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posted at August 15, 2012 6:45 PM EDT
Posts: 471
First: December 21, 2011
Last: May 20, 2013
I just saw a you-tube video of an interview with Dinesh D'souza the producer of 2016. I haven't seen the movie yet, but basically it explains that obama's motivation is anticollonialism. He sent Winston Churchill's bust back to the UK, because as a Kenyan he views Churchill as an opressive colonialist. Also interesting his his choice of who to support and who to try to remove in the "Arab Spring". Both Egypt and Libya were somewhat Western friendly (Libya over the past few years). He brought about the toppling of their regimes. Iran and Syria are both hostile to the US, in fact there was a larger uprising in Iran than Egypt. Yet he has done very little to assist the rebels. Basically, he wants to bring us down, so that we are no longer a superpower. He realizes that he stands little chance of telling voters of his intentions, so he's waiting for a second term when he can do his work.

Re: 2016

posted at August 15, 2012 7:49 PM EDT
Posts: 938
First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
i never heard of 2016 only 2012 (seems the wordl is supposed to end this year...)

Obama will not attack Iran or Syria not bc he has some hidden agenda but bc Russia threatened to stand by them and retaliate (they even sent some warships.. So basically that would start WW3.
besides he can't start another war--for financial reasons.
so it only looks like he is saving these 2 countries.

Re: 2016

posted at August 16, 2012 7:02 AM EDT
Posts: 471
First: December 21, 2011
Last: May 20, 2013
Hi Astra. The movie explains obama's motivation. I haven't seen it yet-I intend to, though. His goal is to  change us from a superpower to a third world nation. He's doing this by making our  currency worthless. This causes everything we buy to go up in price (runaway inflation). He's also making us more dependent on oil from hostile sources as opposed to friendly sources (Venezuela vs. Canada). He's also destroying the relationships we have with allies and befriending our enemies.   Response to Re: 2016:
i never heard of 2016 only 2012 (seems the wordl is supposed to end this year...) Obama will not attack Iran or Syria not bc he has some hidden agenda but bc Russia threatened to stand by them and retaliate (they even sent some warships.. So basically that would start WW3. besides he can't start another war--for financial reasons. so it only looks like he is saving these 2 countries.
Posted by Astra2012

Re: 2016

posted at August 16, 2012 3:17 PM EDT
Posts: 938
First: December 1, 2011
Last: May 7, 2013
it only looks like it's his goal.our currency has been decreasing in value bc Federal Reserve has been printing money out of thin air since 1971---it has increased bc of bail-outs (Bush and Obama), social programs (Obama) wars (Bush) random bombing (Bush and Obama). this is a HIDDEN TAX paid by Americans!

i'm watching youtube all the time and some videos really scare me- fortunately my husband is not prone to panic (unlike me...) and calms me down.

Obama tries to live up to Nobel Peace prize and tries to befriend enemies maybe. And he doesn't forget our allies: he just gave Israel 70 bln more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70XFFEByPVA&feature=related

Re: 2016

posted at August 16, 2012 10:20 PM EDT
Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
  More Obama hatred and lies. The Director is Dinesh D'Souza, who is a Right Wing  Ultra-Conservative Republican, who hates President Obama. The producer is Gerald Molen, who is a Mormon and personal friend of Romney. Molen is also an outspoken Right Wing Ultra- Conservative Republican, whose views are so drastic that he wasn't even allowed to speak at his high school in Montana. I wonder what their agenda might be ?  Most intelligent and informed people will consider this source and their hateful agenda.
   President Obama during his entire lifetime, spent a matter of a few weeks with his father. His biggest male influence was his white grandfather, who happened to raise him. The same grandfather that was a WWII hero with General Patton. So you go ahead and believe those viscous lies and keep filling your heart with hatred, but the Man upstairs is watching.
  Its nice that the  Right Wing Republican Super Pacs  have so much money that they can make major fictional  motion pictures to keep spreading their hate and lies against The President Of The United States.
   This Right Wing Republican madness will stoop as low as it has to, to try and destroy President Obama. What has this Nation come to ?  So much HATE.Response to Re: 2016:
Hi Astra. The movie explains obama's motivation. I haven't seen it yet-I intend to, though. His goal is to  change us from a superpower to a third world nation. He's doing this by making our  currency worthless. This causes everything we buy to go up in price (runaway inflation). He's also making us more dependent on oil from hostile sources as opposed to friendly sources (Venezuela vs. Canada). He's also destroying the relationships we have with allies and befriending our enemies.   Response to Re: 2016 :
Posted by Labrat64

