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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at August 24, 2012 11:38 AM EDT
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Posts: 373
First: October 22, 2011 Last: May 3, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations: Hatred distorts a man's vision. Go ahead and vote for Romney, but you best be in the top 1% because Romney will let the Republican Right Wing madness continue and inflict pain on the rest of us. Romney already agreed with the outrageous Ryan Republican budget for 2013, which makes massive cuts to the disabled, seniors, low and middle class including over $ 200 billion in cuts from the disabled and seniors healthcare. Ryan;s budget also cuts taxes for the wealthiest even more than Bush did. The Bush tax cuts were already the lowest in history, but no lets lower it even more on the struggling backs of our seniors and disabled. 10 years and counting with the biggest tax breaks in history for the wealthy, but no thats not enough. Even Ronald Reagan raised taxes on the wealthy 4 times, becuase it was the FAIR thing to do.. A Democracy is about having social and political equality. President Reagan had compassion for ALL Americans. Ronald Reagan would be sick to his stomach over this Republican party or should I say this Plutocratic party. n Response to Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accounble Care Organizations : Posted by mandm84 With Obama I see myself losing benefits. He gives us a tax break by reducing the social security tax which makes no sense since that is part of our future he is throwing away and is a good sign on how he manages money. He opens a health care bill by stealing from medicare which is partially funded from what we have been paying for years. So he is negatively impacting another program to help seniors in retirement. He claims he will fund his program by saving money in expenditures which is still medicare money in need of funding. If medicare has financial problems where is he getting all the money to fund his program. He is spending money with an open credit card with no limits, but it will come due and the USA will be in financial ruin owned by China who is buying our debt that social security cannot fund, |
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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at August 24, 2012 11:49 AM EDT
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Posts: 373
First: October 22, 2011 Last: May 3, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations: In Response to Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations : You are correct that our hospital systems are building extremely expensive facilities, and the price goes up as these buildings do. I am not sure that we can trust the government today to control costs while maintaining a good health care system. I do think, however, that the VA system is a good example of a working system, where care is affordable, and distributed fairly. Can't we use this system to build a better one? Only the wealthy with great insurance are able to afford this one. And, those benefits are quickly disappearing. Posted by louisie It is one reason I liked HMO's which doctors did not since they tried to control costs. Removing non-profit from some of these hospitals may return some fiscal responsibilty. I would like to see a comparison between some of the nonprofit hospitals and those that did not apply for that category. Is one more fiscally responsible than another. Possibly moving more hospitals into a profit category may control more costs. Additionally permission for the building projects needs to be better controlled. |
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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at August 24, 2012 2:38 PM EDT
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Posts: 373
First: October 22, 2011 Last: May 3, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations: While the Ryan-Romney big-ideas will not affect seniors, who will be dead by that time, their middle-aged children and young grandchildren would be scroood out of all of the benefits and protections that seniors are afforded today...essentially taking them back to the pre-New Deal era...and their children and grandkids will not thank them for this...especially when they realize how much the greedy rich gained in tax breaks by granmas and grampas neocon vote. In fact the entire thing about “chullen and grandchullen” is a lie especially designed by the mantra of people who do not give a flip about their offspring. It is a con sold to a poor class by people whose chullen and grandchullen have very little stake in the health of the country, whose offspring can just live off the wealth (stolen from ) given willingly to them by the American people. Posted by JANMB Under Obamacare our taxes will rise and health care will be diminished in quality. Obama shows no concern for the future children since they will be in so much debt, their life will be a matter of paying to big government. |
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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at August 27, 2012 9:47 PM EDT
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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at August 30, 2012 1:03 PM EDT
