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Name: Robert
Location:
WELLESLEY, Massachusetts
United States
School:
Rutgers College
University of Pittsburgh
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U.S. Army
Johnson & Johnson
Sears, Roebuck and Co.
L.L. Bean
Wm. M. Mercer Consulting
Coopers & Lybrand Consulting
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Hometown(s):
Wilkes Barre, PA
Plainfield, NJ
Oak Park, IL
Brunswick, ME
Boston, MA
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"Well, I guess every form of refuge has its price".

Could That Be the Sound of Change?

 

 

 

The 1967 Age Discrimination Employment Act prohibited age-based discrimination in hiring and employment for workers age 40+.  Did it cause employers to eliminate age bias as effectively as laws regarding gender or racial bias? 

 

I don’t think so.  Several observers have said that age bias is the “last socially acceptable form of discrimination.”  But recent U.S. Supreme Court rulings are likely to change this thinking.

 

In fact, interpretation and enforcement of ADEA appears to have done little to influence workers’ opinions about the prevalence of age bias. More than 95% of workers believe age bias continues to be an obstacle to getting hired and staying employed. 

 

The evidence indicates that workers seldom succeed in their claims of age bias – if they ever even try to bring a claim or legal action.  Historically, workers had a pretty weak position if they believed they were the subject of age bias.  Legal costs could easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars. The EEOC and legal process could take many months and even years. An employee’s reputation could be damaged irreparably and fear of retaliation if the worker is bringing a claim against a current employer.

 

In those cases where employees have solid evidence of age bias, employers are inclined to settle outside of court and then bury the problem with a binding release of liability and a confidentiality agreement. This  conceals the scope and nature of their age bias problem.

 

In fairness, I want to say that I believe that there are increasing numbers of employers who are sincerely committed to defeating age bias.  These “age friendly” employers understand the value of the age 50+ worker and their obligations to comply with the ADEA.  These companies should be commended and recognized.

 

So what’s changed?  For starters,  a March 2005 Supreme Court ruling determined that it was sufficient that an employee could claim age-based “adverse impact” regardless of an employer’s intent.  For example, if a layoff disproportionately affected older workers, regardless of the employers’ method for identifying those to be terminated, age bias could be claimed. 

 

The only problem was that employers could readily establish that their action had “reasonable cause” other than age.  Frequently, employers claimed that their basis was cost reduction – and guess what?  A good effort by the Supreme Court, but it didn’t do the job.  Employers won virtually every legal action.  But let’s give the Court credit for moving in the correct direction in interpreting the ADEA.

 

Now here’s the surprise!  The 2007/2008 Supreme Court has rendered five decisions strengthening workers’ ADEA rights.  This is an extraordinary series of events particularly in light of vigorous opposition by employer groups and industry lobbyist. 

 

Could it be that the growing importance of the age 50+ population and workforce is getting some traction?  I follow age bias law and claims very closely and I am optimistic that we are experiencing a fundamental and favorable “sea change” in our society’s perceptions about aging.

 

On June 19, the U.S. Supreme Court determined that employers now have the burden to prove that they did not discriminate, and it is no longer the burden of workers to prove their age bias claim.  This seemingly simple distinction has major implications.  Placing the burden of proof on employers will make it easier for employees to bring age bias claims to court, and increase the probability they will prevail.

 

I don’t believe the news here is that it will be easier to win a claim.  To me, the best news is that the courts, and subsequently employers, will change their policies, practices and behaviors and take steps to insure their workplace is age neutral. My hope is, that as a result, age-based bias will begin to fade away. 

 

I also have a concern about unintended consequences.  I don’t deny that age bias and discrimination does occur.  And while I believe that age bias often results from management indifference or inattention, there are instances of deliberate disregard of the ADEA law and older workers' rights. 

 

My concern is that older workers may be too quick to yell “age bias.”  There really are instances where the older candidate is less qualified than the younger;  the older employee is not the best candidate for advancement or promotion and the older worker selected for layoff or termination is less skilled, productive and effective.  Whether an employee is 20 or 60, age should not be the deciding factor.  The ADEA is intended to prohibit discrimination based solely on age. 