Re: 2016

posted at August 17, 2012 8:22 AM EDT
Posts: 12532
First: February 29, 2008
Last: May 17, 2013
In Response to Re: 2016:
Hi Astra. The movie explains obama's motivation. I haven't seen it yet-I intend to, though. His goal is to  change us from a superpower to a third world nation. He's doing this by making our  currency worthless. This causes everything we buy to go up in price (runaway inflation). He's also making us more dependent on oil from hostile sources as opposed to friendly sources (Venezuela vs. Canada). He's also destroying the relationships we have with allies and befriending our enemies.   Response to Re: 2016 :
Posted by Labrat64


People to get rich .... will write and invent the darnest things to make money cause they count on the most gullible and the ones they know hate Obama so much they  are looking for something to put their faith in even if it's baseless accusations.        IF ONLY Obama would cheat on his wife,  or have a gay-interlude,   or  hold hands with an arab in the Rose Garden like GWBush did. .....sigh .....    
For all the hate out there towards our PRESIDENT OBAMA   ...they  have made him the KING OF THE USA . where our President Obama  alone  controls  the currency... Europe,   Wall Street ,  the FEDS,   OPEC  ....    He must be the Messiah after all..........
    

Re: 2016

posted at August 17, 2012 8:28 AM EDT
Posts: 471
First: December 21, 2011
Last: May 20, 2013
I guess only left wing sources are acceptable to you. I intend to see the movie. based upon the reviews a lot of what he's done thus far makes sense. Basically he's been hostile to our allies, while befriending our enemies. Our currency is pretty much close to being worthless because he's wasting it on worthless projects and making more people dependent on the government. Thanks for showing your personal anti-Mormon bigotry-you who accuse other of being haters!!! BTW, you seem to ignore the years "Barry Sotero" spent in Indonesia attending madrasas and the years he spent under the tutalage of master bomber Bill ayers. But then again, you socialists always like to make things fit your version of reality.
 Response to Re: 2016:
  More Obama hatred and lies. The Director is Dinesh D'Souza, who is a Right Wing  Ultra-Conservative Republican, who hates President Obama. The producer is Gerald Molen, who is a Mormon and personal friend of Romney. Molen is also an outspoken Right Wing Ultra- Conservative Republican, whose views are so drastic that he wasn't even allowed to speak at his high school in Montana. I wonder what their agenda might be ?  Most intelligent and informed people will consider this source and their hateful agenda.    President Obama during his entire lifetime, spent a matter of a few weeks with his father. His biggest male influence was his white grandfather, who happened to raise him. The same grandfather that was a WWII hero with General Patton. So you go ahead and believe those viscous lies and keep filling your heart with hatred, but the Man upstairs is watching.   Its nice that the  Right Wing Republican Super Pacs  have so much money that they can make major fictional  motion pictures to keep spreading their hate and lies against The President Of The United States.    This Right Wing Republican madness will stoop as low as it has to, to try and destroy President Obama. What has this Nation come to ?  So much HATE.Response to Re: 2016 :
Posted by mandm84