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Posts: 373
First: October 22, 2011 Last: May 3, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations: The quality of healthcare in this country is already diminished, but, most Americans are just not aware of that. We rank 37'th in the world in quality of healthcare now, and that is while we pay the most! Americans need to wake up and realize they have been supporting an overpriced, and non=capitalistic health care system designed to keep insurance companies doctors, and hospital administrators wealthy, Salaries in the rest of the country do not match those in health care. And, we do not know how muh we will pay until we are billed! Market forces are not even at work here! And now our businesses are refusing to offer health insurance, because it costs too much! They are right! It is out of control, and must be changed. Posted by georgieW723 Two areas totally out of control are education and medical. Much of the expense of the former is from educators with huge benefit packages and salary growth. The medical is again from the income of some and medicines and facility constructions out of control. These areas have to be controlled. One of the problems of insurance is nobody takes responsibility for controlling costs. These expenses have to be managed better than they have been. |
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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at October 21, 2012 7:07 PM EDT
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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at November 19, 2012 5:13 AM EST
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First: October 27, 2012 Last: December 5, 2012 |
the left claimed that Tea Party candidates would hurt the GOP in the midterm elections, because Americans wouldn't tolerate their extremist, far-right views. Then Republicans won a historic landslide, picking up 63 seats in the House, 6 seats in the Senate, 6 governorships, and 680 state legislature seats... For More Info :- Healthcare System Thanks. |
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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at November 28, 2012 1:54 PM EST
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Posts: 1457
First: August 27, 2012 Last: May 22, 2013 |
Health Care " MR. PRESIDENT, WILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GIVE UP YOUR CURRENT HEALTHCARE PROGRAM AND JOIN THE NEW 'UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE PROGRAM' THAT THE REST OF US WILL BE ON ????" THERE WAS A STONEY SILENCE AS OBAMA IGNORED THE QUESTION AND CHOSE NOT TO ANSWER IT !!! IN ADDITION, A NUMBER OF SENATORS WERE ASKED THE SAME QUESTION AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS, "WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT." AND THEY DID. IT WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY ON THE NEWS THAT THE "KENNEDY HEALTH CARE BILL" WAS WRITTEN INTO THE NEW HEALTH CARE REFORM INITIATIVE ENSURING THAT CONGRESS WILL BE 100% EXEMPT ! SO, THIS GREAT NEW HEALTH CARE PLAN THAT IS GOOD FOR YOU AND ME... IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR OBAMA, HIS FAMILY OR CONGRESS...?? WE (THE AMERICAN PUBLIC) NEED TO STOP THIS PROPOSED DEBACLE ASAP !!!! THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG !!!!! PERSONALLY, I CAN ONLY ACCEPT A UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL THAT EXTENDS TO EVERYONE... NOT JUST US LOWLY CITIZENS.... WHILE THE WASHINGTON "ELITE" KEEP RIGHT ON WITH THEIR GOLD-PLATED HEALTH CARE COVERAGES. If you don't pass this around, may you enjoy his Plan! |
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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at April 8, 2013 1:09 PM EDT
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Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations
posted at April 8, 2013 1:13 PM EDT
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Posts: 53
First: June 6, 2012 Last: May 9, 2013 |
In Response to Re: Medicare Health Care Reform - Accountable Care Organizations: "Accountable Care Organizations," (ACOs), key to cost savings in the health-reform law ??????????? A doctor at the hospital also tells FBN: "Health reform, though, was meant to increase access to health care. Instead, ACOs decrease access to care. It’s totally opposite of what the President said. ACOs also erode the doctor-patient bond." The federal government recently approved 106 new ACOs. