and in a society prone to propaganda it is like running against the strong wind. |
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Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 14, 2012 11:40 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!: in the separate thread I discuss PROPAGANDA and one of its ways "Ignoring" the above post is a perfect example dcm929 writes only about 3 candidates, completely ignoring Ron Paul as if he wasn't running. Ron Paul is the only anti-establishment candidate and in a society prone to propaganda it is like running against the strong wind. Posted by Astra2012 Astra, thanks for your comments. I agree Ron Paul has some good points to make especially about concerning ourselves with our own problems and rampant beauracracy. But lets face it we have to be connected to our allies and Israel is one of them and we have to address the moral decline in our country, killing infants is not an attribute of our society. I personally think Ron Paul does not have the overall ability to address these issues. |
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Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 14, 2012 3:50 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!: In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign! : Astra, thanks for your comments. I agree Ron Paul has some good points to make especially about concerning ourselves with our own problems and rampant beauracracy. But lets face it we have to be connected to our allies and Israel is one of them and we have to address the moral decline in our country, killing infants is not an attribute of our society. I personally think Ron Paul does not have the overall ability to address these issues. Posted by dcm929 I am not at all sure that being connected to Israel has done us any good. We send more money to Israel thatn to all other countries combined. This makes no sense, especially since Israel is engaging in war against Palestine , taking land that does not belong to Israel, and creating more enemies for us. They want to drag us into war with Iran, then we get the bill for that , too! Already enough has been spent supporting Israel. They need to be self -supporting, especially since we are knee deep in debt. Maybe they can give us some of our money back to pay interest on our loans from China? |
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Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 14, 2012 5:18 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!: In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign! : Astra, thanks for your comments. I agree Ron Paul has some good points to make especially about concerning ourselves with our own problems and rampant beauracracy. But lets face it we have to be connected to our allies and Israel is one of them and we have to address the moral decline in our country, killing infants is not an attribute of our society. I personally think Ron Paul does not have the overall ability to address these issues. Posted by dcm929 i do not agree with you- Ron Paul not only addressed these issues but also he makes perfect sense in both issues you mentioned 1.connection to allies---WHY NOT? Ron Paul is for friendly relations with all the countries! What harm does he want to do to our allies? 2. abortion - personally he is against it but he realizes that making it illegal will not only not stop it but will also endanger mother's life. like you he sees the moral decline in our country which needs to be addressed but he realizes that federal government would be hopelessly ineffective if tried to make immorality illegal (and immorality is a rather subjective term). so like death penalty, gay marrige etc lagality of abortion would be on state level. |
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Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 14, 2012 9:54 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!: In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign! : i do not agree with you- Ron Paul not only addressed these issues but also he makes perfect sense in both issues you mentioned 1.connection to allies---WHY NOT? Ron Paul is for friendly relations with all the countries! What harm does he want to do to our allies? 2. abortion - personally he is against it but he realizes that making it illegal will not only not stop it but will also endanger mother's life. like you he sees the moral decline in our country which needs to be addressed but he realizes that federal government would be hopelessly ineffective if tried to make immorality illegal (and immorality is a rather subjective term). so like death penalty, gay marrige etc lagality of abortion would be on state level. Posted by Astra2012 I didn't say Ron Paul was not friendly to other nations, I just simply think he doesn't have the experience and fortitude to lead this nation if we come under attack even though we are trying to remain neutral. You can't be too passive when they're pointing a gun at you. The bottom line concerning life issues is that it is all about God and His desires and His plans and in humility we should be submissive to His plans for our moral and spiritual well being. In the past we have imposed our pitiful and arrogant intelligence against His will. Have we experience any concrete and progressive prosperity in decades? No! Look at the Naional Debt. We are headed for a depression. No way are we ever going to pull this one out. You'd have to show me some serious numbers that would fix it. That's because God will not bless or protect a nation that kills those He created in the womb where we all begin. You cannot pretend to understand all the knowledge and information about the pro-life agenda if you have never investigated it thoroughly enough. Any pro-life organization can answer all your questions if you or anyone else is seeking understanding and truth on the subject. And finally, let's face it Ron Paul as much as you like him is not the pick of the party as evidenced by the electorial votes and any other vote. He does not have what it takes in courage and determination as an all around leader to defend and lead this country in all the important issues. |