 

There were times when I was selected for layoff or failed to get a job offer.  There was no way I was not the best candidate – just ask me!  The first thought in my mind (probably to soften the emotional blow) was that it must be age bias.  I learned that not everything that feels like age bias is truly age bias.

 

I hope that the new legal landscape will protect those subjected to age discrimination without triggering a flood of ill-justified claims. 

 

Do you think Supreme Court rulings will make a difference and do you believe employers and our society are ready to start writing the obituary for age bias?  I would like to hear your opinion.  Bob 

sthiem says:

Hi Carol (and Bob),
I so relate to your efforts and results, Carol. I am 62 and recently laid-off from a decent job making almost $40K in a small non-profit that lost funding. In 1999, at 53 yrs., I was laid off from my $53K/yr. job, after 15 yrs., and it took a long time to find this recent job...so I did many low paying jobs and used up ALL my retirement money in the following 7 years until I got my most recent job...then I was so relieved.

Now here I am again. I have wonderful letters of recommendation from 2 executives. I am "younger looking" and have great skills, am positive, energetic and passionate about life...and need a good job. My firends don't understand why I can't get a job...they know I am a great employee. I network!! I go to Michigan Works Unemployment. I check many website. I am excellent on the PC. Oh, by the way, I have been a Career Consultant! I have reduced my expenses to the minimum...can't afford medical insurance and some prescriptions. I have applied for many jobs, and some of them I am totally qualified for (although they only want 5 yr. experience and I have 10-15). I have had some interviews...and "nada", as you said.

Plan B is to draw Social Security and get a low paying job... and may have to sell my condo (Michigan has the highest Foreclosure rate...they are everywhere!)...and my recent job was as a Financial and Housing Counselor.

I pray and try to keep my faith high that God has a plan for me. Most of the time I am up and positive!!!

Bob; I am wondering how many people in Michigan, over 62, get good paying jobs over $40K????
Blessings to all! Susan T
Posted: July 22, 2008 6:54PM EDT
bobskladany says:

Carol,
It's clear you have experienced the frustration that can accompany any job search - not just of those of us over 50 (or 60). I'm pleased you found a job with health benefits but discouraged that you apear to have so much more capacity and knowledge that is untapped. Older workers do have the attributes you list - we're great candidates and workers. If you would like to share a bit more information confidentially about your background, I may be able to offer some suggestions on continuing your job search in today's "brave new world" of technology-based recruiting as well as offer specific job leads. Bob Skladany
Posted: July 3, 2008 2:37PM EDT
jc2gether63 says:

Hi Bob,
There are certain things you can't legislate, because you can't prove it. Last year while I was applying for positions at several banks, my resume mentioned that I worked at 2 banks, (one in PA and one in TX) and my last 12 yrs. of employment was working for an investment company, where I opened new accounts, gifts and contributions both cash and stock, handled domestic payroll, real estate taxes, etc., for multi-millionaire clients. I also furnished letters of recommendations from my atty./past supervisior listing my many attributes.

The response . . . nothing! I went to the local Wells Fargo Bank dressed appropriately and with all the information to apply. I was told to go home, apply on line, and when they call me back in for an interview, to bring the resume and letters of recommendations. Still . . . nada!

My husband sold insurance for many years and feels companies tend to shy away from older employees because it raises the group medical insurance rates. Additionally I feel they felt I wouldn't accept a lesser salary. They rather have a twenty-something they can pay at a starting salary and train. What they don't take into account, is seniors typically show-up on time, have a better work ethic, won't leave for prenancy and know what EXCELLENT customer service is.

After I was told I was overqualified 5 times by various companies, I was hired at a retail store. I must say they don't discreminate, as long as you don't have a criminal record, they will hire you.

I needed to return to the work force to get medical coverage. I am 62 and my husband is 64. I finally landed a job as a receptionist at a local hospital. Of course, I am earning less than half of what I was making at the investment company, but I live in a different area and the cost of living here is less too.

Our ace in the hole is the fact that the workforce in general is aging. Social security will still need our contributions . . . financial and otherwise. Carol
Posted: July 3, 2008 12:20AM EDT
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