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Interesting Social Security Fact that Few People Know about!

posted at January 18, 2012 11:44 AM EST
Posts: 20
First: January 18, 2012
Last: August 19, 2012

Did you know we pay 500,000 foreigners social security benefits? Did you know that social security has a foreign office that works to provide foreign payments to new countries each year? India and Mexico are already in talks for their nationals that have worked in the U.S. to receive U.S. Social Security benefits. Most people are not aware of this and should be a major point of political discussion. Social Security has already "negotiated" with 22 countries for their nationals to get U.S. social security benefits. More are planned on the way. Take action to stop/reverse this, ask your congressman/senate representative to stop the payment to foreign nationals of OUR social security.

 It is known to very few people that Social Security has it's own international office and conducts it's own foreign international agreements so that foreigners that have worked in the U.S. can get U.S. social security benefits. Now there are some serious issues to consider, we are not only giving benefits to foreigners through the negotiated agreements conducted by SSA, we are giving them benefits even if they do not work the required 10 years (as all Americans must do in order to collect benefits). The agreements provide that the U.S. agency takes into account the years of work the foreigners have had in their country and combined them with the U.S. years of work to calculate a U.S. benefit. I wonder why this is not widely publicized and how can the agency negotiate these international agreements without public scrutiny? Our system is going bankrupt and they are working to give out more benefits to foreigners? Their work is ongoing and has not stopped despite the latest fiancial problems that have been plaguing our country. Please educate the American public EXPOSE this prevailing and catastrophic problem to our social security. Thank you for listening. Dorothy Grunewald

Re: Interesting Social Security Fact that Few People Know about!

posted at March 24, 2012 6:29 AM EDT
Posts: 18
First: March 24, 2012
Last: April 1, 2013
Dorothy,

Your facts are right but your conclusions are just simply wrong! Take me, for example. I am an American working in Japan. I have qualified for American social security in the future (I'm not 67 yet) because I have worked for over ten years in America. But here in Japan, they require their citizens to work for 25 years before they qualify for a Japanese social security benefit! Now I just got here in Japan six years ago. Without the USA-Japan Social Security Totalization Agreement, I would NEVER qualify for a Japanese social security benefit because I won't be working here for another 19 years. With me so far? That means my US social security benefit would always be calculated on only the years I worked in the USA. I would get nothing from the USA or Japan for all the years I worked in Japan (Oh yes, I am paying for Japanese SS!). Thanks to the USA-Japan SS Totalization Agreement, I WILL get a Japanese social security benefit for the few years I work in Japan. The Totalization agreement requires the Japanese to add all the years I worled in America to the years I work in Japan ONLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELEGIBILITY for a Jpanese SS benefit. The Japanese SS benefit will probably be small, but I only worked here for a few years. Why are the Japanese so generous? They aren't. They expect the USA to also honor the same Totalization agreement for Japanese who may have worled in the USA. It's only fair that these Japanese also get an American SS benefit if they worked in the USA, don't they? If they didn't work ten years in the USA, they would get nothing for all that social security they paid. Is that fair? Even better news for you: my American SS benefit is going to be partially reduced because I will be receiving a Japanese SS benefit! That means more money for retirees in the USA! Don't worry, the Japanese SS payment will more than make up for the American reduction in my American SS benefits. 

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