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40 years of PREPAID Medicare payfoll tax deductions are not entitlements.
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Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS
posted at August 29, 2012 6:22 PM EDT
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If you paid into the system you are "entitled" to receive benefits from it. I paid into the system for 45 years. I'm finally reaping the benefits. Response to 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payfoll tax deductions are not entitlements. Posted by KJVKARBEAR |
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Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS
posted at August 30, 2012 2:00 PM EDT
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In Response to 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payfoll tax deductions are not entitlements. Posted by KJVKARBEAR If the USA can spend money on giving aid to China and many otherse..... and we can spend money on wars....we can spend money on our own people in regards to something like healthcare. What I didn't know til I read the following. To satisfy the original plan's opponents, Part B was made optional. It was not to be funded from payroll taxes like Part A, but would require beneficiaries to pay a monthly premium. The beneficiary premium was intended to cover 50% of the plan's costs, with the remaining 50% coming from the general fund of the federal government. (Although later legislation changed that ratio to 25% from premiums and 75% from the general fund.)
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Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS
posted at August 30, 2012 2:24 PM EDT
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Wonder if you had taken the Medicare payroll tax deductions and instead invested them how long they would last to pay your medical bills. At the rate things are going not long. Yes we prepaid, did the government invest the money no! Also Medicare money has been used for items it never was intended to pay thanks to our law makers in the past! Now this generation and future ones will pay the price for bad fiscal discipline in Washington, both parties are to blame, the liberals for extending the benefits to items not originally meant to be paid for by it. The conservatives for cutting taxes, but guess what guys the cutting of taxes has nothing to do with how medicare is funded, the rate was never cut. UNLIKE SS rates cuts to try and stimulate spending, do you really think our governement is going to replace the lost money from the general fund. If so there is a lot of swamp land in Florida for sale. |
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Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS
posted at August 30, 2012 3:42 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS: In Response to 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS : If the USA can spend money on giving aid to China and many otherse..... and we can spend money on wars....we can spend money on our own people in regards to something like healthcare. What I didn't know til I read the following. To satisfy the original plan's opponents, Part B was made optional. It was not to be funded from payroll taxes like Part A, but would require beneficiaries to pay a monthly premium. The beneficiary premium was intended to cover 50% of the plan's costs, with the remaining 50% coming from the general fund of the federal government. (Although later legislation changed that ratio to 25% from premiums and 75% from the general fund.) http://www.elderweb.com/article/why-do-we-have-medicare-part-and-part-b Posted by JANMB People that are going onto the "SUBSIDIZED" health insurance exchanges haven't paid into anything - Are they still "entitled". I think Medicare beneficiaries are getting the very short end of the healthcare ( $ ) stick. |
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Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS
posted at August 30, 2012 10:22 PM EDT
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I am just getting ready to start Medicare. I think it is outrageous that you are charged a penalty for NOT enrolling in part B immediately. The Federal Government was not meant to be a provider of retirement funds, medical care and other welfare programs. It was intended to regulate intestate commerce and protect the nation. BIG BROTHER IS HERE!!!! |
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Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS
posted at September 2, 2012 9:30 AM EDT
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Medicare and SS are entitlements, Medicaid, SSI, and subsidized health care are not. Response to Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS: In Response to Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS : People that are going onto the "SUBSIDIZED" health insurance exchanges haven't paid into anything - Are they still "entitled". I think Medicare beneficiaries are getting the very short end of the healthcare ( $ ) stick. Posted by GailL1 |
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Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS
posted at September 2, 2012 11:08 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS: Medicare and SS are entitlements, Medicaid, SSI, and subsidized health care are not. Response to Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS : Posted by Labrat64 Sorry to have to correct you - An "Entitlement" (from Wikipedia): " An entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits based on established rights or by legislation. A "right" is itself an entitlement associated with a moral or social principle, such that an "entitlement" is a provision made in accordance with legal framework of a society. Typically, entitlements are laws based on concepts of principle ("rights") which are themselves based in concepts of social equality or enfranchisement." Glossary of Political Economy Terms: ENTITLEMENT Program: "The kind of government program that provides individuals with personal financial benefits (or sometimes special government-provided goods or services) to which an indefinite (but usually rather large) number of potential beneficiaries have a legal right (enforceable in court, if necessary) whenever they meet eligibility conditions that are specified by the standing law that authorizes the program. The beneficiaries of entitlement programs are normally individual citizens or residents, but sometimes organizations such as business corporations, local governments, or even political parties may have similar special "entitlements" under certain programs. The most important examples of entitlement programs at the federal level in the United States would include Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, most Veterans' Administration programs, federal employee and military retirement plans, unemployment compensation, food stamps, and agricultural price support programs. " From our government: Government Benefits, Grants and Financial Aid. |
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Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS
posted at September 3, 2012 9:37 AM EDT
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Mea culpa, I stand corrected. Response to Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS: In Response to Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS : Sorry to have to correct you - An "Entitlement" (from Wikipedia): " An entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits based on established rights or by legislation . A "right" is itself an entitlement associated with a moral or social principle , such that an "entitlement" is a provision made in accordance with legal framework of a society. Typically, entitlements are laws based on concepts of principle ("rights") which are themselves based in concepts of social equality or enfranchisement ." Glossary of Political Economy Terms: ENTITLEMENT Program: " The kind of government program that provides individuals with personal financial benefits (or sometimes special government-provided goods or services) to which an indefinite (but usually rather large) number of potential beneficiaries have a legal right (enforceable in court, if necessary) whenever they meet eligibility conditions that are specified by the standing law that authorizes the program. The beneficiaries of entitlement programs are normally individual citizens or residents, but sometimes organizations such as business corporations, local governments, or even political parties may have similar special "entitlements" under certain programs. The most important examples of entitlement programs at the federal level in the United States would include Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, most Veterans' Administration programs, federal employee and military retirement plans, unemployment compensation, food stamps, and agricultural price support programs. " From our government: Government Benefits, Grants and Financial Aid. Posted by GailL1 |
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Re: 40 years of PREPAID Medicare payroll tax deductions are not ENTITLEMENTS
posted at October 6, 2012 12:33 PM EDT
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Personally the word "entitlement" turns me off. It causes imagery of things such as "I am entitled to welfare." Social Security benefits and Medicare benefits are "earned" income based on what a person has paid into each program over their lifetime. To me this is an "ownership" program rather than an "entitlement" program. Each person who has paid into these programs has a share in the "ownership." |
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