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services says that as of last July, Medicare ACOs were serving 2.4 million people in 40 states and D.C. There is cold math behind health reform’s ACOs, now the new face of medicine. At about $550 billion, Medicare is the third largest budget item in the federal government, behind Social Security and defense, and is set to outstrip defense spending in about two years. But an avalanche of baby boomers retiring, a looming doctor shortage, and hospital bed shortages have given rise to ACOs. Doctors and medical workers warn that baby boomers will increasingly not be treated in hospitals, but in their homes or even over the phone, and not by doctors, but by physician assistants or nurses. To be sure, many patients would argue that hospitals are vast reservoirs of bacteria and viruses, and would rather avoid them. "But if you get an illness at home after you leave the hospital and really do need more hospital care, an ACO may bargain with you to not re-admit you," a doctor warns. Another element of health reform is driving doctors to join ACOs. Central to health reform are "electronic medical records systems, which must be put in place to process Medicare and Medicaid patients," a doctor explains. "But doctors can’t afford them, so they join an ACO," Dr. Jeff Goldsmith PhD, president of Health Futures Inc. and associate professor of Public Health Sciences at the University of Virginia, warned in a 2009 column about a dramatic culture shift in health care. "A rapidly increasing percentage of physicians, particularly primary care physicians, are now hospital employees," he wrote. The doctor added: "An entire generation of 80-hour-a-week baby-boomer physicians are retiring and being replaced by younger physicians who want to work 30 hours a week." Dr. Goldsmith also warned: "Hospitals will become ‘collections’ of physicians, not communities" with profit and loss statements and management "infrastructure." However, ACOs could soon be used for Medicaid, too. The 2010 health-reform bill authorizes a demonstration project that would launch pediatric ACOs within Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance programs. To date, funding is not yet available, sources and reports indicate."ACOs reward doctors and medical workers for providing less care to patients," says a Morristown Medical staffer. "They reward bad doctors and punish good doctors. If someone dies, it’s more cost effective and cheaper. If someone is readmitted for, say, a wound not healing, the hospital doesn’t get paid by Medicaid or Medicare, it gets fined. Wheeling and dealing is bad care for patients. It is the patient who will get screwed. An ACO is mechanical care, it turns doctors into 9-to-5 shift workers." A doctor at the hospital also tells FBN: "Health reform, though, was meant to increase access to health care. Instead, ACOs decrease access to care. It’s totally opposite of what the President wants. ACOs also erode the doctor-patient bond." The video surfaces as the federal government recently approved 106 new ACOs. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services says that as of last July, Medicare ACOs were serving 2.4 million people in 40 states and D.C. There is cold math behind health reform’s ACOs, now the new face of medicine. At about $550 billion, Medicare is the third largest budget item in the federal government, behind Social Security and defense, and is set to outstrip defense spending in about two years. But an avalanche of baby boomers retiring, a looming doctor shortage, and hospital bed shortages have given rise to ACOs. Doctors and medical workers warn that baby boomers will increasingly not be treated in hospitals, but in their homes or even over the phone, and not by doctors, but by physician assistants or nurses. To be sure, many patients would argue that hospitals are vast reservoirs of bacteria and viruses, and would rather avoid them. "But if you get an illness at home after you leave the hospital and really do need more hospital care, an ACO may bargain with you to not re-admit you," a doctor warns. Another element of health reform is driving doctors to join ACOs. Central to health reform are "electronic medical records systems, which must be put in place to process Medicare and Medicaid patients," a doctor explains. "But doctors can’t afford them, so they join an ACO," Dr. Jeff Goldsmith PhD, president of Health Futures Inc. and associate professor of Public Health Sciences at the University of Virginia, warned in a 2009 column about a dramatic culture shift in health care. "A rapidly increasing percentage of physicians, particularly primary care physicians, are now hospital employees," he wrote. The doctor added: "An entire generation of 80-hour-a-week baby-boomer physicians are retiring and being replaced by younger physicians who want to work 30 hours a week." Dr. Goldsmith also warned: "Hospitals will become ‘collections’ of physicians, not communities" with profit and loss statements and management "infrastructure." However, ACOs could soon be used for Medicaid, too. The 2010 health-reform bill authorizes a demonstration project that would launch pediatric ACOs within Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance programs. To date, funding is not yet available, sources and reports indicate. ACOs reward doctors and medical workers for providing less care to patients," says a Morristown Medical staffer. "They reward bad doctors and punish good doctors. If someone dies, it’s more cost effective and cheaper. If someone is readmitted for, say, a wound not healing, the hospital doesn’t get paid by Medicaid or Medicare, it gets fined. Wheeling and dealing is bad care for patients. It is the patient who will get screwed. An ACO is mechanical care, it turns doctors into 9-to-5 shift workers." A doctor at the hospital also tells FBN: "Health reform, though, was meant to increase access to health care. Instead, ACOs decrease access to care. It’s totally opposite of what the President wants. ACOs also erode the doctor-patient bond |