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2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
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The 2012 Medicare debate is all about the baby boomers - doesn't matter which party has their way with it or some combined effort - it will begin to change. From the New Years Day newswire - Atlanta
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2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 1, 2012 7:21 PM EST
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The 2012 Medicare debate is all about the baby boomers - doesn't matter which party has their way with it or some combined effort - it will begin to change. From the New Years Day newswire - Atlanta Journal Constitution: 2012 Medicare Debate Is All About The Baby Boomers |
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Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 2, 2012 3:35 PM EST
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It doesn't matter if we allow it not to matter. It doesn't matter if you sit there and don't do anything about it. You have to be smart enough to recognlze who is really pushing to change Medicare and Social Security. We can't let our emotions get in the way of our better judgement. You have to remember we are the people who elect these lawmakers and we are the ones who can unelect them. The only way they will change Medicare is if we allow it. We have to show a UNITED FRONT. The sqeeky wheel gets the grease. If you write to your local newspaper, write to your lawmakers you can make a difference. There are more people than you think who want to keep Medicare as is. If you want a show of support from this message board, ask for it and I'm sure that people will respond when it comes to saving Medicare. We have to say "NO" to changes that will cut benefits to Medicare and Social Security. Do you disagree? In Response to 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare: The 2012 Medicare debate is all about the baby boomers - doesn't matter which party has their way with it or some combined effort - it will begin to change. From the New Years Day newswire - Atlanta Journal Constitution: 2012 Medicare Debate Is All About The Baby Boomers Posted by GailL1 |
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Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 2, 2012 8:24 PM EST
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In Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare: It doesn't matter if we allow it not to matter. It doesn't matter if you sit there and don't do anything about it. You have to be smart enough to recognlze who is really pushing to change Medicare and Social Security. We can't let our emotions get in the way of our better judgement. You have to remember we are the people who elect these lawmakers and we are the ones who can unelect them. The only way they will change Medicare is if we allow it. We have to show a UNITED FRONT. The sqeeky wheel gets the grease. If you write to your local newspaper, write to your lawmakers you can make a difference. There are more people than you think who want to keep Medicare as is. If you want a show of support from this message board, ask for it and I'm sure that people will respond when it comes to saving Medicare. We have to say "NO" to changes that will cut benefits to Medicare and Social Security. Do you disagree? In Response to 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare : Posted by creppelrm Did you read the article? Basically, it says, it doesn't matter what politicians are in office or which party they are in - Medicare has got to change because it is unsustainable at the current rate of growth. I agree with that fact - FACT, not Fiction. From the article: "Dial down the partisan rhetoric and surprising similarities emerge from competing policy prescriptions by President Barack Obama and leading Republicans such as Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan. Limit the overall growth of Medicare spending? It's in both approaches. Squeeze more money from upper-income retirees and some in the middle-class? Ditto. Raise the eligibility age? That too, if the deal is right." |
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Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 5, 2012 3:01 PM EST
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Medicare and Social Security need changes. Democrats believe on changes to keep them sustainable. Republicans want changes to do away with the programs. I believe on keeping these badly needed programs sustainable. Congress and the President are elected to represent the people. Now if no one believes the way I do, well I guess the Republicans will have their way. n Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare: In Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare : Did you read the article? Basically, it says, it doesn't matter what politicians are in office or which party they are in - Medicare has got to change because it is unsustainable at the current rate of growth. I agree with that fact - FACT, not Fiction. From the article: "Dial down the partisan rhetoric and surprising similarities emerge from competing policy prescriptions by President Barack Obama and leading Republicans such as Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan. Limit the overall growth of Medicare spending? It's in both approaches. Squeeze more money from upper-income retirees and some in the middle-class? Ditto. Raise the eligibility age? That too, if the deal is right." Posted by GailL1 |
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Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 5, 2012 4:40 PM EST
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In Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare: Medicare and Social Security need changes. Democrats believe on changes to keep them sustainable. Republicans want changes to do away with the programs. I believe on keeping these badly needed programs sustainable. Congress and the President are elected to represent the people. Now if no one believes the way I do, well I guess the Republicans will have their way. n Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare : Posted by creppelrm They both want the programs to stay around, just different approaches to the same problem. There are similarities to both plans. Republican do not want to do away with the programs. In fact, several Democrats are now supporting the new BI-PARTISAN plan reveiled in December, 2011 by The Chairman of the House of Representatives Budget Committee, Congressman Paul Ryan and co-sponsor Democratic Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon. Here are the highlights fo the plan: Reuters newswire: Republican Ryan backs new bipartisan Medicare Plan |
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Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 5, 2012 5:47 PM EST