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Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 14, 2012 10:00 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!: In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign! : I am not at all sure that being connected to Israel has done us any good. We send more money to Israel thatn to all other countries combined. This makes no sense, especially since Israel is engaging in war against Palestine , taking land that does not belong to Israel, and creating more enemies for us. They want to drag us into war with Iran, then we get the bill for that , too! Already enough has been spent supporting Israel. They need to be self -supporting, especially since we are knee deep in debt. Maybe they can give us some of our money back to pay interest on our loans from China? Posted by louisie Hi Louisie, As far back as human history goes, God has, by His perogative chosen the Jews as His special people that extends even un-today. Have you ever heard the Bible passage where God spoke to Abraham saying: I will bless those who bless you and I will curse those who curse you! If we want to survive in this world with God's blessing first we must stop killing our children in the womb and secondly we need to bless Israel. God will take care of all the other details just as He did with the Jews and their allies in the Bible. God bless. |
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Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 15, 2012 11:07 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign! : I didn't say Ron Paul was not friendly to other nations, I just simply think he doesn't have the experience and fortitude to lead this nation if we come under attack even though we are trying to remain neutral. You can't be too passive when they're pointing a gun at you. The bottom line concerning life issues is that it is all about God and His desires and His plans and in humility we should be submissive to His plans for our moral and spiritual well being. In the past we have imposed our pitiful and arrogant intelligence against His will. Has anything concrete and progressive prosperity in decades? No, that's because God will not bless or protect a nation that kills those He created in the womb where we all begin. You cannot pretend to understand all the knowledge and information about the pro-life agenda if you have never investigated it thoroughly enough. Any pro-life organization can answer all your questions if you or anyone else is seeking understanding and truth on the subject. And finally, let's face it Ron Paul as much as you like him is not the pick of the party as evidenced by the electorial votes and any other vote. He does not have what it takes in courage and determination as an all around leader to defend and lead this country in all the important issues. Posted by dcm929[/QUOT? Ron Paul doesn't have experience to lead us?? The only veteran? Which candidatee has more experience in your opinion? in mine- he has more eperience than anyone else! We are not TRYING TO REMAIN NEUTRAL - but I'm not goi ng to open your eyes here. That's for another discussion. but you are right that Ron Paul is definitely NOT the choice of Republican establishment (which is one of the reasons why he is mine!) Courage and determination? Of course he has them more than all others. But the most important thing, beside his intelligence, compassion and common sense is that he is genuinely caring about American people! More than all other candidates... |
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Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 15, 2012 11:17 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!: In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign! : Hi Louisie, As far back as human history goes, God has, by His perogative chosen the Jews as His special people that extends even un-today. Have you ever heard the Bible passage where God spoke to Abraham saying: I will bless those who bless you and I will curse those who curse you! If we want to survive in this world with God's blessing first we must stop killing our children in the womb and secondly we need to bless Israel. God will take care of all the other details just as He did with the Jews and their allies in the Bible. God bless. Posted by dcm929 I'm not getting involved in that discussion just want to say that a Bible was written by Jews and of course they felt special (EVERY nation does!) and wanted to be blessed by eveeryone! But what does it mean? Some Jews are against Ron Paul but some Jews are for him! Whom do you bless? |
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Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!
posted at March 15, 2012 12:09 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign!: In Response to Re: 42% of Catholics/Foxworthy vote Romney. My people die for lack of knowledge. There's your sign! : I'm not getting involved in that discussion just want to say that a Bible was written by Jews and of course they felt special (EVERY nation does!) and wanted to be blessed by eveeryone! But what does it mean? Some Jews are against Ron Paul but some Jews are for him! Whom do you bless? Posted by Astra2012 Hi Astra, If you believe in the Bible then what it says is relevent to you and me, if you don't then it means nothing. And even Jews are divided in their beliefs; there are Chistian Jews that believe Jesus was the Messiah and Fundamentalist Jews that believe the Messiah is yet to come. The Jews that don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah have the same mind set as the Pharisees that Christ often challenged. He presented to them the most profound story of the New Testament that describes the close mindedness of not only the Pharisees, but applies to all of us who prefer our own packaged idea of truth in contrast to God's objective truth as evidenced by Sacred Scripture and Oral Tradition (truths handed down before they were written down); and that is the story of The Man Born Blind. Jesus always gave the greatest punch lines in His parables in order to get the point across. He even wept over Jerusalem because His chosen people were not humble enough to be open to God's truth, but we always think we can outsmart God with our limited intellect and stay in our pathetic darkness. |
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