Re: 2016

posted at August 17, 2012 8:59 AM EDT
Posts: 12532
First: February 29, 2008
Last: May 17, 2013
In Response to Re: 2016:
I guess only left wing sources are acceptable to you. I intend to see the movie. based upon the reviews a lot of what he's done thus far makes sense. Basically he's been hostile to our allies, while befriending our enemies. Our currency is pretty much close to being worthless because he's wasting it on worthless projects and making more people dependent on the government. Thanks for showing your personal anti-Mormon bigotry-you who accuse other of being haters!!! BTW, you seem to ignore the years "Barry Sotero" spent in Indonesia attending madrasas and the years he spent under the tutalage of master bomber Bill ayers. But then again, you socialists always like to make things fit your version of reality.  Response to Re: 2016 :
Posted by Labrat64


Good grief ....how could  I  even MISS the right  wing view of the world as you suggest  ....it's around 24/7  and on the internet and in the newspapers.    
I was on this planet when Bush and Rice named the Axis of Evil.... and what did that get us but  two wars, thousands dead or injured and the world hating us.   
  Obama declared "we are at war" with al-Qaida so many times even Dick Cheney may have to finally stop lying about it......even if the right-wingers and their media has not. ....         Under Obama they got Bin Ladin when BUsh said  OBL was no longer important. 
What does BIll Ayers have to do with anything  that has occurred in the past 3 years Obama has been President. and if that's all you have .....it isn't even in discussion today nor should it be.   
There is nothing wrong with ROmney being a  Mormon if that's the religion you believe in.....It's all the rest of the story about using  Bain to get richer & outsourcing jobs...and outsourcing his money hiding it from taxation in Bermuda--Swiss Banks and the Caymens which is hardly patriotic for a wanna be President of the USA .....and he was in charge of   Daman Labs  when they were fined for Medicare Fraud......flip-flops about every issue imaginable.     Republicans claim to be the party of family values. This is the exact stance of fascists as well.     Propaganda in education materials and the media. Against birth control and abortion....they have an obsession with Christianity which is why republicans are doing all of the above. 

Re: 2016

posted at August 17, 2012 12:25 PM EDT
Posts: 533
First: August 9, 2011
Last: May 22, 2013
Darn Labrat,
You are right again.  IF Bush would have anything to do with it we would have sent hundreds of thousands of troops and the logistics to feed house and equip them to protect Haliburton so they could build schools, hospitals, prisons and Wal-marts and we would have an mini U.S. in each country. 



In Response to 2016:
I just saw a you-tube video of an interview with Dinesh D'souza the producer of 2016. I haven't seen the movie yet, but basically it explains that obama's motivation is anticollonialism. He sent Winston Churchill's bust back to the UK, because as a Kenyan he views Churchill as an opressive colonialist. Also interesting his his choice of who to support and who to try to remove in the "Arab Spring". Both Egypt and Libya were somewhat Western friendly (Libya over the past few years). He brought about the toppling of their regimes. Iran and Syria are both hostile to the US, in fact there was a larger uprising in Iran than Egypt. Yet he has done very little to assist the rebels. Basically, he wants to bring us down, so that we are no longer a superpower. He realizes that he stands little chance of telling voters of his intentions, so he's waiting for a second term when he can do his work.
Posted by Labrat64

Re: 2016

posted at August 17, 2012 1:21 PM EDT
Posts: 585
First: May 28, 2012
Last: May 15, 2013
I never said anything bad about Mormon's. I simply mentioned the producer was a fellow Mormon as is Romney. Where was HATE ever mentioned towards Mormon's ?n Response to Re: 2016:
I guess only left wing sources are acceptable to you. I intend to see the movie. based upon the reviews a lot of what he's done thus far makes sense. Basically he's been hostile to our allies, while befriending our enemies. Our currency is pretty much close to being worthless because he's wasting it on worthless projects and making more people dependent on the government. Thanks for showing your personal anti-Mormon bigotry-you who accuse other of being haters!!! BTW, you seem to ignore the years "Barry Sotero" spent in Indonesia attending madrasas and the years he spent under the tutalage of master bomber Bill ayers. But then again, you socialists always like to make things fit your version of reality.  Response to Re: 2016 :
Posted by Labrat64
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