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I believe Medicare has to change but is doesn,t have to be for the worse. That's where you and I and the rest of the good citizens of the U.S. come to play. As JanMB wrote they would like to make your believe it's unsustainable in reality it is sustainable. If a country like Turkey has better health care for their citizens then the U.S. Don't you think the most Richest and Powerful country in the world could at least out do Turkey? Regardless what you read or think, you have the power to change what these politicians want to do. You don't need them as much as they need you. n Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare: Medicare and Social Security need changes. Democrats believe on changes to keep them sustainable. Republicans want changes to do away with the programs. I believe on keeping these badly needed programs sustainable. Congress and the President are elected to represent the people. Now if no one believes the way I do, well I guess the Republicans will have their way. n Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare : Posted by creppelrm |
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Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 5, 2012 5:53 PM EST
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Most Democrats and the President oppose the Bi-Partisan Plan just like I and the rest of AARP members should. Once you let the lawmakers start privatizing the program, it will be the beginning of the end of Medicare. n Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare: In Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare : They both want the programs to stay around, just different approaches to the same problem. There are similarities to both plans. Republican do not want to do away with the programs. In fact, several Democrats are now supporting the new BI-PARTISAN plan reveiled in December, 2011 by The Chairman of the House of Representatives Budget Committee, Congressman Paul Ryan and co-sponsor Democratic Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon. Here are the highlights fo the plan: Reuters newswire: Republican Ryan backs new bipartisan Medicare Plan Posted by GailL1 |
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Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 5, 2012 6:10 PM EST
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In Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare: In Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare : They both want the programs to stay around, just different approaches to the same problem. There are similarities to both plans. Republican do not want to do away with the programs. In fact, several Democrats are now supporting the new BI-PARTISAN plan reveiled in December, 2011 by The Chairman of the House of Representatives Budget Committee, Congressman Paul Ryan and co-sponsor Democratic Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon. Here are the highlights fo the plan: Reuters newswire: Republican Ryan backs new bipartisan Medicare Plan Posted by GailL1 I am so glad to see such an optimist in these message boards. Social Security and Medicare have always been on the Republican Agenda since those programs were instituted. They have always tried to dismantle those programs for years. Not sustainable? there are many that don't think so. Specially Social Security, program that has been raided by our politicians for years. we all know that, and it is a fact. Medicare could stand some variables, but, the way we have been going and the way that our Esteemed Congress has acted in this Administration. nothing will be done. And if we seniors especially us seniors don't really become active and make sure that our Congressmen know, what would happen to them if they dare touch any of those programs. Perhaps we can save those programs. I am sure that by now, you are saying Oh, this is a liberal Democrat speaking. Guess what. I am a Republican of 40 years, that is becoming quite angry at the way that this Congress has behaved. and that will become very active if they try to do anything to these programs. |
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Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 5, 2012 8:03 PM EST
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First: November 27, 2011 Last: May 18, 2013 |
In Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare: Most Democrats and the President oppose the Bi-Partisan Plan just like I and the rest of AARP members should. Once you let the lawmakers start privatizing the program, it will be the beginning of the end of Medicare. n Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare : Posted by creppelrm So you don't like Medicare D? Do you not like Medicare Advantage Plans? Both are a combination of public and private - Medicare sets the concept and the rules and says what it will pay, then the private insurance companies design their plans based upon those factor and a profit margin. You pick the PRIVATE plan under each of these that is best for you (Med D insurer and a Med Adv insurer) or you stick with Traditional Medicare and don't opt for a Medicare D plan. Where is the problem? |
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Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare
posted at January 5, 2012 8:17 PM EST
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First: November 27, 2011 Last: May 18, 2013 |
In Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare: In Response to Re: 2012 The Year of Change for Medicare : I am so glad to see such an optimist in these message boards. Social Security and Medicare have always been on the Republican Agenda since those programs were instituted. They have always tried to dismantle those programs for years. Not sustainable? there are many that don't think so. Specially Social Security, program that has been raided by our politicians for years. we all know that, and it is a fact. Medicare could stand some variables, but, the way we have been going and the way that our Esteemed Congress has acted in this Administration. nothing will be done. And if we seniors especially us seniors don't really become active and make sure that our Congressmen know, what would happen to them if they dare touch any of those programs. Perhaps we can save those programs. I am sure that by now, you are saying Oh, this is a liberal Democrat speaking. Guess what. I am a Republican of 40 years, that is becoming quite angry at the way that this Congress has behaved. and that will become very active if they try to do anything to these programs. Posted by rker321 Reagan changed Social Security in 1983 to make it sustainable for all of us who are getting it today. The Social Security & Medicare Trustee Report came out in 2011 - Sure Social Security is not going to run out of money tomorrow but just as Reagan had to firm it up in the 1980's, we have to begin doing something soon to make it viable for those who will begin to draw it in 2030, 2040, 2050. I'm not even gonna go to the National Debt and all the Treasuries that the SS system owns in US debt - cause I surely hope that our finances will get straightened out but if they don't there is a lot of stuff we can kiss goodbye (Think Greece). Medicare & Medicaid has problems now and are only gonna get worse with the number of baby boomers coming on line. I keep up - I read, I study - federal changes as well as state changes. Here is the 2011 Trustee (Summary) Report from the Social Security Administration website. |
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